Re: an alternative to Lundemocracy

1999-01-31 Thread Durant

with both the lottery and this proposal you are basically suggesting
that the power should be wrangled from the hands of those now,
representing the interests of capitalists/multinationals.
I thought someone need to spell it out for you...
Good luck, I am with you all the way!

Eva

 I like Thomas' suggestion for governance by a parliament comprised of
 citizens chosen by lottery. It certainly eliminates a lot of distortions in
 the system such as political parties, campaign donations by corporations,
 etc.
 
 I frankly don't think it has a hope in hell of ever being realized. In the
 same spirit I will offer a proposal that I have long championed.
 
 Somewhere American social historian Studs Terkel tells the story of a
 university president who wondered what it was like to be really poor. When
 he got a sabbatical, he put his money in escrow and lived on the streets,
 sometimes sleeping on grates. He found, for instance, that it was none too
 easy for a homeless person without references to get even casual work as a
 dishwasher.
 
 Inspired by this story, I have proposed the Moccasin Rule for government.
 Walk a mile in the other person's moccasins. Before the government
 introduces any law, the minister responsible should live under the
 conditions it would impose on citizens.
 
 Before Ontario Social Services Minister Janet Ecker lowered the allowance to
 the homeless, she should have lived on the streets for six months on $180 a
 month.
 
 Before Canadian Finance Minister Paul Martin and his predecessor Michael
 Wilson tampered with unemployment insurance benefits, they should have lived
 for six months on the median benefit paid out to the unemployed.
 
 If our Minister of Labour contemplates changes to labour law, I would be
 only to happy to show him the ropes in the factory where I work.
 
 Live long and prosper
 
 Victor Milne  Pat Gottlieb
 
 FIGHT THE BASTARDS! An anti-neoconservative website
 at http://www3.sympatico.ca/pat-vic/pat-vic/
 
 LONESOME ACRES RIDING STABLE
 at http://www3.sympatico.ca/pat-vic/
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: an alternative to Lundemocracy

1999-01-31 Thread Jay Hanson

- Original Message -
From: Victor Milne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I like Thomas' suggestion for governance by a parliament comprised of
citizens chosen by lottery. It certainly eliminates a lot of distortions in

Inspired by this story, I have proposed the Moccasin Rule for government.

These are both really good ideas that should be incorporated into any
 new social system.

Jay





an alternative to Lundemocracy

1999-01-30 Thread Victor Milne

I like Thomas' suggestion for governance by a parliament comprised of
citizens chosen by lottery. It certainly eliminates a lot of distortions in
the system such as political parties, campaign donations by corporations,
etc.

I frankly don't think it has a hope in hell of ever being realized. In the
same spirit I will offer a proposal that I have long championed.

Somewhere American social historian Studs Terkel tells the story of a
university president who wondered what it was like to be really poor. When
he got a sabbatical, he put his money in escrow and lived on the streets,
sometimes sleeping on grates. He found, for instance, that it was none too
easy for a homeless person without references to get even casual work as a
dishwasher.

Inspired by this story, I have proposed the Moccasin Rule for government.
Walk a mile in the other person's moccasins. Before the government
introduces any law, the minister responsible should live under the
conditions it would impose on citizens.

Before Ontario Social Services Minister Janet Ecker lowered the allowance to
the homeless, she should have lived on the streets for six months on $180 a
month.

Before Canadian Finance Minister Paul Martin and his predecessor Michael
Wilson tampered with unemployment insurance benefits, they should have lived
for six months on the median benefit paid out to the unemployed.

If our Minister of Labour contemplates changes to labour law, I would be
only to happy to show him the ropes in the factory where I work.

Live long and prosper

Victor Milne  Pat Gottlieb

FIGHT THE BASTARDS! An anti-neoconservative website
at http://www3.sympatico.ca/pat-vic/pat-vic/

LONESOME ACRES RIDING STABLE
at http://www3.sympatico.ca/pat-vic/