Re: [fw-general] Great work with 0.9
This is probably the fifteth or sixteth ;). I started with the framework last Summer and since then it has grown increasingly essential to my work. I won't be giving up Symfony for an exclusive stable of ZF applications but it's well in there and I'm able to place a lot of trust on the framework. I think trust is under-rated in PHP given the glut of frameworks and the ZF is a very cool standard which is accessible to even beginner coders. I know a lot of us can't wait to see other stuff enter the core post-1.0 so there's lots more to look forward to. I also look forward to contributing in my own way - I can't just take without giving something back. Pádraic Brady http://blog.astrumfutura.com http://www.patternsforphp.com - Original Message From: Teemu Välimäki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 6:55:26 PM Subject: [fw-general] Great work with 0.9 Thank you so much! What can I say, I'm developing several big applications which ZF and even with the API changes from 0.8 took a while to fix I applaud for them. Sure there are bugs and inconsistencies both in manual and the framework itself but it does not make it unusable. I understand that people want to be on the bleeding edge and so on but lets give the developers a break with a cookie or two. Just think about where you would be without ZF. Maybe writing filter for user input? Maybe some SQL? Maybe implementing your version of ACL and Auth? Yes, it can be fruitful to do those for personal experience but in a business world that's simply a no-no. Let's all take a break with a cookie :) Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367
Re: [fw-general] Great work with 0.9
On 19/03/07, ZegeeDotCom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree that the work is very good. But please keep in mind that the code you write is not for just yourselves. I think the documentation is more important than the fact of having good API. Thats all. I have used cakephp, symfony and zend. With zend 0.8 I was able to install and use it within 10 minutes. Now - I cannot get anything to work well with 0.9 release. So I had to revert back to 0.8 and I am unhappy because if the release 1.0 comes out - what good will it do me if I dont know how to upgrade due to lack of documentation. Fragmented docs are okey, but a document that combines the working blocks into a functional app would be a dream come true. I volunteered to have my app showcased with the code for display to anyone --> at least thats what I can do. The site I want to use it is already out there www.zegee.net ( its work in progress ) which will replace zegee.com I want to help, but I wasnt around since 0.2 release...so I need a working example of the current code to make any documentation. Hello ZegeeDotCom or whoever you are. You've been asked before, but I'll kindly repeat it: please stop spamming the list with your requests.. Personally I haven't contributed any code, but can assure you that nobody participating in this project is writing code "just for himself". Where are you falling from? Btw. - no, documentation is not more important than having a clear and solid API. Maybe the two things are equally crucial for a project's success, but who needs docs when everything is clear when you see the method's name for example, and it's params, etc. No offense, just calm down and let the rest of us say thank you to all the people working hard for the framework, and thus for us too.. -- Regards, Martin Martinov
Re: [fw-general] Great work with 0.9
I think ZF is wonderful. +1 +1. I've been following it since it was announced. I've written some php scripts in the past to make some desktop applications information available on the web but had not attempted a full blown application in php until now, and I'm very happy with the progress I've made to this point. It takes me a while to get the hang of things, but I've been able to get something out of each version. At first I struggle to get mod_rewrite working and the boot strap file. I got a 'hello world' type of app going with a view and the controller. Learned about the registry, then I got connected to my MySql database. Played with the pdf. Incorporated config with and .ini file. Move on to the rewrite controller and eventually to using Parms. Then read something about autoload and got that working. Added ACL and then Auth. Coded my own dynamic menu that utilizes Auth and ACL to determine what menu items should be provided to the user. I'm using plugins and cache among many other things I've forgot to mention. Its been a great experience. I'm glad I've been here as it evolved because I feel that I was exposed to much more then I would have been post version 1.0. I look forward to the future and hope to evolve enough to make contributions beyond a newbies view. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Great-work-with-0.9-tf3429024s16154.html#a9560027 Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [fw-general] Great work with 0.9
