Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] b753a0: Remove stale files
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 01:55:38AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 01:32:17AM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 01:28:17AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 04:23:47PM -0700, GitHub wrote: > > > > Branch: refs/heads/ta/install > > > > Home: https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm > > > > Commit: b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 > > > > > > > > https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 > > > > Author: Thomas Adam > > > > Date: 2016-08-11 (Thu, 11 Aug 2016) > > > > > > > > Changed paths: > > > > R ChangeLog > > > > R ChangeLog-pre-2.4 > > > > R ChangeLog-pre-2.6.6 > > > > R NEWS > > > > > > Hm, what's the logic behind removing the NEWS file? Is it > > > somewhere else now? > > > > It's mostly here: http://fvwm.org/features/ (because stuff hasn't changed), > > > and its successor will be release notes for the next version on Github > > anyway. > > Okay, and where is the source for the release notes? This needs > to be kept in the fvwm source tree. I don't see me writing up any > decent quality release notes, say, half a year after committing a > patch. This stuff needs to be written down when the work is done, > not at some indefinite time in the future. > > (I see fvwm more as a GNU style project rather than a Github style > project. Using features of git or Github is fine, but I don't > think we should give up the GNU project standards, where > applicable: https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.txt Specifically, it won't cost much to to stick to the following: 3.5 Conditional Compilation 4.4 Formatting Error Messages -> future work 4.5 Standards for Interfaces Generally 4.6 Standards for Graphical Interfaces 4.7 Standards for Command Line Interfaces 4.8 Standards for Dynamic Plug-in Interfaces 4.9 Table of Long Options 5.5 Portability between System Types 5.6 Portability between CPUs 5.7 Calling System Functions 5.8 Internationalization 5.9 Character Set 5.10 Quote Characters 6.7 The NEWS File 6.8 Change Logs -> now kept in Git 6.9 Man Pages 7.1 How Configuration Should Work 7.2 Makefile Conventions Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt
Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] b753a0: Remove stale files
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 01:55:38AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > The NEWS file has been a readable summary of user visible changes. > I don't see how this could be generated from commit information > and diffs in git. It's back. -- Thomas Adam
Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] b753a0: Remove stale files
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 01:32:17AM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 01:28:17AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 04:23:47PM -0700, GitHub wrote: > > > Branch: refs/heads/ta/install > > > Home: https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm > > > Commit: b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 > > > > > > https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 > > > Author: Thomas Adam > > > Date: 2016-08-11 (Thu, 11 Aug 2016) > > > > > > Changed paths: > > > R ChangeLog > > > R ChangeLog-pre-2.4 > > > R ChangeLog-pre-2.6.6 > > > R NEWS > > > > Hm, what's the logic behind removing the NEWS file? Is it > > somewhere else now? > > It's mostly here: http://fvwm.org/features/ (because stuff hasn't changed), > and its successor will be release notes for the next version on Github anyway. Okay, and where is the source for the release notes? This needs to be kept in the fvwm source tree. I don't see me writing up any decent quality release notes, say, half a year after committing a patch. This stuff needs to be written down when the work is done, not at some indefinite time in the future. (I see fvwm more as a GNU style project rather than a Github style project. Using features of git or Github is fine, but I don't think we should give up the GNU project standards, where applicable: https://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/standards.txt ) I don't care much about the other files (ChangeLogs and such), but fvwm should have a NEWS file like other GNU projects. > If people really want more detail they can look in git. The point of removing > these files is duplicating these things when git provides most of them is a > good thing. The NEWS file has been a readable summary of user visible changes. I don't see how this could be generated from commit information and diffs in git. Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt
Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] b753a0: Remove stale files
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 01:28:17AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 04:23:47PM -0700, GitHub wrote: > > Branch: refs/heads/ta/install > > Home: https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm > > Commit: b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 > > > > https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 > > Author: Thomas Adam > > Date: 2016-08-11 (Thu, 11 Aug 2016) > > > > Changed paths: > > R ChangeLog > > R ChangeLog-pre-2.4 > > R ChangeLog-pre-2.6.6 > > R NEWS > > Hm, what's the logic behind removing the NEWS file? Is it > somewhere else now? It's mostly here: http://fvwm.org/features/ (because stuff hasn't changed), and its successor will be release notes for the next version on Github anyway. If people really want more detail they can look in git. The point of removing these files is duplicating these things when git provides most of them is a good thing. -- Thomas Adam
Re: [fvwmorg/fvwm] b753a0: Remove stale files
On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 04:23:47PM -0700, GitHub wrote: > Branch: refs/heads/ta/install > Home: https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm > Commit: b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 > > https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 > Author: Thomas Adam > Date: 2016-08-11 (Thu, 11 Aug 2016) > > Changed paths: > R ChangeLog > R ChangeLog-pre-2.4 > R ChangeLog-pre-2.6.6 > R NEWS Hm, what's the logic behind removing the NEWS file? Is it somewhere else now? Ciao Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt
[fvwmorg/fvwm] b753a0: Remove stale files
Branch: refs/heads/ta/deprecate Home: https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm Commit: b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-11 (Thu, 11 Aug 2016) Changed paths: R ChangeLog R ChangeLog-pre-2.4 R ChangeLog-pre-2.6.6 R NEWS R ONEWS R utils/ChangeLog M utils/Makefile.am R utils/changelog.vim R utils/make_fvwmdist.sh R utils/quantize_pixmaps R utils/xselection.c Log Message: --- Remove stale files Commit: 65b9c68154599c9589cc13638e77219874066b12 https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/65b9c68154599c9589cc13638e77219874066b12 Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-12 (Fri, 12 Aug 2016) Changed paths: R INSTALL R INSTALL.fvwm A INSTALL.md M README.md M configure.ac Log Message: --- Add INSTALL.md Commit: ebb827f556e53b74ecca2ae4ee0ce5be5dcb8ad7 https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/ebb827f556e53b74ecca2ae4ee0ce5be5dcb8ad7 Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-12 (Fri, 12 Aug 2016) Changed paths: R .cvsignore M configure.ac Log Message: --- configure.ac: foreign/silent-rules * Set silent-rules to true by default * Set foreign directory to etc/ Commit: 6356f26aa268f16497550fbf80869fb7bc1a1f46 https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/6356f26aa268f16497550fbf80869fb7bc1a1f46 Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-12 (Fri, 12 Aug 2016) Changed paths: A .gitignore Log Message: --- .gitignore Commit: 979f62343c5e3adec1a20812001fe3fda7b42e2f https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/979f62343c5e3adec1a20812001fe3fda7b42e2f Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-12 (Fri, 12 Aug 2016) Changed paths: R bin/ChangeLog R doc/ChangeLog R doc/docbook-xml/ChangeLog R modules/ChangeLog R perllib/ChangeLog R po/ChangeLog R tests/ChangeLog Log Message: --- Remove ChangeLog files Commit: b94211e8ad4a94cdd5de9c6c602afb36fa08c9d6 https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/b94211e8ad4a94cdd5de9c6c602afb36fa08c9d6 Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-12 (Fri, 12 Aug 2016) Changed paths: R bin/.cvsignore R doc/.cvsignore R doc/commands/.cvsignore R doc/docbook-xml/.cvsignore R doc/docbook-xml/ent/.cvsignore R doc/docbook-xsl/.cvsignore R doc/docbook-xsl/common/.cvsignore R doc/docbook-xsl/highlighting/.cvsignore R doc/docbook-xsl/html/.cvsignore R doc/docbook-xsl/lib/.cvsignore R doc/docbook-xsl/manpages/.cvsignore R doc/docbook-xsl/profiling/.cvsignore R doc/fvwm/.cvsignore R doc/images/.cvsignore R doc/images/svg_rendering/.cvsignore R docs/.cvsignore R docs/old_info/TODO R docs/old_info/WindowStyle_proposal.txt R docs/old_info/color_combos R docs/old_info/error_codes R docs/old_info/fvwm.lsm.in R docs/old_info/m4_hacks R docs/old_info/todo-2.4 R docs/old_info/todo-2.6 R docs/old_info/todo-3.0 R docs/old_info/todo-vars R fvwm/.cvsignore R libs/.cvsignore R modules/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmAnimate/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmAuto/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmBacker/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmBanner/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmButtons/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmCommand/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmCommand/scripts/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmConsole/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmCpp/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmDebug/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmEvent/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmForm/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmIconMan/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmIdent/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmM4/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmPager/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmPerl/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmProxy/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmRearrange/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmScript/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmScript/Scripts/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmScript/Widgets/.cvsignore R modules/FvwmScroll/.cvsignore R perllib/.cvsignore R perllib/FVWM/.cvsignore R perllib/FVWM/Module/.cvsignore R perllib/FVWM/Tracker/.cvsignore R perllib/General/.cvsignore R po/.cvsignore R tests/.cvsignore R tests/hints/.cvsignore R utils/.cvsignore Log Message: --- Remove .cvsignore files Commit: a1d6bcbdcd0ffd12f9b2bd4e5ef582f46aefbc5c https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/a1d6bcbdcd0ffd12f9b2bd4e5ef582f46aefbc5c Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-12 (Fri, 12 Aug 2016) Changed paths: M docs/Makefile.am Log Message: --- docs: add PARSING.md to extra_dists Commit: 8624a1de690f35676f6ffdeeb5a8dbbab561a1e4 https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/8624a1de690f35676f6ffdeeb5a8dbbab561a1e4 Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-12 (Fri, 12 Aug 2016) Changed paths: M .gitignore Log Message: --- Update .gitignore Commit: 6702aac195e5d409f377997ded5469dd
[fvwmorg/fvwm] b753a0: Remove stale files
Branch: refs/heads/master Home: https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm Commit: b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-11 (Thu, 11 Aug 2016) Changed paths: R ChangeLog R ChangeLog-pre-2.4 R ChangeLog-pre-2.6.6 R NEWS R ONEWS R utils/ChangeLog M utils/Makefile.am R utils/changelog.vim R utils/make_fvwmdist.sh R utils/quantize_pixmaps R utils/xselection.c Log Message: --- Remove stale files Commit: 65b9c68154599c9589cc13638e77219874066b12 https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/65b9c68154599c9589cc13638e77219874066b12 Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-12 (Fri, 12 Aug 2016) Changed paths: R INSTALL R INSTALL.fvwm A INSTALL.md M README.md M configure.ac Log Message: --- Add INSTALL.md Commit: ebb827f556e53b74ecca2ae4ee0ce5be5dcb8ad7 https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/ebb827f556e53b74ecca2ae4ee0ce5be5dcb8ad7 Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-12 (Fri, 12 Aug 2016) Changed paths: R .cvsignore M configure.ac Log Message: --- configure.ac: foreign/silent-rules * Set silent-rules to true by default * Set foreign directory to etc/ Commit: 6356f26aa268f16497550fbf80869fb7bc1a1f46 https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/6356f26aa268f16497550fbf80869fb7bc1a1f46 Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-12 (Fri, 12 Aug 2016) Changed paths: A .gitignore Log Message: --- .gitignore Compare: https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/compare/4dd867c645bd...6356f26aa268
[fvwmorg/fvwm] b753a0: Remove stale files
Branch: refs/heads/ta/install Home: https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm Commit: b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/b753a06d2eb0325fd682563fcc127acbd6cf7813 Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-11 (Thu, 11 Aug 2016) Changed paths: R ChangeLog R ChangeLog-pre-2.4 R ChangeLog-pre-2.6.6 R NEWS R ONEWS R utils/ChangeLog M utils/Makefile.am R utils/changelog.vim R utils/make_fvwmdist.sh R utils/quantize_pixmaps R utils/xselection.c Log Message: --- Remove stale files Commit: d1d7b15da8331d95c866d59e2e40c0a1a6f5fd1c https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/commit/d1d7b15da8331d95c866d59e2e40c0a1a6f5fd1c Author: Thomas Adam Date: 2016-08-12 (Fri, 12 Aug 2016) Changed paths: R INSTALL R INSTALL.fvwm A INSTALL.md M README.md Log Message: --- Add INSTALL.md Compare: https://github.com/fvwmorg/fvwm/compare/b753a06d2eb0^...d1d7b15da833
