FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
Hi there! I tried mvwm. And i geht this [mvwm][ReadDecorFace]: <> couldn't load pixmap /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/themes/cooljakob/images-Left/title-activeup.xpm The xpm-picture is there and can be viewed with display or eog. In the original fvwm the decor is working. So... is there no xpm-support in mvwm? Or do i have to compile it in? lg jakob -- Jakobus Schürz Roseggergasse 37/21 1160 Wien tel: +43/699/107 66 126 mail: jakobus.schu...@gmail.com mail: ja...@xundeenergie.at http://xundeenergie.at http://verkehrsloesungen.wordpress.com/ http://cogitationum.wordpress.com
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:35:00PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > Hi there! > > I tried mvwm. And i geht this > [mvwm][ReadDecorFace]: <> couldn't load pixmap > /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/themes/cooljakob/images-Left/title-activeup.xpm > The xpm-picture is there and can be viewed with display or eog. In the > original fvwm the decor is working. > > So... is there no xpm-support in mvwm? Or do i have to compile it in? I removed it, yes. Convert the file to a PNG. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
Am 2014-10-13 12:39, schrieb Thomas Adam: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:35:00PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: >> Hi there! >> >> I tried mvwm. And i geht this >> [mvwm][ReadDecorFace]: <> couldn't load pixmap >> /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/themes/cooljakob/images-Left/title-activeup.xpm >> The xpm-picture is there and can be viewed with display or eog. In the >> original fvwm the decor is working. >> >> So... is there no xpm-support in mvwm? Or do i have to compile it in? > I removed it, yes. Convert the file to a PNG. > Ok... hmmm... that's not so good... there are many xpms in my decor-directories... :-/ Why did you remove it? jakob -- Jakobus Schürz Roseggergasse 37/21 1160 Wien tel: +43/699/107 66 126 mail: jakobus.schu...@gmail.com mail: ja...@xundeenergie.at http://xundeenergie.at http://verkehrsloesungen.wordpress.com/ http://cogitationum.wordpress.com
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
Am 2014-10-13 13:04, schrieb Jakobus Schürz: > Am 2014-10-13 12:39, schrieb Thomas Adam: >> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:35:00PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: >>> Hi there! >>> >>> I tried mvwm. And i geht this >>> [mvwm][ReadDecorFace]: <> couldn't load pixmap >>> /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/themes/cooljakob/images-Left/title-activeup.xpm >>> The xpm-picture is there and can be viewed with display or eog. In the >>> original fvwm the decor is working. >>> >>> So... is there no xpm-support in mvwm? Or do i have to compile it in? >> I removed it, yes. Convert the file to a PNG. >> > Ok... hmmm... that's not so good... there are many xpms in my > decor-directories... :-/ > > Why did you remove it? > > jakob > Ok, i changed it. Is there any documentation for the differences from Fvwm to Mvwm? mvwm is working fine here. :) jakob -- Jakobus Schürz Roseggergasse 37/21 1160 Wien tel: +43/699/107 66 126 mail: jakobus.schu...@gmail.com mail: ja...@xundeenergie.at http://xundeenergie.at http://verkehrsloesungen.wordpress.com/ http://cogitationum.wordpress.com
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 01:15:42PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > Am 2014-10-13 13:04, schrieb Jakobus Schürz: > > Am 2014-10-13 12:39, schrieb Thomas Adam: > >> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:35:00PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > >>> Hi there! > >>> > >>> I tried mvwm. And i geht this > >>> [mvwm][ReadDecorFace]: <> couldn't load pixmap > >>> /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/themes/cooljakob/images-Left/title-activeup.xpm > >>> The xpm-picture is there and can be viewed with display or eog. In the > >>> original fvwm the decor is working. > >>> > >>> So... is there no xpm-support in mvwm? Or do i have to compile it in? > >> I removed it, yes. Convert the file to a PNG. > >> > > Ok... hmmm... that's not so good... there are many xpms in my > > decor-directories... :-/ > > > > Why did you remove it? > > > > jakob > > > > Ok, i changed it. > > Is there any documentation for the differences from Fvwm to Mvwm? > mvwm is working fine here. :) No, and thus far, aside from some cleanups and deprecations, you shouldn't notice much difference. