Mac OS 9.2.2 on the internet

2004-04-06 Thread David Harris
Hi:

I am trying to use my iBook (700 Mhz) with 9.2.2.  I can get the iBook 
to send and receive but not to get IE for Mac to work.  What am I doing 
wrong???

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Mail confirmation.

2004-04-06 Thread invicta
Hello All,

I'm using Mail 1.3 on my PB 17 and wonder; is there a setting which 
will confirm that my e-mail has reached it's destination? Similar to 
'registered' when using snail mail. Even better would be a setting 
confirming that the message has been opened.

TIA and greetings, Andre.

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Re: Install OS9 after Panther

2004-04-06 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 06/04/04 00:22, John at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Apr 5, 2004, at 3:25 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
 
 on 05/04/04 15:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I just got a ibook with panther on it.  When I try to select classic
 it gives
 me a warning you do not have a version of Mac OS9 installed that
 supports
 classic.  Install Mac 9.1 or later.   How can I install classic and
 not ruin
 the Panther installation?  I have a original 9.1 software system
 disc.  Do I
 just put it in and run it???
 Thanks for all your help.
 
 Just install over the OS X installation. Both versions can co-exist on
 the
 same disk.
 
 -Laurent.
 
 Sounds easy enough, but it sure won't work for me! I boot my iceBook
 from the OS 9.2.2 disc, and start the install, but it says it can't
 find a valid destination volume. I then started up Drive Setup, and try
 to mount the hard drive, but it says it can't mount the drive. The only
 option I get is to initialize the drive, which I obviously don't want
 to do. Looks like a no-win to me. Any suggestions?

I'm not sure but it might be possible that when the drive was formatted, no
OS 9 driver was installed on it so that the drive cannot be accessed from OS
9. If that would be the case, the only solution, I think, would be to
reformat the drive from OS X system CD and make sure that the OS 9 driver is
installed.

-Laurent.
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Re: Battery: iBook Clamshell

2004-04-06 Thread Thomas Ethen
Leave it in overnight and see if it takes a charge!

Tom
 I received it today and installed into a Tangerine iBook running OS
 9.2.2 and No Charge. So I put into my Indigo iBook running OS X 10.2 8
 and I get the Red X after about 60 seconds.
 
 Is there a trick, a reset or a workaround before I get into a debate
 with this guy.
 
 Thanks for any insight into this.
 
 Kyle
 


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Re: Mail confirmation.

2004-04-06 Thread Jim
Andre,

I know AOL offers a form of delivery confirmation, but it is limited 
to mail between AOL users, and not the internet at large.  In fact, as 
far as I know, internet mail systems have no mechanism for such 
feedback, and since it's all FREE mail, there is really no one who's 
responsible for mail delivery.  Your ISP cannot even assure you that 
mail will be delivered, all they can do is say that it's been sent out 
on its way.  This is a basic flaw in the way email works, and it boils 
down to the adage you get what you pay for.  If you don't pay a 
per-message charge (or pay for a closed system such as AOL), you are 
entitled to no expectation that messages will be delivered, or even 
sent, let alone confirmation that someone read it.

This is truly a philosophical controversy.  On one side are people who 
believe things should be free and open, and on the other are those who 
believe that service-for-pay is superior.  I have had lengthy 
discussions with computer engineers who are of the mindset that it's 
none of my business whether a particular recipient has checked their 
email, read their email, or even been online sufficiently to know that 
I've sent them email, because that's an invasion of the recipients 
privacy.  (Maybe they've called in sick to work should be in bed, not 
be reading spy-mail from their employer.)  In a sense, because the 
recipient is paying their ISP for incoming mail service, they ARE 
entitled to a degree of protection from snooping and surveillance.  
This mindset at least has helped curtail spam, since if return-receipts 
were available, it would automatically verify the validity of each 
email address--at present spammers resort to ignorance on the part of 
recipients, to click on buttons or have their email client 
automatically download pictures, in order to verify an email address.

So, if you want a level of service that gives you message delivery 
confirmation, you will need to pay for and use a closed system, and it 
will likely be in your corporate best interest to have exactly that for 
in-house use.

Remember, if something is being given away for free, it almost 
assuredly has no value.

--Jim giver of free advice.

