Re: AW: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with Chinese
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 -Original Message- From: Matthew Weier O'Phinney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (iconv is used already in a number of components -- XmlRpc, Lucene, Mime, and likely some others.) Also I found iconv used in Zend_Pdf, and a few of the web services. So yes, it is certainly fair to use it. We now have an appendix in the manual that lists ZF components that use each respective PHP extension (the the best of my ability to discover this information). Also thanks to Thomas for creating the reverse table, PHP extensions used by each respective ZF component. Bill Karwin Hmm JIRA is still down, so I could not look into the open issue regards to this discussion. You are talking about using getting string length by iconv or mb_string instead of using strlen() because it can't handle chinese (multibyte) characters. Both extensions are optional so why we can't check for loaded extension and decide what to use? Default: strlen iconv loaded:iconv_strlen mb_string loaded:mb_strlen Both ext loaded: Don't know if there are any advantages or disadvantages on any extension (iconv/mb_string) - -- Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFG7O1fd3s9o1H9MZ4RA48KAJ0csidhYmfVEKjBWkvDT6NGuvXYlgCbBpUU +pkuBK6Xin4GVMaHK/4wO5Q= =gOIZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
AW: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with Chinese
In my point of view this might be a bug in the Zend Framework. It would be
great if you can send a patch to the mailinglist, some zend guys might be able
to put the patch in the next realase.
Von: mikespook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. September 2007 04:00
An: Zend Framework General
Betreff: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with Chinese
Hi, all,
The method isValid in the class Zend_Validate_StringLength, is look like this
:
public function isValid($value)
{
$valueString = (string) $value;
$this-_setValue($valueString);
$length = strlen($valueString);
if ($length $this-_min) {
$this-_error(self::TOO_SHORT);
}
if (null !== $this-_max $this-_max $length) {
$this-_error(self::TOO_LONG);
}
if (count($this-_messages)) {
return false;
} else {
return true;
}
}
the line: $length = strlen($valueString); get $valueString's lenght.But it
didn't work with Chinese or any other mutil-char languages( eg. CKJ ).
so, what about using iconv_strlen or mb_strlen instead of the function strlen?
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Re: AW: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with Chinese
I don't think you can class it as a bug. The problem is that both extensions
are optional (except for Windows where iconv had to be built in) so it's
difficult to rely on them for something as common as string length validation.
Until PHP6 pops up, I'd suggest creating a subclass which substitutes
mb_strlen() and ensure ext/mbstring is available for your environment. Maybe it
could be suggested someone add an optional Zend_Validate_MultiByteStringLength
or similar which can mediate across iconv/mbstring and accept an optional
encoding parameter?
Pádraic Brady
http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com
- Original Message
From: Leo Büttiker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mikespook [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Zend Framework General
fw-general@lists.zend.com; Maarten Manders | tilllate AG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:44:51 AM
Subject: AW: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with
Chinese
In my point of view this might be a bug in the Zend Framework. It would be
great if you can send a patch to the mailinglist, some zend guys might be able
to put the patch in the next realase.
Von: mikespook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. September 2007 04:00
An: Zend Framework General
Betreff: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with Chinese
Hi, all,
The method isValid in the class Zend_Validate_StringLength, is look like this
:
public function isValid($value)
{
$valueString = (string) $value;
$this-_setValue($valueString);
$length = strlen($valueString);
if ($length $this-_min) {
$this-_error(self::TOO_SHORT);
}
if (null !== $this-_max $this-_max $length) {
$this-_error(self::TOO_LONG);
}
if (count($this-_messages)) {
return false;
} else {
return true;
}
}
the line: $length = strlen($valueString); get $valueString's lenght.But it
didn't work with Chinese or any other mutil-char languages( eg. CKJ ).
so, what about using iconv_strlen or mb_strlen instead of the function strlen?
--
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Re: AW: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with Chinese
As far as I know, the Zend_Search_Lucene has already used the iconv
extension.
So, I don't think using the iconv ext will be a problem for us.