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 01:04:05PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > Am 2014-10-13 12:39, schrieb Thomas Adam: > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:35:00PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > >> Hi there! > >> > >> I tried mvwm. And i geht this > >> [mvwm][ReadDecorFace]: <> couldn't load pixmap > >> /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/themes/cooljakob/images-Left/title-activeup.xpm > >> The xpm-picture is there and can be viewed with display or eog. In the > >> original fvwm the decor is working. > >> > >> So... is there no xpm-support in mvwm? Or do i have to compile it in? > > I removed it, yes. Convert the file to a PNG. > > > > Ok... hmmm... that's not so good... there are many xpms in my > decor-directories... :-/ So? Convert them. > Why did you remove it? Because many different image formats to support is just code for code's sake. The trick is determining which one is best-suited to the things fvwm has to offer. In my mind, I may bring back SVGs, say. But XPMs and XBMs? No, I _really_ would rather not. Converting images where necessary is trivial to do. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
Am 2014-10-13 13:31, schrieb Thomas Adam: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 01:15:42PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: >> Am 2014-10-13 13:04, schrieb Jakobus Schürz: >>> Am 2014-10-13 12:39, schrieb Thomas Adam: On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:35:00PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > Hi there! > > I tried mvwm. And i geht this > [mvwm][ReadDecorFace]: <> couldn't load pixmap > /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/themes/cooljakob/images-Left/title-activeup.xpm > The xpm-picture is there and can be viewed with display or eog. In the > original fvwm the decor is working. > > So... is there no xpm-support in mvwm? Or do i have to compile it in? I removed it, yes. Convert the file to a PNG. >>> Ok... hmmm... that's not so good... there are many xpms in my >>> decor-directories... :-/ >>> >>> Why did you remove it? >>> >>> jakob >>> >> Ok, i changed it. >> >> Is there any documentation for the differences from Fvwm to Mvwm? >> mvwm is working fine here. :) > No, and thus far, aside from some cleanups and deprecations, you shouldn't > notice much difference. > There is a strange behaviour... I have this line in my config: Key Tab A MWindowlist In fvwm it works. In mvwm not. When Iceweasel is running, Alt+Tab kills mvwm. When i close Iceweasel, this key-combination opens the windowlist... Back to fvwm with the same config, Alt+Tab opens the windowlist in every case... Do you have an idea? jakob -- Jakobus Schürz Roseggergasse 37/21 1160 Wien tel: +43/699/107 66 126 mail: jakobus.schu...@gmail.com mail: ja...@xundeenergie.at http://xundeenergie.at http://verkehrsloesungen.wordpress.com/ http://cogitationum.wordpress.com
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
Am 2014-10-13 13:35, schrieb Thomas Adam: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 01:04:05PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: >> Am 2014-10-13 12:39, schrieb Thomas Adam: >>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:35:00PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: Hi there! I tried mvwm. And i geht this [mvwm][ReadDecorFace]: <> couldn't load pixmap /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/themes/cooljakob/images-Left/title-activeup.xpm The xpm-picture is there and can be viewed with display or eog. In the original fvwm the decor is working. So... is there no xpm-support in mvwm? Or do i have to compile it in? >>> I removed it, yes. Convert the file to a PNG. >>> >> Ok... hmmm... that's not so good... there are many xpms in my >> decor-directories... :-/ > So? Convert them. I did it! > >> Why did you remove it? > Because many different image formats to support is just code for code's > sake. The trick is determining which one is best-suited to the things fvwm > has to offer. In my mind, I may bring back SVGs, say. But XPMs and XBMs? > No, I _really_ would rather not. Converting images where necessary is > trivial to do. > Ok, i understand :) You wrote, you'll bring back SVGs... But they still work in my config with mvwm... jakob -- http://xundeenergie.at http://verkehrsloesungen.wordpress.com/ http://cogitationum.wordpress.com
