FVWM: migrating to Gnome 2.2 (Debian woody backport) but keeping FVWM (2.4.6)
Do any of you know what's needed to use FVWM 2.4.6 with Gnome 2.2? (I'm running the "woody" (stable) version of Debian GNU/Linux, with the Gnome 2.2 backport to woody.) The initial problem I'm having is that something in Gnome, apparently the file manager, is creating a full-screen windows named Desktop; when I lower some other window, it disappears because it gets lowered to behind the Desktop window. Do I want to configure FVWM so the Desktop window is in a lower layer, or is there a more general solution? Are there more things I want to fix? Thanks, Daniel -- Daniel Barclay [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian
stu wrote: Hi everyone Possibly this is the wrong forum for this question, but I'll risk asking it here first. Is there any reason why Debian unstable only provides fvwm 2.4.16, and not fvwm 2.5.7? debian unstable is called unstable because it's not stable yet, not because it includes unstable (development) versions of apps. Generally debian unstable includes latest stable versions of apps (or at least that's the goal, as far as I can say). erik -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Icon styles
> > Style * IconSize 32 32 > Style * IconBackgroundColorset grey60 > Style * IconBackgroundRelief 3 > Style * IconBackgroundPadding 0 > Style * IconTitleRelief 3 > > However, some applications seemt o ignore these styles, most notably, > java applications. Applications that supply there own icon window (as opposed to a pixmap or bitmap) override IconSize,IconBackground* and IconTitleRelief styles. I would like to implement IconSize for those icons too (I guess it could be done by swallowing the windows, like FvwmButtons does). So perhaps in 3.0... :-) //Marcus -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian
On 04 Sep 2003 19:36:44 +0200, stu wrote: > > Possibly this is the wrong forum for this question, but I'll risk asking > it here first. Is there any reason why Debian unstable only provides > fvwm 2.4.16, and not fvwm 2.5.7? Meantime, you may try these deb snapshots from a month ago, newer than 2.5.7: http://fvwm-themes.sf.net/tmp/snapshots/ I think the next version 2.5.8 will be released as source, rpm (as usual) and deb packages. Note however that these src, rpm and deb packages are clean without any distribution specific configs like "old Debian hooks". Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Icon styles
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 05:36:53PM +0200, Ian wrote: > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 06:11:15PM +0300, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > > On 04 Sep 2003 16:33:30 +0200, Ian wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 03:26:17PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > > > --- Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > > > One of the more notorious for this is "Netscape". I'd also be inclined > > > > to > > > > add: > > > > > > > > Style *IconOverride > > > > > > Sorry, that doesn't help :( > > > > Yes, neither this nor > > > > Style ** IconOverride > > > > does not work as one would expect. > > > > You should specify the style name for _every_ problematic window, > > i.e.: > > > > Style Eterm IconOverride, Icon norm/terminal.xpm > > Style Xpdf IconOverride, Icon norm/viewer.xpm > > This doesn't work for me either. > > Style JChat*" IconOverride, Icon nedit.xpm ^^^ Try it without the stray double quote. Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Icon styles
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 06:11:15PM +0300, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > On 04 Sep 2003 16:33:30 +0200, Ian wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 03:26:17PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > > --- Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > One of the more notorious for this is "Netscape". I'd also be inclined to > > > add: > > > > > > Style *IconOverride > > > > Sorry, that doesn't help :( > > Yes, neither this nor > > Style ** IconOverride > > does not work as one would expect. > > You should specify the style name for _every_ problematic window, > i.e.: > > Style Eterm IconOverride, Icon norm/terminal.xpm > Style Xpdf IconOverride, Icon norm/viewer.xpm This doesn't work for me either. Style JChat*" IconOverride, Icon nedit.xpm JChat is an in-house java chat app, and comes up with a really small icon, suitable for taskbasrs ala KDE and