Re: FVWM: xterm with FvwmIconBox on Fedora

2013-07-26 Thread lee
Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:

 On 18 July 2013 12:31, lee l...@yun.yagibdah.de wrote:
 Hi,

 when starting FvwmIconBox with fvwm and then starting xterm, output to the
 xterm window does not work, i. e. the window is blank until resized or
 when the workspace is switched.

 It's such a shame that you chose to use FvwmIconBox.  It's one of
 those modules which is dead and hasn't been touched by anyone in more
 years than I can recall.  Don't use it.  This is why we have
 FvwmIconMan as its replacement.

I didn't know that it has been replaced with FvwmIconMan.  Is
FvwmIconBox now deprecated and only available for compatibility?  There
wouldn't be anything to keep me from switching, I guess.

 When (re-)starting fvwm without the FvwmIconBox module, xterm works
 fine.  Please see [1] for a more detailed reference.

 You haven't told us what your FVWM version is---what is it?

It's 2.6.5 as is currently in Fedora 19:


,
| [~] rpm -qi fvwm
| Name: fvwm
| Version : 2.6.5
| Release : 4.fc19
| Architecture: x86_64
| Install Date: Sat 13 Jul 2013 13:20:15 CEST
| Group   : User Interface/X
| Size: 7255461
| License : GPLv2+
| Signature   : RSA/SHA256, Fri 15 Mar 2013 15:27:27 CET, Key ID 
07477e65fb4b18e6
| Source RPM  : fvwm-2.6.5-4.fc19.src.rpm
| Build Date  : Thu 14 Feb 2013 19:50:52 CET
| Build Host  : buildvm-17.phx2.fedoraproject.org
| Relocations : (not relocatable)
| Packager: Fedora Project
| Vendor  : Fedora Project
| URL : http://www.fvwm.org/
| Summary : Highly configurable multiple virtual desktop window manager
| Description :
| Fvwm is a window manager for X11. It is designed to
| minimize memory consumption, provide a 3D look to window frames,
| and implement a virtual desktop.
| [~] 
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  Note that
 I doubt this is FVWM's fault, since I can't reproduce your problem at
 all.  Also:

 X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)
   Major opcode of failed request:  18 (X_ChangeProperty)
   Resource id in failed request:  0x0

 Says that XTerm fucked up to me.  I'll entertain this for one minute.

It is very well possible that the problem is with xterm --- or somewhere
else entirely.

 If you can get the window to be blank, can you please attach the
 output from xprop, and then whilst it's still blank, run in another
 window xprop -spy and unblank the window?  Then put the log from
 that together with the other one and send it to me.

Sure, I'll send them to you.  Thank you for looking into this.


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Re: FVWM: fvwm.org domain renewal

2013-07-26 Thread Dan Espen
Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:

 Hi Jason,

 On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 12:26:22AM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
 Periodically folks have asked if they can donate to fvwm in some way.  I
 can't personally accept any donations and I would be shocked if anyone
 else involved with the project were in it for the money.  However, there
 is one fixed cost which I have generally borne myself but which anyone
 else is welcome to take care of: the domain registration.  (You do not
 generally need to own a domain to renew it; they'll take money from
 anyone.)

 Thanks for doing this; I've gone ahead and renewed this for the next three
 years.  fvwm.org will therefore expire on 2014-12-29.

I just did another 3 years.

-- 
Dan Espen



Re: FVWM: fvwm.org domain renewal

2013-07-26 Thread Thomas Adam
On 26 Jul 2013 16:17, Dan Espen des...@verizon.net wrote:

 Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:

  Hi Jason,
 
  On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 12:26:22AM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
  Periodically folks have asked if they can donate to fvwm in some way.
 I
  can't personally accept any donations and I would be shocked if anyone
  else involved with the project were in it for the money.  However,
there
  is one fixed cost which I have generally borne myself but which anyone
  else is welcome to take care of: the domain registration.  (You do not
  generally need to own a domain to renew it; they'll take money from
  anyone.)
 
  Thanks for doing this; I've gone ahead and renewed this for the next
three
  years.  fvwm.org will therefore expire on 2014-12-29.

 I just did another 3 years.

Had it expired already? Or can you renew at any time?

Thomas Adam


Re: FVWM: fvwm.org domain renewal

2013-07-26 Thread Dan Espen
Thomas Adam tho...@xteddy.org writes:

On 26 Jul 2013 16:17, Dan Espen des...@verizon.net wrote:

 Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes:

  Hi Jason,
 
  On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 12:26:22AM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III
wrote:
  Periodically folks have asked if they can donate to fvwm in some
way. ‚ I
  can't personally accept any donations and I would be shocked if
anyone
  else involved with the project were in it for the money.
‚ However, there
  is one fixed cost which I have generally borne myself but which
anyone
  else is welcome to take care of: the domain registration. ‚ (You
do not
  generally need to own a domain to renew it; they'll take money
from
  anyone.)
 
  Thanks for doing this; I've gone ahead and renewed this for the
next three
  years. ‚ fvwm.org will therefore expire on 2014-12-29.

 I just did another 3 years.

Had it expired already? Or can you renew at any time?

I think you can renew at any time.
Your mail above said it was going to expire next year December.
Actually I tried 3 years ago to extend to 6 but my credit card
company didn't let the charge through.  I called them this time.

-- 
Dan Espen