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 04:45:20PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > Am 2014-10-13 13:31, schrieb Thomas Adam: > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 01:15:42PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > >> Am 2014-10-13 13:04, schrieb Jakobus Schürz: > >>> Am 2014-10-13 12:39, schrieb Thomas Adam: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:35:00PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > > Hi there! > > > > I tried mvwm. And i geht this > > [mvwm][ReadDecorFace]: <> couldn't load pixmap > > /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/themes/cooljakob/images-Left/title-activeup.xpm > > The xpm-picture is there and can be viewed with display or eog. In the > > original fvwm the decor is working. > > > > So... is there no xpm-support in mvwm? Or do i have to compile it in? > I removed it, yes. Convert the file to a PNG. > > >>> Ok... hmmm... that's not so good... there are many xpms in my > >>> decor-directories... :-/ > >>> > >>> Why did you remove it? > >>> > >>> jakob > >>> > >> Ok, i changed it. > >> > >> Is there any documentation for the differences from Fvwm to Mvwm? > >> mvwm is working fine here. :) > > No, and thus far, aside from some cleanups and deprecations, you shouldn't > > notice much difference. > > > > There is a strange behaviour... > I have this line in my config: > > Key Tab A MWindowlist > > In fvwm it works. > In mvwm not. When Iceweasel is running, Alt+Tab kills mvwm. When i close > Iceweasel, this key-combination opens the windowlist... Back to fvwm > with the same config, Alt+Tab opens the windowlist in every case... > > Do you have an idea? Yes, it's fixed; I just haven't updated the master branch to reflect that fix yet. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 04:47:06PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > Ok, i understand :) > You wrote, you'll bring back SVGs... But they still work in my config > with mvwm... No, there's no SVG support in mvwm. Why do you think that? See: 6d7bfdaf1dda48ef39efed7747da323538ca7863 -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
Hi Thomas, On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 01:35PM +0200 Thomas Adam wrote: > Because many different image formats to support is just code for code's > sake. The trick is determining which one is best-suited to the things fvwm > has to offer. In my mind, I may bring back SVGs, say. But XPMs and XBMs? > No, I _really_ would rather not. Converting images where necessary is > trivial to do. When would you bring back SVG support? Because then I can test mvwm with FNS. Could be interesting for parsing ^^ Best, Thomas
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
Am 2014-10-13 16:54, schrieb Thomas Adam: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 04:45:20PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: >> Am 2014-10-13 13:31, schrieb Thomas Adam: >>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 01:15:42PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: Am 2014-10-13 13:04, schrieb Jakobus Schürz: > Am 2014-10-13 12:39, schrieb Thomas Adam: >> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 12:35:00PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: >>> Hi there! >>> >>> I tried mvwm. And i geht this >>> [mvwm][ReadDecorFace]: <> couldn't load pixmap >>> /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/themes/cooljakob/images-Left/title-activeup.xpm >>> The xpm-picture is there and can be viewed with display or eog. In the >>> original fvwm the decor is working. >>> >>> So... is there no xpm-support in mvwm? Or do i have to compile it in? >> I removed it, yes. Convert the file to a PNG. >> > Ok... hmmm... that's not so good... there are many