>From the esteemed listowner of skeptic: ... Basically, I suspect anyone claiming Einstein on their side -- and irreligious people do this as often as people defending various religions -- is not paying as much attention to the context of Einstein's overall philosophy as they should. Frankly, other than a broadly Platonic approach and its associated quasi-mystical attitude, I see little definite about religion in Einstein's writings. ... From what I've seen, Einstein was a third-rate philosopher at best, with negligible insight, a boring style, and a point of view which would have been deservedly forgotten if he wasn't also a first-rate physicist. Anyone who claims Einstein the philosopher on their side, even if they accurately represent him, goes down in my esteem. Taner Edis While it is true that scientific results are entirely independent from religious or moral considerations, those individuals to whom we owe the great creative achievements of science were all of them imbued with the truly religious conviction that this universe of ours is something perfect and susceptible to the rational striving for knowledge. -- Albert Einstein (Ideas and Opinions, 1954) [EMAIL PROTECTED]