From: invicta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello All,

 I'm using Mail 1.3 on my PB 17 and wonder; is there a setting which 
will confirm that my e-mail has reached it's destination? Similar to 
'registered' when using snail mail. Even better would be a setting 
confirming that the message has been opened.

 TIA and greetings, Andre.
 

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Re: Install OS9 after Panther

2004-04-06 Thread Polkadoter
Workedand no problems so far - transferred all my 
files/applications/extensions/pref etc over and seems to just fine.  Thanks so much,
Linda
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In a message dated 4/5/04 3:25:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

on 05/04/04 15:29, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just got a ibook with panther on it.  When I try to select classic it 
gives
 me a warning you do not have a version of Mac OS9 installed that supports
 classic.  Install Mac 9.1 or later.   How can I install classic and not 
ruin
 the Panther installation?  I have a original 9.1 software system disc.  Do I
 just put it in and run it???
 Thanks for all your help.

Just install over the OS X installation. Both versions can co-exist on the
same disk.

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Re: Mail confirmation.

2004-04-06 Thread Anne Judge
On Apr 6, 2004, at 10:05 AM, Jim wrote:

Andre,

I know AOL offers a form of delivery confirmation, but it is limited 
to mail between AOL users, and not the internet at large.  In fact, as 
far as I know, internet mail systems have no mechanism for such 
feedback, and since it's all FREE mail, there is really no one who's 
responsible for mail delivery.
Eudora  Netscape/Mozilla at least - don't know about others - allow 
for receipt confirmations - but require an email client at the far end 
that also supports it, plus the user at the far end has to have his/her 
mailer set so it at least gives the option of acknowledging receipt. (I 
remember the prefs of at least one of those clients gives the options 
do not respond, ask before responding, or always respond to 
return receipt requests - always respond is bad because it could 
confirm your address to spammers, but if they have it set to do not 
respond you won't get the receipt even if the message is received.)

I tested this a while ago sending from Eudora to a church address that 
distributes to 5 or 6 people.  I got acknowledgments from the Netscape 
user  someone who gets her mail at work.  No response from any of the 
AOL users, so I assume their client doesn't support it.

Mail does not appear to include this option.

In Eudora I believe it's the RR button at the top of a compose window.

Too long since I used Netscape to remember.

Anne

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Using a WallStreet as a TV?

2004-04-06 Thread Dr. K. Gensberg
I have a WallStreet 266, and was thinking of using its excellent 
screen as a TV (in the UK) for when I'm in my camper van. Is there 
any way of doing this?

Thanks

All the best

Karl

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Re: Pismo ethernet auto sensing??

2004-04-06 Thread Jeff Hubatka
From: Jim Scolman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pismo ethernet auto sensing??
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2004 18:55:24 -0700
Hi, I think most modern macs will sense between a crossover cable
or a standard ethernet cable, therefor either may be used without a
hub/switch/etc.  Thanks, Jim.
On Apr 5, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Paul Simoneau wrote:
My Pismo has an auto-sensing Ethernet card.

Auto-sense means the card will automatically adjust for a 10 million
bits per second or a 100 million bits per second connection. The other
end of the connection (a fixed speed hub; an auto-sensing or fixed
speed switch interface;  a fixed speed router interface; or another
auto-sensing Mac) will dictate the speed negotiated. If the ends are
both auto-sensing then they will negotiate for the highest speed both
can handle.
The OP was asking about needing a crossover cable. Lots of people also 
refer to that as auto-sensing. According to Apple's document 42717, the 
Pismo would need a crossover. The TiBook and later doesn't. Here's a 
list:  http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=42717

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Re: Mail confirmation.

2004-04-06 Thread dan_A
On Apr 6, 2004, at 11:04 AM, Anne Judge wrote:

Eudora  Netscape/Mozilla at least - don't know about others - allow 
for receipt confirmations - but require an email client at the far end 
that also supports it, plus the user at the far end has to have 
his/her mailer set so it at least gives the option of acknowledging 
receipt. (I remember the prefs of at least one of those clients gives 
the options do not respond, ask before responding, or always 
respond to return receipt requests - always respond is bad because it 
could confirm your address to spammers, but if they have it set to do 
not respond you won't get the receipt even if the message is 
received.)
There is a way to know if your mail reached its destination, not if 
someone opened it. It can't be 100% guaranteed that if you miss-address 
an eMail it will come back to you, sometimes the next day but usually 
almost right away, returned by the daemon mailer as an error. I would 
be addressed to you something like this:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   April 6, 2004 11:49:31 AM EDT
Subject:Undeliverable mail: Re: Mail confirmation.
It won't come back if miss addressed and the address is some-ones 
actual address, though they might get in touch with you about it. If 
your email can't be delivered, it will come back. If it doesn't return 
then someone got it. It's their privilege and choice to open it or toss 
it unread, and that's what's great about email.
	