xpms in my > decor-directories... :-/ > > Why did you remove it? > > jakob > Ok, i changed it. Is there any documentation for the differences from Fvwm to Mvwm? mvwm is working fine here. :) >>> No, and thus far, aside from some cleanups and deprecations, you shouldn't >>> notice much difference. >>> >> There is a strange behaviour... >> I have this line in my config: >> >> Key Tab A MWindowlist >> >> In fvwm it works. >> In mvwm not. When Iceweasel is running, Alt+Tab kills mvwm. When i close >> Iceweasel, this key-combination opens the windowlist... Back to fvwm >> with the same config, Alt+Tab opens the windowlist in every case... >> >> Do you have an idea? > Yes, it's fixed; I just haven't updated the master branch to reflect that > fix yet. > > Today? I checked out a copy today (~5hours ago) and compiled it... the issue continues... jakob -- Jakobus Schürz Roseggergasse 37/21 1160 Wien tel: +43/699/107 66 126 mail: jakobus.schu...@gmail.com mail: ja...@xundeenergie.at http://xundeenergie.at http://verkehrsloesungen.wordpress.com/ http://cogitationum.wordpress.com
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
Am 2014-10-13 17:02, schrieb Thomas Adam: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 04:47:06PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: >> Ok, i understand :) >> You wrote, you'll bring back SVGs... But they still work in my config >> with mvwm... > No, there's no SVG support in mvwm. Why do you think that? > jakob@pluto[20:42]:~ $ ps aux|grep mvwm jakob25096 2.8 0.1 54596 7244 ?Ss 20:42 0:00 /usr/local/bin/mvwm -f /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/fv-init jakob25127 0.0 0.0 24332 1872 ?S20:42 0:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session mvwm-verve jakob26316 0.0 0.0 11564 1984 pts/0S+ 20:42 0:00 grep --color=auto mvwm jakob@pluto[20:42]:~ $ mvwm -V mvwm 2.6.6 (from git) compiled on Oct 13 2014 at 13:01:22 with support for: ReadLine, PNG, Shape, XShm, XRandR, XRender, XCursor, XFT, NLS mvwm comes with NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. You may redistribute copies of mvwm under the terms of the GNU General Public License. For more information about these matters, see the file named COPYING. The svg-Icons in FvwmButton are working. Even hovering over an changing the Icon-Size on hover... jakob -- Jakobus Schürz Roseggergasse 37/21 1160 Wien tel: +43/699/107 66 126 mail: jakobus.schu...@gmail.com mail: ja...@xundeenergie.at http://xundeenergie.at http://verkehrsloesungen.wordpress.com/ http://cogitationum.wordpress.com
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 05:32:51PM +0200, Thomas Funk wrote: > When would you bring back SVG support? Because then I can test mvwm > with FNS. Could be interesting for parsing ^^ Not anytime soon. -- Thomas Adam -- "Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong. But deep in my heart I know I am not." -- Morrissey ("Girl Least Likely To" -- off of Viva Hate.)
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 08:45:49PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > Am 2014-10-13 17:02, schrieb Thomas Adam: > > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 04:47:06PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > >> Ok, i understand :) > >> You wrote, you'll bring back SVGs... But they still work in my config > >> with mvwm... > > No, there's no SVG support in mvwm. Why do you think that? > > > jakob@pluto[20:42]:~ $ ps aux|grep mvwm > jakob25096 2.8 0.1 54596 7244 ?Ss 20:42 0:00 > /usr/local/bin/mvwm -f /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/fv-init > jakob25127 0.0 0.0 24332 1872 ?S20:42 0:00 > /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session mvwm-verve > jakob26316 0.0 0.0 11564 1984 pts/0S+ 20:42 0:00 grep > --color=auto mvwm > > jakob@pluto[20:42]:~ $ mvwm -V > mvwm 2.6.6 (from git) compiled on Oct 13 2014 at 13:01:22 > with support for: ReadLine, PNG, Shape, XShm, XRandR, XRender, XCursor, > XFT, NLS Then those images _aren't_ SVGs, they're something else. Again, there's no way to render SVG files in mvwm at the moment. -- Thomas Adam -- "Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong. But deep in my heart I know I am not." -- Morrissey ("Girl Least Likely To" -- off of Viva Hate.)
