Re: FVWM: $PATH in Test x
Le Tue, 1 May 2012 21:28:48 +0100, Thomas Adam a écrit : > On 1 May 2012 20:46, Jaimos F Skriletz > wrote: > > On 05/01/2012 12:53 PM, Dominique Michel wrote: > >> > >> A very common way to write $HOME in a path is with ~ > >> > >> With "PATH="~/bin:$PATH" into ~/.bash_profile, I get only the first > >> menu line on the screen. > >> With "PATH="/home/dom/bin:$PATH" into ~/.bash_profile, I get the 2 > >> menu lines on the screen. > >> > >> It look like the "Test (x xdradio) ..." work only in the first > >> case. Is it a bug in fvwm or somewhere else, or some obscure and > >> wanted stuff I am not aware of? > > > > It is an issue with the shell, and how it expands special > > characters. When the shell encounters an Env Variable or a special > > character like ~, *, !, etc it exapnds it based on the rules of the > > character. > > Not for the Test command, it isn't. This doesn't have anything to do > with the shell or the quoting problems you'd find there. And > actually, this is inherent in the environment FVWM is using for > itself, not in ~/.bash_profile, which unless sourced before FVWM > starts, might not have the same PATH set as interactive shells. On gentoo, ~/.bash_profile is sourced one time at login and $PATH is the same than for the interactive shells (if it is not defined differently into ~/.bashrc for the laters). After the login, I start fvwm with startx. So, it is sourced before fvwm starts, and as Jaimos pointed out, the ~ is not expanded by the shell. Anyway, I will stop to use ~ in my config and use $HOME instead. Thanks, Dominique
Re: FVWM: $PATH in Test x
On 1 May 2012 20:46, Jaimos F Skriletz wrote: > On 05/01/2012 12:53 PM, Dominique Michel wrote: >> >> A very common way to write $HOME in a path is with ~ >> >> With "PATH="~/bin:$PATH" into ~/.bash_profile, I get only the first >> menu line on the screen. >> With "PATH="/home/dom/bin:$PATH" into ~/.bash_profile, I get the 2 >> menu lines on the screen. >> >> It look like the "Test (x xdradio) ..." work only in the first case. >> Is it a bug in fvwm or somewhere else, or some obscure and wanted stuff >> I am not aware of? > > It is an issue with the shell, and how it expands special characters. When > the shell encounters an Env Variable or a special character like ~, *, !, > etc it exapnds it based on the rules of the character. Not for the Test command, it isn't. This doesn't have anything to do with the shell or the quoting problems you'd find there. And actually, this is inherent in the environment FVWM is using for itself, not in ~/.bash_profile, which unless sourced before FVWM starts, might not have the same PATH set as interactive shells. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: $PATH in Test x
On 05/01/2012 12:53 PM, Dominique Michel wrote: A very common way to write $HOME in a path is with ~ With "PATH="~/bin:$PATH" into ~/.bash_profile, I get only the first menu line on the screen. With "PATH="/home/dom/bin:$PATH" into ~/.bash_profile, I get the 2 menu lines on the screen. It look like the "Test (x xdradio) ..." work only in the first case. Is it a bug in fvwm or somewhere else, or some obscure and wanted stuff I am not aware of? It is an issue with the shell, and how it expands special characters. When the shell encounters an Env Variable or a special character like ~, *, !, etc it exapnds it based on the rules of the character. So when you have PATH="~/bin/:$PATH" because of the way the shell works it will expand $PATH correctly but it will not mess with the character "~" because it is inside quotes. What you should do it type this in a shell echo $PATH and you will see that your PATH still contains the ~ and it wasn't expanded to your home directally like it should have been. What this does is confuse things that use the PATH variable. Some may expand the ~ but my guess is most won't. It is preferable to do PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" to ensure everything gets expanded correctly by the shell. Another issue is putting a * or a ? in there would also cause issues because the shell is instructed to not expand things because of being between quotes. jaimos