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Re: Pismo ethernet auto sensing??

2004-04-06 Thread Eugene Lee
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 03:40:15PM -0400, Brian Braunschweiger wrote:
: 
: Is the ethernet port on a G3 PowerBook (Pismo) auto sensing or did 
: that come only to more recent PowerBooks?

That's Auto-MDIX, which lets a machine automatically switch between
straight-through and crossover modes.  AFAIK, this feature appeared on
Macs with built-in Gigabit Ethernet.


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Re: Mail confirmation.

2004-04-06 Thread Edward Floden
On 2004-Apr-06, at 11:18, dan_A wrote:

It won't come back if miss addressed and the address is some-ones 
actual address
That's not necessarily true.

Many domains, including mine, direct all misaddressed mail to a 
'catch-all' account. The message won't bounce, even though the user to 
which it was sent doesn't exist.

If it doesn't return then someone got it. It's their privilege and 
choice to open it or toss it unread, and that's what's great about 
email.
But you're correct about that. Now, whether I ever look at the 
misaddressed mail, that's my problem. :)

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Re: Install OS9 after Panther

2004-04-06 Thread Roger Shufflebottom
At 11:22 pm -0500 5/4/04, John wrote:
Sounds easy enough, but it sure won't work for me! I boot my iceBook 
from the OS 9.2.2 disc, and start the install, but it says it can't 
find a valid destination volume. I then started up Drive Setup, and 
try to mount the hard drive, but it says it can't mount the drive. 
The only option I get is to initialize the drive, which I obviously 
don't want to do. Looks like a no-win to me. Any suggestions?
Had a similar problem on a G4 minitower (I know this is a PB list but 
this may help). On my G4 Powerbook 800 I did a clean install of OS 
10.3.2, followed by 9.2 as I need a few apps to run in Classic. All 
OK. Tried the same thing on my G4 AGP (ex 500, now with Giga 1.25Mhz 
processor), and the thing locked up during the OS9.2 install again 
and again. In desperation, I copied the entire OS9 system folder off 
the Powerbook onto the G4 tower and . . . it works. I haven't tried 
booting in OS9 but I can run Classic in OS X.
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Re: Using a WallStreet as a TV?

2004-04-06 Thread vicki duggan
I Think that in theory this should work but do not quote me.

plug a pcmcia video capture card in the laptop connect the card to a video
recorder and a ariel to the video .Then tune the video via the recorder to
the channels and use the video remote to select the channels.

Use apple video player software. All the mac is doing is displaying the
video feed but the video recorder is doing all the work.

should work.

vicki

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Subject: Using a WallStreet as a TV?
Date: Tue, Apr 6, 2004, 4:04 PM


 I have a WallStreet 266, and was thinking of using its excellent
 screen as a TV (in the UK) for when I'm in my camper van. Is there
 any way of doing this?

 Thanks

 All the best

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Two WS questions...

2004-04-06 Thread COCCORP
Hi, G's...

I recently switched from 12 to a 14 screen on my Wallstreet. How do I move 
the Control Strip to the bottom of the screen(!) as it is stuck where the 
bottom of the screen USED to be; now about 3/4th of the way down?

Also, on another Wallstreet I am building for my sister; it work fine, but 
there is no sound. Is that an indication that the sound/power card is defective?

Thanks,

Craig W.
Atlanta, GA
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Re: VST Zip MCE CDRW

2004-04-06 Thread JOHN.E.ABRAHAM
Hi Listers

At 19:15 -0400 5/4/04, G-Books wrote:
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2004 11:43:28 -0700
Subject: Zip and CDRW
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 4/5/04 9:18 AM, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: JOHN.E.ABRAHAM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: VST Zip  MCE CDRW
 Hi Listers

 I have a frustrating problem I am unable to solve.

