Re: [fw-general] Project Zero - have anyone heard of it?

2007-07-01 Thread till

On 7/1/07, Pádraic Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


You just need to read through its licensing :).

Project Zero is licensed, not sold. The code available on projectzero.org is
non-warranted and not supported. The license restricts use to 4 processor
cores, does not allow commercial redistribution, and is provided for use on
up to 4 instances per physical location. Please refer to the license
agreement for further details.

Adhering those terms isn't as easy as it sounds. They're calling it a CDCD
process - community driven commercial development. How that works I don't
know - maybe further down the FAQ.


This translates to, "We get feedback for free, and then we sell it.".

Development 2.0. :-)

Till


Re: [fw-general] Project Zero - have anyone heard of it?

2007-07-01 Thread Pádraic Brady
You just need to read through its licensing :).

Project Zero is licensed, not sold. The code available on
projectzero.org is non-warranted and not supported. The license
restricts use to 4 processor cores, does not allow commercial
redistribution, and is provided for use on up to 4 instances per
physical location. Please refer to the license agreement for further
details.

Adhering those terms isn't as easy as it sounds. They're calling it a CDCD 
process - community driven commercial development. How that works I don't know 
- maybe further down the FAQ.

Also it's written primarily in Java (or Groovy - both end up at a JVM). It 
supports PHP as an additional scripting language using a PHP derived runtime 
(i.e. a PHP interpreter implemented in Java).

Doesn't sound like they are crossing ZF's bow ;). Will be interesting whether 
PZ offers any specific benefits over just using something like the ZF given PHP 
in general already has very nifty sets of libraries and classes for supporting 
web services. It does sound very much more of a push against SOA where some 
sort of heavy-weight corporate support is a definite plus for many folk.

Pádraic
 
Pádraic Brady
http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com


- Original Message 
From: Dinh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: fw-general@lists.zend.com
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 11:33:05 PM
Subject: [fw-general] Project Zero - have anyone heard of it?

Dear all,

IBM has started a project that supports building REST-like services using 
dynamic languages like PHP at 
https://www.projectzero.org/wiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome


Does IBM do it with some PHP experts support or they just ignore us? I think 
Zend Framework (SolarPHP, CakePHP...) should be a good reference for such kind 
of project, shouldn't it? I am afraid that they are trying to create another 
standard for PHP community


Dinh

-- 
Nobody in nowhere






 

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[fw-general] Project Zero - have anyone heard of it?

2007-06-30 Thread Dinh

Dear all,

IBM has started a project that supports building REST-like services using
dynamic languages like PHP at
https://www.projectzero.org/wiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome

Does IBM do it with some PHP experts support or they just ignore us? I think
Zend Framework (SolarPHP, CakePHP...) should be a good reference for such
kind of project, shouldn't it? I am afraid that they are trying to create
another standard for PHP community

Dinh

--
Nobody in nowhere