Re: Notification: incoming/788

2001-09-28 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 04:52:47PM -0500, fvwm-bug wrote:
 FVWM Bug Tracking notification
 
 new message incoming/788
 
 Full_Name: Suzanne Britton
 Version: 2.4.1
 CVS_Date: 
 OS: Redhat 6.2 / Linux 2.4.10
 X_Server: XFree86 4.1.0
 Submission from: (NULL) (216.58.96.66)
 
 
 Here's a weird one for you. WindowMaker has a nifty feature of grabbing
 the
 mouse when a meta key is pressed, so you can click anywhere in a window
 and then move/resize it. I've tried to duplicate this behavior in fvwm
 with the following keybindings:
 
 Mouse 1 A M Move
 Mouse 3 A M Resize
 
 They work...sometimes. The bindings seem to come and go sporadically, with
 no apparent rhyme or reason. Opening and closing windows, changing
 pages...
 almost any action can result in the mouse-grab behavior disappearing
 or returning. When it's gone, applications receive the mouse click as they
 normally would.
 
 I can still move/resize windows by alt-clicking on the root window, then
 selecting a window. But that brings up another oddity. If I alt-lclick on
 root, then release the key and mouse button, select and move a window--it
 won't move across page boundaries. If I leave the alt key pressed down,
 though, page switching works as usual (same thing when clicking on the
 window directly, I have to leave alt down while dragging--but this seems
 somehow more reasonable in that context).
 
 I hope someone can figure out this mystery! :-)

Thanks for the detailed report.  Can you please send your fvwm
configuration file to the fvwm-workers@fvwm.org mailing list so
that I can take a look myself?  I suspect that some of the focus
related settings play a role in this.

(Please do not answer to me directly - I will not be able to read
the mail at home then).

Bye

Dominik ^_^  ^_^

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Some Xinerama problems

2001-09-28 Thread Olivier Chapuis
Hello,
I make some Xinerama test recently using Sls 1x2 on
my poor 800x600 screen:

   ---
  |   |   |
  |   0   |   1   |
  |   |   |
   ---

The support seems really great! (BTW, does there exits
laptop with a double head video card?).

I've noted a few problems with menu position and IconBox

1. if WindowList is called without argument as well as
if a menu key binding of the form
   Key key Context Modifier Menu MyMenu _No_arg_
is activate, then the window list (or the menu) always
popup on screen 0.   

These problems has been already remarked on this list.
I've a very simple fix for this bug, but maybe, Dominik,
you prefer to fix it.

2. For testing let say we have the following binding:

   Mouse 1 A M Menu MenuFvwmRoot Rectangle [EMAIL PROTECTED] +0 +0

(the @c is not really important). So when I activate this
bindings the menu popup at [EMAIL PROTECTED] but if I am on screen
0 and I popup submenus (and subsubmenus) then the menu
go into screen 1 (so it is exactly as if I've no XineramaSls
support). This does not happen on screen 1 (but here the
left limit is my monitor).
Similarly if I use:

   Mouse 1 A M Menu MenuFvwmRoot Rectangle [EMAIL PROTECTED] +0 +0

(and MenuFvwmRoot is larger than 10p) the menu appear in between
screen 0 and 1 as it should appear on screen 0 (as it will do
with [EMAIL PROTECTED] on screen 1).

3. It seems natural for me that iconification happen on the
current screen, so I test IconBox with 

Style * IconBox [EMAIL PROTECTED], IconGrid 64 10, IconFill left bottom

In normal use this work fine. However, if the above command
is entered in a way or an other when the mouse cursor is on
screen 1 the icons on screen 0 go in a random location (in the
top of screen 0). Similar things happen with

All (CurrentScreen Iconic) RecaptureWindow

Also if I have a window which is almost all in screen 1
and if I Iconify it with a title button on screen 0, then
the icon go in a random location. More important, if
I have a window on screen 1 and if I Iconify it with IconMan
which is on screen 0, then again the icon go in a
bad location (in screen 0).

In the above, screen 0 and 1 are interchangeable.

I've not investigate problem 2.  3. I may take a look
if no other (more competent than me for these) have the
time to fix it (before 2.4.3?).