在07-9-13，Pádraic Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] 写道：
I don't think you can class it as a bug. The problem is that both
extensions are optional (except for Windows where iconv had to be built in)
so it's difficult to rely on them for something as common as string length
validation.
Until PHP6 pops up, I'd suggest creating a subclass which substitutes
mb_strlen() and ensure ext/mbstring is available for your environment. Maybe
it could be suggested someone add an optional
Zend_Validate_MultiByteStringLength or similar which can mediate across
iconv/mbstring and accept an optional encoding parameter?
Pádraic Brady
http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com
- Original Message
From: Leo Büttiker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mikespook [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Zend Framework General
fw-general@lists.zend.com; Maarten Manders | tilllate AG
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:44:51 AM
Subject: AW: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used
with Chinese
In my point of view this might be a bug in the Zend Framework. It would be
great if you can send a patch to the mailinglist, some zend guys might be
able to put the patch in the next realase.
Von: mikespook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. September 2007 04:00
An: Zend Framework General
Betreff: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with
Chinese
Hi, all,
The method isValid in the class Zend_Validate_StringLength, is look like
this :
public function isValid($value)
{
$valueString = (string) $value;
$this-_setValue($valueString);
$length = strlen($valueString);
if ($length $this-_min) {
$this-_error(self::TOO_SHORT);
}
if (null !== $this-_max $this-_max $length) {
$this-_error(self::TOO_LONG);
}
if (count($this-_messages)) {
return false;
} else {
return true;
}
}
the line: $length = strlen($valueString); get $valueString's lenght.But it
didn't work with Chinese or any other mutil-char languages( eg. CKJ ).
so, what about using iconv_strlen or mb_strlen instead of the function
strlen?
--
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Re: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with Chinese
According to the wiki iconv is enabled by default/included in all
supported PHP versions. It's also used in Zend_Mime_Decode.
nico
Pádraic Brady wrote:
I'll check iconv's status if no one else replies - looks like the
Wiki and Jira are currently offline but if iconv is an acceptable
standard extension as a dependency then maybe such a validator
could be proposed as an improvement.
P
Pádraic Brady
http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com
- Original Message
From: mikespook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pádraic Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Leo Büttiker [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Zend Framework
General fw-general@lists.zend.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:25:35 AM
Subject: Re: AW: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't
be used with Chinese
As far as I know, the Zend_Search_Lucene has already used the iconv
extension.
So, I don't think using the iconv ext will be a problem for us.
在07-9-13，Pádraic Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
写道：
I don't think you can class it as a bug. The problem is that both
extensions are optional (except for Windows where iconv had to be
built in) so it's difficult to rely on them for something as common
as string length validation.
Until PHP6 pops up, I'd suggest creating a subclass which
substitutes mb_strlen() and ensure ext/mbstring is available for
your environment. Maybe it could be suggested someone add an
optional Zend_Validate_MultiByteStringLength or similar which can
mediate across iconv/mbstring and accept an optional encoding
parameter?
Pádraic Brady
http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com
- Original Message
From: Leo Büttiker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mikespook
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Zend Framework General
fw-general@lists.zend.com; Maarten Manders | tilllate AG
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:44:51 AM
Subject: AW: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be
used with Chinese
In my point of view this might be a bug in the Zend Framework. It
would be great if you can send a patch to the mailinglist, some
zend guys might be able to put the patch in the next realase.
Von: mikespook [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. September 2007 04:00
An: Zend Framework General
Betreff: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used
with Chinese
Hi, all,
The method isValid in the class Zend_Validate_StringLength, is
look like this :
public function isValid($value)
{
$valueString = (string) $value;
$this-_setValue($valueString);
$length = strlen($valueString);
if ($length $this-_min)
{
$this-_error(self::TOO_SHORT);
}
if (null !== $this-_max $this-_max $length) {
$this-_error(self::TOO_LONG);
}
if (count($this-_messages)) {
return false;
} else {
return true;
}
}
the line: $length = strlen($valueString); get $valueString's
lenght.But it didn't work with Chinese or
any other mutil-char languages( eg. CKJ ).
so, what about using iconv_strlen or mb_strlen instead of the
function strlen?
