Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
Here's the problem: http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.view.html#zend.view.introduction.view Note the long tags. It's no wonder people are getting confused. I agree with Matthew's justification and also Jordan's concerns. It just needs to be made crystal clear and consistent also consistent in the code examples I guess. Regards, Mark On Thursday 20 March 2008 21:11, Jordan Moore wrote: > My fear is that new PHP developers will see short open tags in the ZF > documentation, think, "Sweet! That makes things easier!", and start > using them in all areas of their applications (not just views). > > I don't see it being a big problem, as long as... > > 1. There's decent explanations in the documentation when/why short > open tags are used. > 2. The stream wrapper can be disabled, so I don't take a performance > hit when I upgrade to 1.5.x. :) > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- Jordan Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > > > (on Thursday, 20 March 2008, 01:05 PM -0700): > > > I just verified that "short_open_tag" is disabled in the > > > > > > "php.ini-recommended" file that is distributed with PHP. I believe > > > this is to discourage users from using short open tags in > > > redistributable applications to ensure greater compatibility. If logic > > > is added to Zend_View that "supports" this functionality, it will be > > > promoting something that appears to be considered bad practice. I > > > realize that ZF would restrict it to views, but developers/users may > > > get in the habit of using short open tags elsewhere. > > > > So, you're advocating for more verbose view scripts, then? > > > > Sorry, had to get the dig in. However, the question is serious. View > > scripts should be readable. If you use the same coding standards for > > view scripts that we have for the general framework components, they > > quickly become unreadable, even in a good IDE/editor with syntax > > highlighting. > > > > I personally feel it's not difficult to switch back and forth between > > view scripts and regular code -- in part because there is an immediate > > *visual* difference when I do so. > > > > I'm *not* recommending that we use short tags everywhere, and am fact > > recommending we restrict their usage to view scripts -- the stricter > > conventions would continue to apply where they matter most, which is > > with the core code. My proposal is that we append the manual to make > > this clear, and also to outline the rationale behind it. > > > > Besides the typical rationale about the recommended php.ini settings > > (this has been brought up before), and the fact that short tags are not > > on by default in all configurations (which I plan to address with a > > stream wrapper), what other objections are there to using short tags for > > view scripts? I personally feel that these two objections are pedantic > > -- being strict for strictness' sake -- and don't focus on > > maintainability and readability of the view scripts. But I'm willing to > > listen to other arguments. > > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Jordan Moore > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Doesn't the recommended php.ini that is distributed with PHP disable > > > > short tags? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney > > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > -- Aaron D. Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > > > > > > > > > (on Thursday, 20 March 2008, 12:06 PM -0700): > > > > > > I'm sure I'll eventually appreciate it. However, I'm a little > > > > > > frustrated > > > > > > > > > > > > that I'm going to have to go through and fix all the short > > > > > > tags to get it working on my servers. > > > > > > > > > > Add this to your .htaccess: > > > > > > > > > > php_flag short_open_tag On > > > > > > > > > > I'm working on a stream wrapper to transparently enable this for > > > > > people who have the flag disabled, but the recommendation will be > > > > > to have this on so that your view scripts will work with optimal > > > > > performance. > > > > > > > > > > > Ralph Schindler wrote: > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have put together a demo application that showcases some > > > > > > > features of Zend_Layout and Zend_View Enhancements within > > > > > > > the MVC environment. If you would like to download, set it > > > > > > > up and play/browse the code within it, it is located here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend_Layout+an > > > > > > >d+Zend_View+Enhancements+Demo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The demo currently includes ZF version 1.5 and Dojo 1.0.2 in > > > > > > > the download. So basically, this demo app is pretty self > > > > > > > contained. Not alot of setup aside from pointing a doc ro
Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
