FW Clinto poverty tour - comments (fwd)

1999-07-15 Thread S. Lerner

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V O I C E S
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ON THE CLINTON POVERTY TOUR
" In a recent speech, Clinton compared himself to Franklin
Roosevelt. Both of them, he said, were "people who were
progressive, people who try to change things, people who keep
pushing the envelope.

"The difference is that Roosevelt was acting at the start of his
presidency in a time of economic crisis, and was almost entirely
willing to try any means that worked to achieve his ends. Clinton, by
contrast, is acting at the end of his presidency in a period almost
bereft of economic crisis, and will only try those means that pass
muster with the stock markets..."
-- Martin Kettle, Washington Diary, The Guardian

"It's positive, and long overdue, that Clinton is addressing these
issues, but to be saying that you want to deal with poverty while
you're calling welfare 'reform' a success is rather disingenuous.
While the US welfare rolls have dropped sharply, studies indicate
that many have simply joined the ranks of the working poor. They
now have jobs that are paying below poverty wages, without
benefits or affordable child care; moreover, states have been
'forgetting' to tell them that they are still eligible for Medicaid and
food stamps ..."
 -- Mimi Abramovitz, Professor at the School of Social Work at
Hunter College and author of "Regulating the Lives of Women"

"It is good that Clinton is going out and calling attention to these
issues, but some of the suggestions are flawed. If you build a base
of incomes and social and physical infrastructure, then business
activity develops, but if you throw business activity in a region where
that does not exist, then you have a sweatshop phenomenon. What
is needed is housing assistance, public services, money to improve
schools and the environment, and income support such as through
the earned income tax credit and a higher minimum wage."
 -- James K. Galbraith, professor at the LBJ School of Public
Affairs,

"If it wasn't for NAFTA, hundreds of thousands of jobs would not
have left the U.S., creating more poverty. If there were minimal
protections for migrant workers, then we wouldn't have the depth of
poverty that we have. If North Carolina, where I live, wasn't a 'right to
work' state, people could do collective bargaining and have the
guarantee of organized workplaces. As it is, they can be fired at will.
What you have now are people who are afraid of losing jobs, so
they don't push for better conditions and safety at their
workplaces..."
 -- George Friday, a member of the Grassroots Policy Project and
a low-income activist.

 "What the president's tour highlights is that there are really
important pockets of poverty in the country. Full employment is the
single most important thing in lifting people out of poverty, and the
president seems to understand that. But a rising tide lifts boats
unequally. While poverty is falling, income inequality remains at
post-war highs ... Using tax incentives just moves investment
around..."
-- Robert J. S. Ross, author of the forthcoming "Hearts Starve:
The New Sweatshops in Global Context"

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Re: FW Clinto poverty tour - comments (fwd)

1999-07-15 Thread Ray E. Harrell

Having grown up on the reservation which was the number one
toxic waste dump in America (Super-fund), where the houses
just dropped into cave-ins with people in them and where
the largest Indian nation West of the Mississippi River
and who had owned the state of Arkansas (correct pronunciation
Oogapah) was down to 200 people with four language speakers
left on the earth,

I have a feeling for Clinton or any President
visiting Pine Ridge.   Since the Oogapah are Southern Sioux,
what they called the River Sioux, it is appropriate that Clinton
raised and nurtured in the land of the ancient Oogapah should
visit the small country where their Northern relatives are still
held in a ghetto prison.   (Yes I can hear it now: "They don't
have to stay, they could move into the city ghetto and really be
alone."  Right!)

Pine Ridge is a place where Fetal Alcohol Syndrome is
rampant and where they die young or end up on death row
(as in California).   Unlike the Fetal Alcohol Syndromes
from the last generation in New York who now teaches in
the nations colleges and inhabit the board rooms of the
family corporations.

"Yes dahling,  Diana and Lional did drink themselves silly
while she was pregnant but only the poor children deserve
to be  labeled and subject to the 'rule of law.'   After all
why should we care when THOSE STATES in New England
have so MUCH incest.  They just ahre that way you know!"
(No, it doesn't make sense, why should it?)

So I was grateful that this pragmatist who was abused because
he didn't share the rigid orthodoxy of the Milton Friedman
Kulture Revolution.  A man who knew how to "tack" as they
say in sailing or "switchback" if you are a climber, finally had
the political power to visit Pine Ridge.   I do not consider him
to blame for the legal bills of his underlings or his playmate. I
do not consider their treatment moral and frankly blame those
who weat the label of cultural rigidity and bear the subpoenas.

The people who complain about the Sioux have never been
there and have on more than one occasion expressed to me
the opinion that they (the Sioux)  deserve what has happened
to them.  An opinion worthy of  Julius Streicher.  But that is
just my opinion.

REH




S. Lerner wrote:

 Excerpt from The Jobs Letter (with permission). So subscription info below

 V O I C E S
 --

 ON THE CLINTON POVERTY TOUR
 " In a recent speech, Clinton compared himself to Franklin
 Roosevelt. Both of them, he said, were "people who were
 progressive, people who try to change things, people who keep
 pushing the envelope.

 "The difference is that Roosevelt was acting at the start of his
 presidency in a time of economic crisis, and was almost entirely
 willing to try any means that worked to achieve his ends. Clinton, by
 contrast, is acting at the end of his presidency in a period almost
 bereft of economic crisis, and will only try those means that pass
 muster with the stock markets..."
 -- Martin Kettle, Washington Diary, The Guardian

 "It's positive, and long overdue, that Clinton is addressing these
 issues, but to be saying that you want to deal with poverty while
 you're calling welfare 'reform' a success is rather disingenuous.
 While the US welfare rolls have dropped sharply, studies indicate
 that many have simply joined the ranks of the working poor. They
 now have jobs that are paying below poverty wages, without
 benefits or affordable child care; moreover, states have been
 'forgetting' to tell them that they are still eligible for Medicaid and
 food stamps ..."
  -- Mimi Abramovitz, Professor at the School of Social Work at
 Hunter College and author of "Regulating the Lives of Women"

 "It is good that Clinton is going out and calling attention to these
 issues, but some of the suggestions are flawed. If you build a base
 of incomes and social and physical infrastructure, then business
 activity develops, but if you throw business activity in a region where
 that does not exist, then you have a sweatshop phenomenon. What
 is needed is housing assistance, public services, money to improve
 schools and the environment, and income support such as through
 the earned income tax credit and a higher minimum wage."
  -- James K. Galbraith, professor at the LBJ School of Public
 Affairs,

 "If it wasn't for NAFTA, hundreds of thousands of jobs would not
 have left the U.S., creating more poverty. If there were minimal
 protections for migrant workers, then we wouldn't have the depth of
 poverty that we have. If North Carolina, where I live, wasn't a 'right to
 work' state, people could do collective bargaining and have the
 guarantee of organized workplaces. As it is, they can be fired at will.
 What you have now are people who are afraid of losing jobs, so
 they don't push for better conditions and safety at their
 workplaces..."
  -- George Friday, a member of the Grassroots Policy Project and
 a low-income activist.

  "What the president's tour highlights is that