--
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Re: AW: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with Chinese
-- Pádraic Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
(on Thursday, 13 September 2007, 02:45 AM -0700):
I'll check iconv's status if no one else replies
The rule of thumb is that if the extension is enabled in a vanilla build
of PHP, it's fair game (that, or if the functionality clearly notes that
it requires a specific extension -- e.g., one of the Zend_Db adapters).
iconv falls into the vanilla PHP category, while mbstring does not.
(iconv is used already in a number of components -- XmlRpc, Lucene,
Mime, and likely some others.)
- Original Message
From: mikespook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: P draic Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Leo B ttiker [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Zend Framework General
fw-general@lists.zend.com
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 10:25:35 AM
Subject: Re: AW: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used
with
Chinese
As far as I know, the Zend_Search_Lucene has already used the iconv extension.
So, I don't think using the iconv ext will be a problem for us.
07-9-13 P draic Brady [EMAIL PROTECTED] д
I don't think you can class it as a bug. The problem is that both
extensions are optional (except for Windows where iconv had to be built
in)
so it's difficult to rely on them for something as common as string length
validation.
Until PHP6 pops up, I'd suggest creating a subclass which substitutes
mb_strlen() and ensure ext/mbstring is available for your environment.
Maybe it could be suggested someone add an optional
Zend_Validate_MultiByteStringLength or similar which can mediate across
iconv/mbstring and accept an optional encoding parameter?
P draic Brady
http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com
- Original Message
From: Leo B ttiker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: mikespook [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Zend Framework General
fw-general@lists.zend.com; Maarten Manders | tilllate AG
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 7:44:51 AM
Subject: AW: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used
with
Chinese
In my point of view this might be a bug in the Zend Framework. It would be
great if you can send a patch to the mailinglist, some zend guys might be
able to put the patch in the next realase.
Von: mikespook [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 13. September 2007 04:00
An: Zend Framework General
Betreff: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with
Chinese
Hi, all,
The method isValid in the class Zend_Validate_StringLength, is look like
this :
public function isValid($value)
{
$valueString = (string) $value;
$this-_setValue($valueString);
$length = strlen($valueString);
if ($length $this-_min) {
$this-_error(self::TOO_SHORT);
}
if (null !== $this-_max $this-_max $length) {
$this-_error(self::TOO_LONG);
}
if (count($this-_messages)) {
return false;
} else {
return true;
}
}
the line: $length = strlen($valueString); get $valueString's lenght.But it
didn't work with Chinese or any other mutil-char languages( eg. CKJ ).
so, what about using iconv_strlen or mb_strlen instead of the function
strlen?
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RE: AW: [fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with Chinese
-Original Message- From: Matthew Weier O'Phinney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (iconv is used already in a number of components -- XmlRpc, Lucene, Mime, and likely some others.) Also I found iconv used in Zend_Pdf, and a few of the web services. So yes, it is certainly fair to use it. We now have an appendix in the manual that lists ZF components that use each respective PHP extension (the the best of my ability to discover this information). Also thanks to Thomas for creating the reverse table, PHP extensions used by each respective ZF component. Bill Karwin
[fw-general] The validation of StringLength can't be used with Chinese
Hi, all,
The method isValid in the class Zend_Validate_StringLength, is look like
this :
public function isValid($value)
{
$valueString = (string) $value;
$this-_setValue($valueString);
$length = strlen($valueString);
if ($length $this-_min) {
$this-_error(self::TOO_SHORT);
}
if (null !== $this-_max $this-_max $length) {
$this-_error(self::TOO_LONG);
}
if (count($this-_messages)) {
return false;
} else {
return true;
}
}
the line: $length = strlen($valueString); get $valueString's lenght.But it
didn't work with Chinese or any other mutil-char languages( eg. CKJ ).
so, what about using iconv_strlen or mb_strlen instead of the function
strlen?
--
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