GNOME. (Some of my best friends like those things, I don't ;). But for *real* icons it's too small. Problem with this one is, it sets its icon at runtime or something... I'm gonna have to go take a look-see in that java source and see if I can fix it. Just tested another very reluctant java app, and it seems to compy now :) Thank you all. Ian. -- Occam's Razor: All other things being equal, the simplest solution is usually the correct one. (William of Occam, 14th century) Darwin's Blade: All other things being equal, the simplest solution is usually stupidity. (Darwin Minor in "Darwin's Blade" by Dan Simmons) -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: fvwm for Debian
* Sep 04 17:36 stu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi everyone Hi, there! > Possibly this is the wrong forum for this question, but I'll risk > asking it here first. Is there any reason why Debian unstable only > provides fvwm 2.4.16, and not fvwm 2.5.7? My guess is a lazy/inactive package maintainer. Mail and ask him: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ $ apt-cache show fvwm | grep '^Maintainer:' Maintainer: Alexander Kotelnikov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Johan Svedberg, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://johan.svedberg.pp.se/ -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Icon styles
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 06:11:15PM +0300, Mikhael Goikhman wrote: > On 04 Sep 2003 16:33:30 +0200, Ian wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 03:26:17PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > > > > > One of the more notorious for this is "Netscape". I'd also be inclined to > > > add: > > > > > > Style *IconOverride > > > > Sorry, that doesn't help :( > > Yes, neither this nor > > Style ** IconOverride > > does not work as one would expect. > > You should specify the style name for _every_ problematic window, > i.e.: > > Style Eterm IconOverride, Icon norm/terminal.xpm > Style Xpdf IconOverride, Icon norm/viewer.xpm > > I would be happy myself if at least "Style ** IconOverride" would do what > the name suggest, disable any application supplied icon for all apps. > This doesn't work for me either. Style JChat*" IconOverride, Icon nedit.xpm JChat is an in-house java chat app, and comes up with a really small icon, suitable for taskbasrs ala KDE and GNOME. (Some of my best friends like those things, I don't ;). But for *real* icons it's too small. Problem with this one is, it sets its icon at runtime or something... I'm gonna have to go take a look-see in that java source and see if I can fix it. Just tested another very reluctant java app, and it seems to compy now :) Any idea why the IconBackgroundRelief and IconBackgroundPadding are honoured by some icons and not by others? Does this have to do with a pixmap being transparent or not? Thank you all. Ian. (sorry if this got sent twice, from my end something seemed to have gone wrong with sending this message) -- Occam's Razor: All other things being equal, the simplest solution is usually the correct one. (William of Occam, 14th century) Darwin's Blade: All other things being equal, the simplest solution is usually stupidity. (Darwin Minor in "Darwin's Blade" by Dan Simmons) -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: fvwm for Debian
Hi everyone Possibly this is the wrong forum for this question, but I'll risk asking it here first. Is there any reason why Debian unstable only provides fvwm 2.4.16, and not fvwm 2.5.7? Thanks -- Stuart Logie Programmer UNIVERSAL COMPUTER SERVICES (PTY) LTD Tel : (011) 712 1371 Cell : 082 902 5632 Fax : (011) 339 3421 Internet : http://ucs.co.za Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "I am the Unconquerable Spirit." -- Poet Unknown Powered by Debian GNU/Linux - testing/unstable -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Icon styles