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
Am 2014-10-13 20:58, schrieb Thomas Adam: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 08:45:49PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: >> Am 2014-10-13 17:02, schrieb Thomas Adam: >>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 04:47:06PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: Ok, i understand :) You wrote, you'll bring back SVGs... But they still work in my config with mvwm... >>> No, there's no SVG support in mvwm. Why do you think that? >>> >> jakob@pluto[20:42]:~ $ ps aux|grep mvwm >> jakob25096 2.8 0.1 54596 7244 ?Ss 20:42 0:00 >> /usr/local/bin/mvwm -f /usr/bin/../share/fvwm-verve/fv-init >> jakob25127 0.0 0.0 24332 1872 ?S20:42 0:00 >> /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session mvwm-verve >> jakob26316 0.0 0.0 11564 1984 pts/0S+ 20:42 0:00 grep >> --color=auto mvwm >> >> jakob@pluto[20:42]:~ $ mvwm -V >> mvwm 2.6.6 (from git) compiled on Oct 13 2014 at 13:01:22 >> with support for: ReadLine, PNG, Shape, XShm, XRandR, XRender, XCursor, >> XFT, NLS > Then those images _aren't_ SVGs, they're something else. Again, there's > no way to render SVG files in mvwm at the moment. > This is one of this svg-pics in the FvwmButton. user@debian $ file /usr/share/fvwm-verve/icons/Flat-SVG/scalable/apps/file-manager.svg /usr/share/fvwm-verve/icons/Flat-SVG/scalable/apps/file-manager.svg: SVG Scalable Vector Graphics image The Code in the config is: SetEnv MIconSize 16x16 SetEnv AIconSize 18x18 #When Mouse Hovering over Button *FvwmShelf: (13x2 Frame 0, Title(Side) " Dateien", Left, Icon file-manager.svg:$[MIconSize], ActiveIcon file-manager.svg:$[AIconSize], \ Action(Mouse 1) "Function FvwmFiles", \ Action(Mouse 2) Menu select_FILES_popup, \ Action(Mouse 3) Menu default_FILES_popup, \ ) Then it is something really strange there... Because it works here on my machine running mvwm... I showed you the output of ps and the Version-output of mvwm... Strange thing... :) jakob -- Jakobus Schürz Roseggergasse 37/21 1160 Wien tel: +43/699/107 66 126 mail: jakobus.schu...@gmail.com mail: ja...@xundeenergie.at http://xundeenergie.at http://verkehrsloesungen.wordpress.com/ http://cogitationum.wordpress.com
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
Am 2014-10-13 20:39, schrieb Jakobus Schürz: > Am 2014-10-13 16:54, schrieb Thomas Adam: >> >> ou have an idea? >> Yes, it's fixed; I just haven't updated the master branch to reflect that >> fix yet. >> >> > Today? I checked out a copy today (~5hours ago) and compiled it... the > issue continues... Just to know... I download the zip from https://github.com/ThomasAdam/mvwm/archive/master.zip unpack it, change to the directory mvwm-master inside i run the script autogen.sh after that i run make and as root make install then i find the binary in /usr/local/bin/mvwm -- Jakobus Schürz Roseggergasse 37/21 1160 Wien tel: +43/699/107 66 126 mail: jakobus.schu...@gmail.com mail: ja...@xundeenergie.at http://xundeenergie.at http://verkehrsloesungen.wordpress.com/ http://cogitationum.wordpress.com
Re: FVWM: mvwm and xpm-support
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 11:00:17PM +0200, Jakobus Schürz wrote: > This is one of this svg-pics in the FvwmButton. Note that svg still works with "F"vwmButtons, and FvwmButtons should be happy to run under the "mvwm" code too, but "M"vwmButtons does not have svg support because it's been removed from the library. For now it should be possible to tun any of the fvwm modules with mvwm. Maybe that is the problem. Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt