Re: FVWM: Forums and Wiki need new maintainers/homes
On 09/15/2013 01:23 PM, Thomas Adam wrote: On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 10:25:52PM +0100, Thomas Adam wrote: Hi all, Given my diminishing work on FVWM, I need to think about handing over the FVWM Forums [1] and the FVWM Wiki [2]. I cannot devote the time needed for their maintenance, nor do I want to act as a point of contact for them anymore. They're very low traffic sites, and the only real burden will be the PhpBB3 maintenance. Whomever wishes to take that on might want to consider upgrading that, and/or ditching it for something else entirely. Note that there are still a number of users who use that site. The wiki, by contrast, is less used. In fact, much of the content therein has come from myself. One final thing to note, I own the domain name fvwmforums.org and am willing to hand that over, and furthermore, if you want to take this on, you'll need to consider hosting of the wiki since I won't want to be using my domain for this in the future. Jaimos Skriletz is currently very kindly hosting the forums for me. I don't know if he's willing to continue that given I'm handing this over to someone else, so I'd consider hosting that yourself. He's been exemplary in his role as host and has done a great job at ensuring no real downtime as a result, so thanks Jaimos! Any questions, please ask. This thread seems to have decended in to a different subject altogether, so I want to bring it back to my original question. Those of you concerned about FVWM's continued development can ask in a different thread---I do not want nor care to discuss it here. I talked to Thomas and to keep the data alive I am taking the wiki and will now host it at fvwmforums.org/wiki and since I am already hosting the forums I just need to take control of the domain to get the responsibilities out of Thomas' hands. Thank you Thomas for all you have done for fvwm over the years and passing this data on as so it won't be lost to the community. I will keep an aloof eye and of course backups of the data just in case, but over all I will not be actively moderating the sites. I am able to host these sights for the foreseeable future and if anyone wants to step up and add to them or moderate them more actively, we can deal with this at that time. I expect the transition to happen sometime this week. jaimos
Re: FVWM: Forums and Wiki need new maintainers/homes
Hi Dan, On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 09:58:36PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote: Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes: Hi all, Given my diminishing work on FVWM, I need to think about handing over the FVWM Forums [1] and the FVWM Wiki [2]. I cannot devote the time needed for their maintenance, nor do I want to act as a point of contact for them anymore. From my point of view, I'd have no problem with closing them down. If you could direct users to the mailing lists, that would be a good thing. That'd be the simplest solution, yes. But I'm unclear how many users of FVWM and the forums would welcome that. I was always in favour of closing it down, but it exists _because_ it's what people wanetd, and still do, from what I can tell. They're certainly a lot busier than fvwm@ in terms of questions. The wiki is less important, but there's a lot of documentation which I feel should make it in to the man pages somewhere if someone is wanting to do that. So I can close them all down and keep the data kicking around, yes. But I am not happy pissing users off in the process, hence the request for a takeover. -- Thomas Adam
Re: FVWM: Forums and Wiki need new maintainers/homes
Hi all, Thomas Adam wrote: Hi Dan, On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 09:58:36PM -0400, Dan Espen wrote: Thomas Adam tho...@fvwm.org writes: Hi all, Given my diminishing work on FVWM, I need to think about handing over the FVWM Forums [1] and the FVWM Wiki [2]. I cannot devote the time needed for their maintenance, nor do I want to act as a point of contact for them anymore. From my point of view, I'd have no problem with closing them down. If you could direct users to the mailing lists, that would be a good thing. That'd be the simplest solution, yes. But I'm unclear how many users of FVWM and the forums would welcome that. I was always in favour of closing it down, but it exists _because_ it's what people wanetd, and still do, from what I can tell. They're certainly a lot busier than fvwm@ in terms of questions. It is not a good idea to close the forum because it is a very good place to get help and information. And from my point of view it signals that Fvwm is on the way to it's end ... I would take a moderators part if this is ok. Perhaps Bert aka theBlackDragon would help, too ... About the PhpBB3 maintenance I cannot help with it because I haven't any experience with that. The wiki is less important, but there's a lot of documentation which I feel should make it in to the man pages somewhere if someone is wanting to do that. The content could be moved into the documentation site of Fvwm. There're many parts which are very important about how Fvwm works, e.g. the start up. The only thing is that the wiki is very confusing and find things not that easy. Best, Thomas So I can close them all down and keep the data kicking around, yes. But I am not happy pissing users off in the process, hence the request for a takeover. -- Thomas Adam