--- Mikhael Goikhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 04 Sep 2003 16:33:30 +0200, Ian wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 03:26:17PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > > --- Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > I am using fvwm 2.5.7 and am trying to make all icons of all > > > > applications look the same save for the pixmap. I have the > following > > > > in my .fvwmrc: > > > > > > > > Style * IconSize 32 32 > > > > Style * IconBackgroundColorset grey60 > > > > Style * IconBackgroundRelief 3 > > > > Style * IconBackgroundPadding 0 > > > > Style * IconTitleRelief 3 > > > > > > > > However, some applications seemt o ignore these styles, most > notably, > > > > java applications. > > > > > > One of the more notorious for this is "Netscape". I'd also be > inclined to > > > add: > > > > > > Style *IconOverride > > > > Sorry, that doesn't help :( > > Yes, neither this nor > > Style ** IconOverride > > does not work as one would expect. > > You should specify the style name for _every_ problematic window, > i.e.: > > Style Eterm IconOverride, Icon norm/terminal.xpm > Style Xpdf IconOverride, Icon norm/viewer.xpm > > I would be happy myself if at least "Style ** IconOverride" would do > what > the name suggest, disable any application supplied icon for all apps. Yes, perhaps that is one for the future. At least I was on the right lines as per the right style "IconOverride" :) -- Thomas Adam > Regards, > Mikhael. > -- > Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a > message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Thomas Adam "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- www.linuxgazette.com Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Icon styles
On 04 Sep 2003 16:33:30 +0200, Ian wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 03:26:17PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > --- Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > > > Hello, > > > > > I am using fvwm 2.5.7 and am trying to make all icons of all > > > applications look the same save for the pixmap. I have the following > > > in my .fvwmrc: > > > > > > Style * IconSize 32 32 > > > Style * IconBackgroundColorset grey60 > > > Style * IconBackgroundRelief 3 > > > Style * IconBackgroundPadding 0 > > > Style * IconTitleRelief 3 > > > > > > However, some applications seemt o ignore these styles, most notably, > > > java applications. > > > > One of the more notorious for this is "Netscape". I'd also be inclined to > > add: > > > > Style *IconOverride > > Sorry, that doesn't help :( Yes, neither this nor Style ** IconOverride does not work as one would expect. You should specify the style name for _every_ problematic window, i.e.: Style Eterm IconOverride, Icon norm/terminal.xpm Style Xpdf IconOverride, Icon norm/viewer.xpm I would be happy myself if at least "Style ** IconOverride" would do what the name suggest, disable any application supplied icon for all apps. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Icon styles
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 03:26:17PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > --- Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, > > Hello, > > > I am using fvwm 2.5.7 and am trying to make all icons of all > > applications look the same save for the pixmap. I have the following > > in my .fvwmrc: > > > > Style * IconSize 32 32 > > Style * IconBackgroundColorset grey60 > > Style * IconBackgroundRelief 3 > > Style * IconBackgroundPadding 0 > > Style * IconTitleRelief 3 > > > > However, some applications seemt o ignore these styles, most notably, > > java applications. > > One of the more notorious for this is "Netscape". I'd also be inclined to > add: > > Style *IconOverride Sorry, that doesn't help :( Thank you very much anyway. Ian. -- Occam's Razor: All other things being equal, the simplest solution is usually the correct one. (William of Occam, 14th century) Darwin's Blade: All other things being equal, the simplest solution is usually stupidity. (Darwin Minor in "Darwin's Blade" by Dan Simmons) pgpN2cLrPi9PL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FVWM: A question about 'affinity'
On 04 Sep 2003 13:15:14 +0200, Lars Segerlund wrote: > > How can I set different affinity for placements ( top, bottom, left > right and so on ) on a per application basis ? > > I have been looking at the doc's but I think I need a hint to start me > off. > > As an example of what I mean, I wan't my browser windows to the > top/left, pdf viewer bottom/left, and shells bottom/right, i.e. > different apps sorted differently ? To start, for example, pdf viewer at bottom left, run "xpdf -g +0-0". > ( ps. all this applies to the app when iconized ) This is different, iconic windows are fully managed by a window manager. This should do what you want: Style * IconBox 400x400+0+0, IconFill l t # default, browsers etc Style Xpdf IconBox 400x400+0-0, IconFill l b # pdf viewer Style XTerm IconBox 400x400-0-0, IconFill b r # terminals Style *term* IconBox 400x400-0-0, IconFill b r # --.-- Style MyGame IconBox 400x400-0+0, IconFill t r # something else There are other Icon* style options that you may add. Regards, Mikhael. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Icon styles