My fear is that new PHP developers will see short open tags in the ZF documentation, think, "Sweet! That makes things easier!", and start using them in all areas of their applications (not just views). I don't see it being a big problem, as long as... 1. There's decent explanations in the documentation when/why short open tags are used. 2. The stream wrapper can be disabled, so I don't take a performance hit when I upgrade to 1.5.x. :) On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- Jordan Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > (on Thursday, 20 March 2008, 01:05 PM -0700): > > > I just verified that "short_open_tag" is disabled in the > > "php.ini-recommended" file that is distributed with PHP. I believe > > this is to discourage users from using short open tags in > > redistributable applications to ensure greater compatibility. If logic > > is added to Zend_View that "supports" this functionality, it will be > > promoting something that appears to be considered bad practice. I > > realize that ZF would restrict it to views, but developers/users may > > get in the habit of using short open tags elsewhere. > > So, you're advocating for more verbose view scripts, then? > > Sorry, had to get the dig in. However, the question is serious. View > scripts should be readable. If you use the same coding standards for > view scripts that we have for the general framework components, they > quickly become unreadable, even in a good IDE/editor with syntax > highlighting. > > I personally feel it's not difficult to switch back and forth between > view scripts and regular code -- in part because there is an immediate > *visual* difference when I do so. > > I'm *not* recommending that we use short tags everywhere, and am fact > recommending we restrict their usage to view scripts -- the stricter > conventions would continue to apply where they matter most, which is > with the core code. My proposal is that we append the manual to make > this clear, and also to outline the rationale behind it. > > Besides the typical rationale about the recommended php.ini settings > (this has been brought up before), and the fact that short tags are not > on by default in all configurations (which I plan to address with a > stream wrapper), what other objections are there to using short tags for > view scripts? I personally feel that these two objections are pedantic > -- being strict for strictness' sake -- and don't focus on > maintainability and readability of the view scripts. But I'm willing to > listen to other arguments. > > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Jordan Moore > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Doesn't the recommended php.ini that is distributed with PHP disable > short tags? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > -- Aaron D. Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > > > (on Thursday, 20 March 2008, 12:06 PM -0700): > > > > > > > > > I'm sure I'll eventually appreciate it. However, I'm a little > frustrated > > > > > that I'm going to have to go through and fix all the short tags to > get it > > > > > working on my servers. > > > > > > > > Add this to your .htaccess: > > > > > > > > php_flag short_open_tag On > > > > > > > > I'm working on a stream wrapper to transparently enable this for > people > > > > who have the flag disabled, but the recommendation will be to have > this > > > > on so that your view scripts will work with optimal performance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ralph Schindler wrote: > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > > > I have put together a demo application that showcases some > features of > > > > > > Zend_Layout and Zend_View Enhancements within the MVC > environment. If you > > > > > > would like to download, set it up and play/browse the code > within it, it > > > > > > is located here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend_Layout+and+Zend_View+Enhancements+Demo > > > > > > > > > > > > The demo currently includes ZF version 1.5 and Dojo 1.0.2 in the > download. > > > > > > So basically, this demo app is pretty self contained. Not alot > of setup > > > > > > aside from pointing a doc root to its public folder is necessary. > > > > > > > > > > > > Over the course of the coming weeks, I will be taking the time > to add more > > > > > > examples (I will increment the version number of the download as > I do). > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone has any feedback, or requests as to what you would > like to see > > > > > > Demo'ed within it either reply here or add comments directly to > that page. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Matthew Weier O'Phinney > > > > PHP Developer| [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Zend - The PHP Company | http://www.zend.c
Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
-- Jordan Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 20 March 2008, 01:05 PM -0700): > I just verified that "short_open_tag" is disabled in the > "php.ini-recommended" file that is distributed with PHP. I believe > this is to discourage users from using short open tags in > redistributable applications to ensure greater compatibility. If logic > is added to Zend_View that "supports" this functionality, it will be > promoting something that appears to be considered bad practice. I > realize that ZF would restrict it to views, but developers/users may > get in the habit of using short open tags elsewhere. So, you're advocating for more verbose view scripts, then? Sorry, had to get the dig in. However, the question is serious. View scripts should be readable. If you use the same coding standards for view scripts that we have for the general framework components, they quickly become unreadable, even in a good IDE/editor with syntax highlighting. I personally feel it's not difficult to switch back and forth between view scripts and regular code -- in part because there is an immediate *visual* difference when I do so. I'm *not* recommending that we use short tags everywhere, and am fact recommending we restrict their usage to view scripts -- the stricter conventions would continue to