Re: FVWM: Trouble with Sun Presenter Console

2009-03-20 Thread Sven Geggus
Dan Espen des...@verizon.net wrote:

 If you are more concerned with the decorations,
 you'll want:
 
 Style XXX NoTitle, BorderWidth 0, HandleWidth 0, NoHandles
 
 Use FvwmIdent to get the value for XXX.
 Use either the Name, Class, or Resource.

Unfortunately, there is no way to reliably distinguish normal OpenOffice
Windows and Presenter Console Windows. They all have more or less the Same
Name.

First Idea to make this work would be something like this:

Is there a Way to apply a Style only to the sticky Windows of a given Class?

The Perfect Setup would however not have them Sticky at all but something
like this:

If an Application with Resource VCLSalFrame (Openoffice) asks for making a
window sticky, then just do not decorate but do _not_ make it sticky :)

Sven

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Re: FVWM: Trouble with Sun Presenter Console

2009-03-20 Thread Dan Espen
Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de writes:

 Dan Espen des...@verizon.net wrote:

 If you are more concerned with the decorations,
 you'll want:
 
 Style XXX NoTitle, BorderWidth 0, HandleWidth 0, NoHandles
 
 Use FvwmIdent to get the value for XXX.
 Use either the Name, Class, or Resource.

 Unfortunately, there is no way to reliably distinguish normal OpenOffice
 Windows and Presenter Console Windows. They all have more or less the Same
 Name.

Bad form on the part of the developer.
Best to get back to him and have him at least give the window a unique name.

Also a dialog to control the sticky-ness should be required.
Applications using emwh are taking control of window attributes
out of the traditional X domain where behavior was controlled by
X-Resources.

Whey they do so, they should also provide the necessary dialogs to
control the behavior.



FVWM: Trouble with Sun Presenter Console

2009-03-16 Thread Sven Geggus
Hello,

I try to use the Sun presenter Console on a dual-head screen (diffenrent
content on beamer and TFT).

Unfortunately the Windows are decorated :(

Are there other types of Windows than Transient and normal ones? 

I ask this Question, because the decoration looks somewhat unusual as the
top window has 3 horizontal lines, which I don't have on my generic fvwm
Windows.

So how can I make the undecorated?

I'm using fvwm 2.5.26 from Debian lenny.

Sven


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Re: FVWM: Trouble with Sun Presenter Console

2009-03-16 Thread Sven Geggus
Dan Espen des...@verizon.net wrote:

 The horizontal lines indicate the window is sticky
 (shown on all desktops).
 
 This is probably done by the application with an emwh hint.

True! I was already wondering why switching to a different desktop is
impossible while in Presenter Mode. Is there a way to make all sticky 
windows decorationless? This would be a workaround to make it work   
for now.  

 You could start by looking in the application preferences to
 see if the hints can be controlled.

Well, there is at least nothing which is accessible be configuration
menu.

 Otherwise the Fvwm documentation can be used to find out how
 to override hints.

OK, I need to have a look.

Sven

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