I agree that the work is very good. But please keep in mind that the code you write is not for just yourselves. I think the documentation is more important than the fact of having good API. Thats all. I have used cakephp, symfony and zend. With zend 0.8 I was able to install and use it within 10 minutes. Now - I cannot get anything to work well with 0.9 release. So I had to revert back to 0.8 and I am unhappy because if the release 1.0 comes out - what good will it do me if I dont know how to upgrade due to lack of documentation. Fragmented docs are okey, but a document that combines the working blocks into a functional app would be a dream come true. I volunteered to have my app showcased with the code for display to anyone --> at least thats what I can do. The site I want to use it is already out there www.zegee.net ( its work in progress ) which will replace zegee.com I want to help, but I wasnt around since 0.2 release...so I need a working example of the current code to make any documentation. Php (Absolom) wrote: > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > Wonderfull work, and really a pleasure to develop with :-) > > Aurélien. > > > I third that! > > > We looked around hard and wide for a decent framework to use for our > company > > and settled on Zend Framework 6 months ago. The progress since then > has been > > fabulous and has certainly validating my decision to go with > ZF. > > > Excellent work everyone :-) > > > Si > > > > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Great-work-with-0.9-tf3429024s16154.html#a9559148 Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [fw-general] Great work with 0.9
Three thumbs up from over here as well! I decided to take the bitter with the sweet months ago and develop new projects in the Zend-Framework, knowing I would probably have to revisit all projects multiple times due to refactoring. I have, but the design has always changed for the better. Thanks guys! Ramon http://www.future500.nl Php (Absolom) wrote: +1 Wonderfull work, and really a pleasure to develop with :-) Aurélien. > I third that! > We looked around hard and wide for a decent framework to use for our company > and settled on Zend Framework 6 months ago. The progress since then has been > fabulous and has certainly validating my decision to go with ZF. > Excellent work everyone :-) > Si
Re: [fw-general] Great work with 0.9
Just FYI, The 0.9.0 svn tag is missing: http://framework.zend.com/svn/framework/tag/ On 3/19/07, Simon R Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I third that! We looked around hard and wide for a decent framework to use for our company and settled on Zend Framework 6 months ago. The progress since then has been fabulous and has certainly validating my decision to go with ZF. Excellent work everyone :-) Si
Re: [fw-general] Great work with 0.9
+1 Wonderfull work, and really a pleasure to develop with :-) Aurélien. > I third that! > We looked around hard and wide for a decent framework to use for our company > and settled on Zend Framework 6 months ago. The progress since then has been > fabulous and has certainly validating my decision to go with ZF. > Excellent work everyone :-) > Si
RE: [fw-general] Great work with 0.9
I third that! We looked around hard and wide for a decent framework to use for our company and settled on Zend Framework 6 months ago. The progress since then has been fabulous and has certainly validating my decision to go with ZF. Excellent work everyone :-) Si
RE: [fw-general] Great work with 0.9
I second this statement. I've been working with ZF since 0.2 and I grow increasingly impressed with it! 0.9 is, obviously, the best release EVAH! -Original Message- From: Teemu Välimäki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 19, 2007 12:55 PM To: fw-general@lists.zend.com Subject: [fw-general] Great work with 0.9 Thank you so much! What can I say, I'm developing several big applications which ZF and even with the API changes from 0.8 took a while to fix I applaud for them. Sure there are bugs and inconsistencies both in manual and the framework itself but it does not make it unusable. I understand that people want to be on the bleeding edge and so on but lets give the developers a break with a cookie or two. Just think about where you would be without ZF. Maybe writing filter for user input? Maybe some SQL? Maybe implementing your version of ACL and Auth? Yes, it can be fruitful to do those for personal experience but in a business world that's simply a no-no. Let's all take a break with a cookie :)
[fw-general] Great work with 0.9
Thank you so much! What can I say, I'm developing several big applications which ZF and even with the API changes from 0.8 took a while to fix I applaud for them. Sure there are bugs and inconsistencies both in manual and the framework itself but it does not make it unusable. I understand that people want to be on the bleeding edge and so on but lets give the developers a break with a cookie or two. Just think about where you would be without ZF. Maybe writing filter for user input? Maybe some SQL? Maybe implementing your version of ACL and Auth? Yes, it can be fruitful to do those for personal experience but in a business world that's simply a no-no. Let's all take a break with a cookie :)
