Re: Removing libstroke support?

2016-10-21 Thread Bert Geens
Dominik Vogt  writes:

> Does anybody really use libstroke support?  It's resonsible for
> quite some hardly readably code, and I suspect nobody uses it
> anymore.  If there's a need for mouse gesture or touchpad support,
> there must certainly be some other library around that does a
> better job.

I use it to launch applications and move around my desks/pages when
using the mouse (eg. while browsing the web). Nothing fancy.

Kind regards,

Bert Geens



Re: Removing libstroke support?

2016-10-18 Thread Viktor Griph
Den 18 okt. 2016 7:23 PM skrev "Dominik Vogt" :
>
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 06:29:59AM +0200, Viktor Griph wrote:
> > Den 17 okt. 2016 11:56 PM skrev "Dominik Vogt" :
> > >
> > > Does anybody really use libstroke support?
> >
> > I've been using it in my configs since I started using fvwm.
> >
> > > It's resonsible for
> > > quite some hardly readably code, and I suspect nobody uses it
> > > anymore.  If there's a need for mouse gesture or touchpad support,
> > > there must certainly be some other library around that does a
> > > better job.
> >
> > I haven't looked for alternatives, but it feels like the functionality
> > really should live in a separate application. It's not about managing
> > windows, but being able to execute commands on gestures.
>
> So, for what kind of actions do you use it?  Somthing window
> manager related like, say iconifying windows etc., or something
> else that could be done without the WM?
>
For the uses that I actually use is mainly launching applications, but I
have a few to launch or find a running instance and bring that window into
view. But that should still be possible with FvwmCommand. Apart from that I
have a few stokes defined for the title bar to resize, move and shade
windows, but I can't say I'm using them.

//Viktor


Re: Removing libstroke support?

2016-10-18 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 06:29:59AM +0200, Viktor Griph wrote:
> Den 17 okt. 2016 11:56 PM skrev "Dominik Vogt" :
> >
> > Does anybody really use libstroke support?
> 
> I've been using it in my configs since I started using fvwm.
> 
> > It's resonsible for
> > quite some hardly readably code, and I suspect nobody uses it
> > anymore.  If there's a need for mouse gesture or touchpad support,
> > there must certainly be some other library around that does a
> > better job.
> 
> I haven't looked for alternatives, but it feels like the functionality
> really should live in a separate application. It's not about managing
> windows, but being able to execute commands on gestures.

So, for what kind of actions do you use it?  Somthing window
manager related like, say iconifying windows etc., or something
else that could be done without the WM?

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

-- 

Dominik Vogt



Re: Removing libstroke support?

2016-10-18 Thread Peter G
Does anybody really use libstroke support?


I do. It's something i could easily live without... but I do like it on
occasion.




It's resonsible for
> quite some hardly readably code, and I suspect nobody uses it
> anymore.  If there's a need for mouse gesture or touchpad support,
> there must certainly be some other library around that does a
> better job.
>
> Opinions?
>
> Ciao
>
> Dominik ^_^  ^_^
>
> --
>
> Dominik Vogt
>
>


Re: Removing libstroke support?

2016-10-18 Thread Thomas Funk
"Thomas Adam"  wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 06:29:59AM +0200, Viktor Griph wrote:
> > Den 17 okt. 2016 11:56 PM skrev "Dominik Vogt" :
> > >
> > > Does anybody really use libstroke support?
> > 
> > I've been using it in my configs since I started using fvwm.
> > 
> > > It's resonsible for
> > > quite some hardly readably code, and I suspect nobody uses it
> > > anymore.  If there's a need for mouse gesture or touchpad support,
> > > there must certainly be some other library around that does a
> > > better job.
> > 
> > I haven't looked for alternatives, but it feels like the functionality
> > really should live in a separate application. It's not about managing
> > windows, but being able to execute commands on gestures.
> 
> Absolutely.  From looking at the libstroke homepage [0] it seems as though
> FVWM are the only real users of this library.  Heck, they even have FVWM
> listed as a reference program---including packaging up the FVWM sources for
> 2.0.45.  Historically interesting, but hardly relevant.
> 
> I am all in favour of writing a program to do this external to FVWM
> instead---heck, it could even be a module if necessary.  But I don't like it
> in the core of FVWM, and never have---the STROKE_CODE macro seems to really
> irritate me.

I've looked around but most of such projects are too old and/or not in the main
distributions. The only one looks promising is Easystroke [1] but stucks since
2014 ...

For multi gesture support synclient could be used as here [2] described. It has
been written in Perl so it could be interesting as an extension for perlib ...

Best,
- Thomas -

> -- Thomas Adam
> 
> [0]  http://etla.net/libstroke/

[1] https://github.com/thjaeger/easystroke/wiki
[2] https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-touchpad/#resources
> 
> 



Re: Removing libstroke support?

2016-10-18 Thread Thomas Adam
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 06:29:59AM +0200, Viktor Griph wrote:
> Den 17 okt. 2016 11:56 PM skrev "Dominik Vogt" :
> >
> > Does anybody really use libstroke support?
> 
> I've been using it in my configs since I started using fvwm.
> 
> > It's resonsible for
> > quite some hardly readably code, and I suspect nobody uses it
> > anymore.  If there's a need for mouse gesture or touchpad support,
> > there must certainly be some other library around that does a
> > better job.
> 
> I haven't looked for alternatives, but it feels like the functionality
> really should live in a separate application. It's not about managing
> windows, but being able to execute commands on gestures.

Absolutely.  From looking at the libstroke homepage [0] it seems as though
FVWM are the only real users of this library.  Heck, they even have FVWM
listed as a reference program---including packaging up the FVWM sources for
2.0.45.  Historically interesting, but hardly relevant.

I am all in favour of writing a program to do this external to FVWM
instead---heck, it could even be a module if necessary.  But I don't like it
in the core of FVWM, and never have---the STROKE_CODE macro seems to really
irritate me.

-- Thomas Adam

[0]  http://etla.net/libstroke/



Re: Removing libstroke support?

2016-10-17 Thread Viktor Griph
Den 17 okt. 2016 11:56 PM skrev "Dominik Vogt" :
>
> Does anybody really use libstroke support?

I've been using it in my configs since I started using fvwm.

> It's resonsible for
> quite some hardly readably code, and I suspect nobody uses it
> anymore.  If there's a need for mouse gesture or touchpad support,
> there must certainly be some other library around that does a
> better job.

I haven't looked for alternatives, but it feels like the functionality
really should live in a separate application. It's not about managing
windows, but being able to execute commands on gestures.

//Viktor


Removing libstroke support?

2016-10-17 Thread Dominik Vogt
Does anybody really use libstroke support?  It's resonsible for
quite some hardly readably code, and I suspect nobody uses it
anymore.  If there's a need for mouse gesture or touchpad support,
there must certainly be some other library around that does a
better job.

Opinions?

Ciao

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

-- 

Dominik Vogt