apply where they matter most, which is with the core code. My proposal is that we append the manual to make this clear, and also to outline the rationale behind it. Besides the typical rationale about the recommended php.ini settings (this has been brought up before), and the fact that short tags are not on by default in all configurations (which I plan to address with a stream wrapper), what other objections are there to using short tags for view scripts? I personally feel that these two objections are pedantic -- being strict for strictness' sake -- and don't focus on maintainability and readability of the view scripts. But I'm willing to listen to other arguments. > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Jordan Moore > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Doesn't the recommended php.ini that is distributed with PHP disable short > > tags? > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -- Aaron D. Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > > (on Thursday, 20 March 2008, 12:06 PM -0700): > > > > > > > I'm sure I'll eventually appreciate it. However, I'm a little > > frustrated > > > > that I'm going to have to go through and fix all the short tags to > > get it > > > > working on my servers. > > > > > > Add this to your .htaccess: > > > > > > php_flag short_open_tag On > > > > > > I'm working on a stream wrapper to transparently enable this for people > > > who have the flag disabled, but the recommendation will be to have this > > > on so that your view scripts will work with optimal performance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ralph Schindler wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I have put together a demo application that showcases some features > > of > > > > > Zend_Layout and Zend_View Enhancements within the MVC environment. > > If you > > > > > would like to download, set it up and play/browse the code within > > it, it > > > > > is located here: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend_Layout+and+Zend_View+Enhancements+Demo > > > > > > > > > > The demo currently includes ZF version 1.5 and Dojo 1.0.2 in the > > download. > > > > > So basically, this demo app is pretty self contained. Not alot of > > setup > > > > > aside from pointing a doc root to its public folder is necessary. > > > > > > > > > > Over the course of the coming weeks, I will be taking the time to > > add more > > > > > examples (I will increment the version number of the download as I > > do). > > > > > > > > > > If anyone has any feedback, or requests as to what you would like > > to see > > > > > Demo'ed within it either reply here or add comments directly to > > that page. > > > > > > -- > > > Matthew Weier O'Phinney > > > PHP Developer| [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Zend - The PHP Company | http://www.zend.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jordan Moore - Creative Director > > Sanctus Studios LLC > > PO Box 2202 > > Tacoma, WA 98401 > > (253) 238-8676 > > > > > > -- > Jordan Moore - Creative Director > Sanctus Studios LLC > PO Box 2202 > Tacoma, WA 98401 > (253) 238-8676 > -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney PHP Developer| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zend - The PHP Company | http://www.zend.com/
Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
I just verified that "short_open_tag" is disabled in the "php.ini-recommended" file that is distributed with PHP. I believe this is to discourage users from using short open tags in redistributable applications to ensure greater compatibility. If logic is added to Zend_View that "supports" this functionality, it will be promoting something that appears to be considered bad practice. I realize that ZF would restrict it to views, but developers/users may get in the habit of using short open tags elsewhere. On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Jordan Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Doesn't the recommended php.ini that is distributed with PHP disable short > tags? > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- Aaron D. Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > (on Thursday, 20 March 2008, 12:06 PM -0700): > > > > > I'm sure I'll eventually appreciate it. However, I'm a little frustrated > > > that I'm going to have to go through and fix all the short tags to get > it > > > working on my servers. > > > > Add this to your .htaccess: > > > > php_flag short_open_tag On > > > > I'm working on a stream wrapper to transparently enable this for people > > who have the flag disabled, but the recommendation will be to have this > > on so that your view scripts will work with optimal performance. > > > > > > > > > Ralph Schindler wrote: > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > I have put together a demo application that showcases some features of > > > > Zend_Layout and Zend_View Enhancements within the MVC environment. If > you > > > > would like to download, set it up and play/browse the code within it, > it > > > > is located here: > > > > > > > > > http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend_Layout+and+Zend_View+Enhancements+Demo > > > > > > > > The demo currently includes ZF version 1.5 and Dojo 1.0.2 in the > download. > > > > So basically, this demo app is pretty self contained. Not alot of > setup > > > > aside from pointing a doc root to its public folder is necessary. > > > > > > > > Over the course of the coming weeks, I will be taking the time to add > more > > > > examples (I will increment the version number of the download as I > do). > > > > > > > > If anyone has any feedback, or requests as to what you would like to > see > > > > Demo'ed within it either reply here or add comments directly to that > page. > > > > -- > > Matthew Weier O'Phinney > > PHP Developer| [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Zend - The PHP Company | http://www.zend.com/ > > > > > > -- > Jordan Moore - Creative Director > Sanctus Studios LLC > PO Box 2202 > Tacoma, WA 98401 > (253) 238-8676 > -- Jordan Moore - Creative Director Sanctus Studios LLC PO Box 2202 Tacoma, WA 98401 (253) 238-8676
Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
Doesn't the recommended php.ini that is distributed with PHP disable short tags? On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- Aaron D. Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > (on Thursday, 20 March 2008, 12:06 PM -0700): > > > I'm sure I'll eventually appreciate it. However, I'm a little frustrated > > that I'm going to have to go through and fix all the short tags to get it > > working on my servers. > > Add this to your .htaccess: > > php_flag short_open_tag On > > I'm working on a stream wrapper to transparently enable this for people > who have the flag disabled, but the recommendation will be to have this > on so that your view scripts will work with optimal performance. > > > > > Ralph Schindler wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > I have put together a demo application that showcases some features of > > > Zend_Layout and Zend_View Enhancements within the MVC environment. If you > > > would like to download, set it up and play/browse the code within it, it > > > is located here: > > > > > > > http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend_Layout+and+Zend_View+Enhancements+Demo > > > > > > The demo currently includes ZF version 1.5 and Dojo 1.0.2 in the > download. > > > So basically, this demo app is pretty self contained. Not alot of setup > > > aside from pointing a doc root to its public folder is necessary. > > > > > > Over the course of the coming weeks, I will be taking the time to add > more > > > examples (I will increment the version number of the download as I do). > > > > > > If anyone has any feedback, or requests as to what you would like to see > > > Demo'ed within it either reply here or add comments directly to that > page. > > -- > Matthew Weier O'Phinney > PHP Developer| [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Zend - The PHP Company | http://www.zend.com/ > -- Jordan Moore - Creative Director Sanctus Studios LLC PO Box 2202 Tacoma, WA 98401 (253) 238-8676
Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
-- Aaron D. Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 20 March 2008, 12:06 PM -0700): > I'm sure I'll eventually appreciate it. However, I'm a little frustrated > that I'm going to have to go through and fix all the short tags to get it > working on my servers. Add this to your .htaccess: php_flag short_open_tag On I'm working on a stream wrapper to transparently enable this for people who have the flag disabled, but the recommendation will be to have this on so that your view scripts will work with optimal performance. > Ralph Schindler wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > I have put together a demo application that showcases some features of > > Zend_Layout and Zend_View Enhancements within the MVC environment. If you > > would like to download, set it up and play/browse the code within it, it > > is located here: > > > > http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend_Layout+and+Zend_View+Enhancements+Demo > > > > The demo currently includes ZF version 1.5 and Dojo 1.0.2 in the download. > > So basically, this demo app is pretty self contained. Not alot of setup > > aside from pointing a doc root to its public folder is necessary. > > > > Over the course of the coming weeks, I will be taking the time to add more > > examples (I will increment the version number of the download as I do). > > > > If anyone has any feedback, or requests as to what you would like to see > > Demo'ed within it either reply here or add comments directly to that page. -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney PHP Developer| [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zend - The PHP Company | http://www.zend.com/
Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
I'm sure I'll eventually appreciate it. However, I'm a little frustrated that I'm going to have to go through and fix all the short tags to get it working on my servers. Ralph Schindler wrote: Hello everyone, I have put together a demo application that showcases some features of Zend_Layout and Zend_View Enhancements within the MVC environment. If you would like to download, set it up and play/browse the code within it, it is located here: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend_Layout+and+Zend_View+Enhancements+Demo The demo currently includes ZF version 1.5 and Dojo 1.0.2 in the download. So basically, this demo app is pretty self contained. Not alot of setup aside from pointing a doc root to its public folder is necessary. Over the course of the coming weeks, I will be taking the time to add more examples (I will increment the version number of the download as I do). If anyone has any feedback, or requests as to what you would like to see Demo'ed within it either reply here or add comments directly to that page. Thanks! Ralph Schindler -- Aaron D. Campbell Xavisys
Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