Olivier


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Re: Notification: incoming/786

2001-09-28 Thread Olivier Chapuis
On Thu, Sep 27, 2001 at 08:30:45AM -0400, Dan Espen wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  FVWM Bug Tracking notification
  new message incoming/786
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: fvwm 2.4.2: netscape fonts
  Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:55:06 -0500
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: fvwm 2.4.2: netscape fonts
  Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 23:55:06 -0500
  
  Full_Name: Neil Zanella
  Version: 2.4.2
  OS: Linux 2.4.2
  X_Server: XFree86 4.0.3
  Submission from: (NULL) (129.128.207.226)
  
  Hello,
  
  The following bug has to do with fvwm2 and AFAIK has long been present in
  fvwm2. When I run netscape and select Edit - Preferences - Appearance -
  Fonts I increase the fonts to their maximum size but the fonts only
  increase
  in size slightly, sometimes not at all.
  
  Why do I think this has to do with fvwm2? Well, I compared with KDE and
  found that when I run netscape under the latter, the fonts did get
  significantly bigger when I selected the largest font size. Personally
  I am not sure why this works this way. Perhaps it has to do with the
  way the window manager access the X Font server or perhaps there are
  some special netscape signals that need to be caught???
 
 I can assure you fvwm doesn't do anything with the systems fonts
 or the font server.
 
 KDE on the other hand is a desktop environment and does a lot
 more than manage windows.
 

Yes, KDE set by itself some Xresource. This can be enabled/
disabled in kcontrol Apply KDE colors and fonts to non KDE
application.
Olivier
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CVS dane fvwm-web: * screenshots/index.html: Screenshot from Christian Lyra.

2001-09-28 Thread FVWM CVS
CVSROOT:/home/cvs/fvwm
Module name:fvwm-web
Changes by: dane01/09/28 14:14:36

Modified files:
.  : ChangeLog 
screenshots: index.html 
Added files:
screenshots: Christian_Lyra-desk-1024x768.gif 
 Christian_Lyra-desk-thumbnail.gif 

Log message:
* screenshots/index.html: Screenshot from Christian Lyra.

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Re: ~/.fvwm2rc not the default

2001-09-28 Thread Mikhael Goikhman
On 27 Sep 2001 19:36:31 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Message summary for PR#789
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: ~/.fvwm2rc not the default
 Full_Name: Neil Zanella
 Version: 2.4.2

 When I start fvwm2 from a nondecorated window and do not specify a file
 name my $HOME/.fvwm2rc is not read. Instead, some other system.fvwm2rc
 by redhat is used.

Are you sure you start the correct fvwm2 executable?
There is no way a redhat config is used if you run a non-redhat fvwm2.

You may run fvwm2 -version and strace fvwm2 21 | grep open
to get more information about a version and config files read.

 The same applies to when I click restart from a menu.
 If I say fvwm2 -f $HOME/.fvwm2rc though, the file is found and used, but
 not upon restarting.

If you have Restart fvwm2 command in your menus, this is expected.
Just like the man page in 2.4.x versions says, replace all Restart fvwm2
in your fvwm2rc with simply Restart, so you restart the same WM.

 According to the manual $HOME/.fvwm2rc should be searched first.

Well, $HOME/.fvwm/.fvwm2rc is searched first.
Other than that I can't explain why some system.fvwm2rc is used in your
case (which one, BTW?), you didn't supply enough information.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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Java and fvwm

2001-09-28 Thread Sidik Isani
Hello -

  Turns out no patches were needed to get Java working reasonably well:

  I've found comments from others on the 'net claiming things like
  I went back and tried Java under MWM and it worked OK, but under
  FVWM I have problems with window size and positions.  Don't let
  this fool you into thinking that MWM has work-arounds for Java
  bugs, or that FVWM broken.  I think neither are the case, because
  Java's AWT is the one checking to see which window manager is
  running and it drops down to more standard behavior if it is MWM.

  So the fix for us is quite simple.  We already run with Emulate MWM,
  but we need to emulate one more feature of MWM: _MOTIF_WM_INFO.
  Motif applications can also change their behavior when MWM is
  running, so this could affect them too, but things seem fine so far.
  We can't separate the two, because both check for _MOTIF_WM_INFO on
  the root window.  The option Dan seems to have put in a while back,
  ModalityIsEvil, was the key to getting Java working better for us.
  All it does is cause FVWM to emulate MWM's _MOTIF_WM_INFO:

BugOpts ModalityIsEvil 1
Style AWT* UsePPosition,UseTransientPPosition

  You might try with and without ``Style AWT* BackingStore'' too,
  since Java draws everything as pixmaps, which can be quite slow.

Good luck,

- Sidik

P.S.: This is with Sun JDK 1.3.1 and fvwm 2.4.1 with some patches.
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