--- Ian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello all, Hello, > I am using fvwm 2.5.7 and am trying to make all icons of all > applications look the same save for the pixmap. I have the following > in my .fvwmrc: > > Style * IconSize 32 32 > Style * IconBackgroundColorset grey60 > Style * IconBackgroundRelief 3 > Style * IconBackgroundPadding 0 > Style * IconTitleRelief 3 > > However, some applications seemt o ignore these styles, most notably, > java applications. One of the more notorious for this is "Netscape". I'd also be inclined to add: Style *IconOverride > Another problem I have is when I start the thunderbird mail > application, the icon for it doesn't show up until I restart fvwm. The > Icon style for thunderbird is as follows: > > Style Inbox*Icon Mailbox-Summer.dir.xpm > > Does anybody have any idea on how to solve these problems? I'd be very > grateful, Not sure on the secondone. -- Thomas Adam = Thomas Adam "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- www.linuxgazette.com Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: A question about 'affinity'
How can I set different affinity for placements ( top, bottom, left right and so on ) on a per application basis ? I have been looking at the doc's but I think I need a hint to start me off. As an example of what I mean, I wan't my browser windows to the top/left, pdf viewer bottom/left, and shells bottom/right, i.e. different apps sorted differently ? ( ps. all this applies to the app when iconized ) / regrads, Lars Segerlund. -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FVWM: Icon styles
Hello all, I am using fvwm 2.5.7 and am trying to make all icons of all applications look the same save for the pixmap. I have the following in my .fvwmrc: Style * IconSize 32 32 Style * IconBackgroundColorset grey60 Style * IconBackgroundRelief 3 Style * IconBackgroundPadding 0 Style * IconTitleRelief 3 However, some applications seemt o ignore these styles, most notably, java applications. Another problem I have is when I start the thunderbird mail application, the icon for it doesn't show up until I restart fvwm. The Icon style for thunderbird is as follows: Style Inbox*Icon Mailbox-Summer.dir.xpm Does anybody have any idea on how to solve these problems? I'd be very grateful, thank you, Ian. -- Occam's Razor: All other things being equal, the simplest solution is usually the correct one. (William of Occam, 14th century) Darwin's Blade: All other things being equal, the simplest solution is usually stupidity. (Darwin Minor in "Darwin's Blade" by Dan Simmons) -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FVWM: Linux console-like desktop/page switching...
Eek, a very convolute if not clever way of doing it :) There is a utility I use (as a debian package) called "vdesk", which does what you want. HTH, -- Thomas Adam --- Elliot Sowadsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I use tr to do the desk calculation. > > AddToFunc GotoDesk_func > + I PipeRead `echo GotoDeskAndPage \`echo $[desk.n] | tr 01 10\` \`eval > expr $[pointer.wx] \\'*\\' 4 / $[w.width] \` 0 > > (triggered from a middle click into the pager) > Mouse 2 W N PointerWindow (FvwmPager) GotoDesk_func > > > < DestroyFunc GotoLeft > < AddToFunc GotoLeft > < + I PipeRead '\ > < maxdesk=2;\ > < maxpage=$(($[desk.pagesx]-1));\ > < if [ $[desk.n] -gt 0 ]; then\ > < prevdesk=$(($[desk.n]-1));\ > < else\ > < prevdesk=$maxdesk;\ > < fi;\ > < if [ $[page.nx] -eq 0 ]; then\ > < echo GotoDeskAndPage $prevdesk $maxpage 0;\ > < else\ > < echo GotoPage -1p 0p;\ > < fi' > < > < DestroyFunc GotoRight > < AddToFunc GotoRight > < + I PipeRead '\ > < maxdesk=2;\ > < maxpage=$(($[desk.pagesx]-1));\ > < if [ $[desk.n] -lt $maxdesk ]; then\ > < nextdesk=$(($[desk.n]+1));\ > < else\ > < nextdesk=0;\ > < fi;\ > < if [ $[page.nx] -eq $maxpage ]; then\ > < echo GotoDeskAndPage $nextdesk 0 0;\ > < else\ > < echo GotoPage +1p 0p;\ > < fi' > > < > -- > Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. > To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a > message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Thomas Adam "The Linux Weekend Mechanic" -- www.linuxgazette.com Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk -- Visit the official FVWM web page at http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