I got the same thing, as well as a problem when I tried "tar -xzvf file.tar.bz" However, for some reason I could "gunzip file.tar.gz" then "tar -xvf file.tar" As long as I ran it as separate command it worked fine. Jean-Marc Fontaine wrote: Well, I am able to extract on both OSX as well as Vista with 7Zip Ark on KDE says the archive is corrupted and extracts nothing. Jean-Marc -- Aaron D. Campbell Xavisys
Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
Well, I am able to extract on both OSX as well as Vista with 7Zip Ark on KDE says the archive is corrupted and extracts nothing. Jean-Marc Kanopée - Développement Informatique Durable 56 rue de Saint André 59800 Lille Tél : 03 20 74 61 25 Portable : 06 88 56 50 79 Fax : 09 59 77 04 28 Web : http://www.kanopee.net/
Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
Well, I am able to extract on both OSX as well as Vista with 7Zip I will talk to the team more over the next few days on perhaps finding a better way to distribute demo like applications. -ralph Julian Davchev wrote: Is it just me or archive is broken and cannot extract. Ralph Schindler wrote: Hello everyone, I have put together a demo application that showcases some features of Zend_Layout and Zend_View Enhancements within the MVC environment. If you would like to download, set it up and play/browse the code within it, it is located here: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend_Layout+and+Zend_View+Enhancements+Demo The demo currently includes ZF version 1.5 and Dojo 1.0.2 in the download. So basically, this demo app is pretty self contained. Not alot of setup aside from pointing a doc root to its public folder is necessary. Over the course of the coming weeks, I will be taking the time to add more examples (I will increment the version number of the download as I do). If anyone has any feedback, or requests as to what you would like to see Demo'ed within it either reply here or add comments directly to that page. Thanks! Ralph Schindler
Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
Worked fine for me on OSX, but StuffIt did crash after unpacking it. -K On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Julian Davchev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it just me or archive is broken and cannot extract. > > > Ralph Schindler wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > I have put together a demo application that showcases some features of > > Zend_Layout and Zend_View Enhancements within the MVC environment. If > > you would like to download, set it up and play/browse the code within > > it, it is located here: > > > > > http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend_Layout+and+Zend_View+Enhancements+Demo > > > > > > The demo currently includes ZF version 1.5 and Dojo 1.0.2 in the > > download. So basically, this demo app is pretty self contained. Not > > alot of setup aside from pointing a doc root to its public folder is > > necessary. > > > > Over the course of the coming weeks, I will be taking the time to add > > more examples (I will increment the version number of the download as > > I do). > > > > If anyone has any feedback, or requests as to what you would like to > > see Demo'ed within it either reply here or add comments directly to > > that page. > > > > Thanks! > > Ralph Schindler > > > > > > > >
Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
Is it just me or archive is broken and cannot extract. Ralph Schindler wrote: Hello everyone, I have put together a demo application that showcases some features of Zend_Layout and Zend_View Enhancements within the MVC environment. If you would like to download, set it up and play/browse the code within it, it is located here: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend_Layout+and+Zend_View+Enhancements+Demo The demo currently includes ZF version 1.5 and Dojo 1.0.2 in the download. So basically, this demo app is pretty self contained. Not alot of setup aside from pointing a doc root to its public folder is necessary. Over the course of the coming weeks, I will be taking the time to add more examples (I will increment the version number of the download as I do). If anyone has any feedback, or requests as to what you would like to see Demo'ed within it either reply here or add comments directly to that page. Thanks! Ralph Schindler
Re: [fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
Thank you very much Ralph ! Jean-Marc Kanopée - Développement Informatique Durable 56 rue de Saint André 59800 Lille Tél : 03 20 74 61 25 Portable : 06 88 56 50 79 Fax : 09 59 77 04 28 Web : http://www.kanopee.net/
[fw-general] Zend_Layout & Zend_View Enhancements Demo
Hello everyone, I have put together a demo application that showcases some features of Zend_Layout and Zend_View Enhancements within the MVC environment. If you would like to download, set it up and play/browse the code within it, it is located here: http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend_Layout+and+Zend_View+Enhancements+Demo The demo currently includes ZF version 1.5 and Dojo 1.0.2 in the download. So basically, this demo app is pretty self contained. Not alot of setup aside from pointing a doc root to its public folder is necessary. Over the course of the coming weeks, I will be taking the time to add more examples (I will increment the version number of the download as I do). If anyone has any feedback, or requests as to what you would like to see Demo'ed within it either reply here or add comments directly to that page. Thanks! Ralph Schindler
