> 
> >Your fatalistic misery built on an entropy misconception
> >is not at all constructive; let's do ourselves in
> >because the Earth is doomed in x million years. 
> >- see Ron Ebert's response in an other message.
> 
> It's not "x million" Eva, the scientific concensus is about 24.
>


We were talking about the effects of entropy.
The real short-term collapse you have reason to worry about 
is nothing to do with entropy, it is due to a system that is
not able to coordinate people to save themselves.

My point is - it is unnecessary to introduce l'art pour l'art
scientific phrases to fog the real issue - we need urgently
a social/economical change that is able to motivate
people to work together; to distribute goods according to
human need, such goods as food, production capacities, energy,
contraception, IT and democracy. At the moment the most
creative human resources are wasted in military and
insane energy-gobbling production of superfluous goods,
because this satisfies market/profit needs in a totally
flawed chaotic and uncontrollable mechanism.


Eva

 
>      In 1992, both the US National Academy of Sciences and the
> Royal Society of London warned in a joint statement that science
> and technology may NOT be able to save us:
> 
>  "If current predictions of population growth prove accurate
>   and patterns of human activity on the planet remain
>   unchanged, science and technology may not be able to
>   prevent either irreversible degradation of the environment
>   or continued poverty for much of the world."
>  
>  "The future of our planet is in the balance. Sustainable
>   development can be achieved, but only if irreversible
>   degradation of the environment can be halted in time.
>   The next 30 years may be crucial." [ http://dieoff.com/page7.htm ]
> 
>      Never before in history had the two most prestigious
> groups of scientists in the world issued a joint statement!
> 
>      Now, six of these years are gone, and global devastation
> is still increasing exponentially while giant trans-national
> corporations relentlessly drive billions towards their deaths.
> 
>      Either you believe scientists or you don't.  I do.
> 
> Jay -- www.dieoff.com
> 
> 
> 

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