  I have a Wallstreet 233 (w /cache) OS 9.2.2.   I had supplied with it
  a floppy which I use in LH bay and the CD rom in the RH side,  both
  of these perform OK.As the floppy has its limitations regarding
 backup etc I decided to add a Iomega(VST) 100 Mb zip drive.  Before I
 got around to trying to use it an MCE CDRW for the Wallstreet became
  available for  me to buy, so I went for it.
 
  Your ideas would be most appreciated
 John Abraham (UK)
You may have old or incorrect zip extensions, a bad cdrw module, or you may
have bent or fried an internal connector.
Thanks for the guidance.

May I say that If the the internal connector was fried, the floppy 
would not work in the LH bay and the CD rom would not work in the RH 
bay, am I correct.  But they both do, so why not the Zip in place of 
the floppy and the CD RW in place of the CD rom ?.As both units 
were tested before being supplied to me, I have to assume it is 
extension conflicts as there is no visible bent connectors.

I downloaded drivers from Iomega and MCE sites so will try these to 
see if they make the drives perform.

Thanks again.

John Abraham (UK)



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Re: Two WS questions...

2004-04-06 Thread Andrew Kershaw
I recently switched from 12 to a 14 screen on my Wallstreet. How do I move
the Control Strip to the bottom of the screen(!) as it is stuck where the
bottom of the screen USED to be; now about 3/4th of the way down?
Hold down the option key and click on the tab at the end of the 
control strip to move it around the screen.

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Re: Two WS questions...

2004-04-06 Thread COCCORP
In a message dated 4/6/2004 7:11:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

Hold down the option key and click on the tab at the end of the 
control strip to move it around the screen.

Dang! 

U would think I would know that... I'm demotin' myself two Mac Guru 
grades

Thanks for the help...

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Re: Two WS questions...

2004-04-06 Thread Ken
My Reply follows quote. On 06/04/2004 15:57 [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:  

Hi, G's...

I recently switched from 12 to a 14 screen on my Wallstreet. How do I move 
the Control Strip to the bottom of the screen(!) as it is stuck where the 
bottom of the screen USED to be; now about 3/4th of the way down?

Also, on another Wallstreet I am building for my sister; it work fine, but 
there is no sound. Is that an indication that the sound/power card is 
defective?

Thanks,

Craig W.
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To move the Control Strip, hold the OPTION key and drag it to where you 
want it.

Can't say about the sound. Could be a number of things. Check the 
appropriate control panel first.

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Re: Two WS questions...

2004-04-06 Thread Richard Smykla
Try Option-drag and Command-drag with the mouse.

Rick

Hi, G's...

I recently switched from 12 to a 14 screen on my Wallstreet. How do I move
the Control Strip to the bottom of the screen(!) as it is stuck where the
bottom of the screen USED to be; now about 3/4th of the way down?
Also, on another Wallstreet I am building for my sister; it work fine, but
there is no sound. Is that an indication that the sound/power card 
is defective?

Thanks,

Craig W.
Atlanta, GA
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Re: Jaguar on Beige G3

2004-04-06 Thread Mikael Byström
Andrew, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Somewhere along the line I got the impression it was needed for ANY 
OSX version. I'll have to wait a little on the memory upgrades, will 
I be ok with only 192mb ram for a while? I'm not using Photoshop or 
anything huge like that.

At any rate I prefere Panther over Jaguar, though the latter is pretty
good for some stuff. You wil manage with 192, but your box will be
unecessarily slow until you give at least 384MB, preferably 512 or more.
If you're going to be using Jaguar, I suggest you make sure you run
10.2.8 and get a fast second HD, prefrerably on its own bus, and put your
VM file on that with Swapcop or similar methods. I had 20% or so better
graphics because of that, but Panther and moe RAM made a larger difference. 

At least in the Powerbook, unless audio in is vital, Panther is the way to go.



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Re: (OT) Mail confirmation

2004-04-06 Thread Mikael Byström
invicta, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I'm using Mail 1.3 on my PB 17 and wonder; is there a setting which 
will confirm that my e-mail has reached it's destination? Similar to 
'registered' when using snail mail. Even better would be a setting 
confirming that the message has been opened.

Nothing that you actually can trust, especially outside your organisation.



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Re: Latest version of OSX for wallstreet/beige g3?

2004-04-06 Thread Mikael Byström
Andrew, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 I'm not sure if the latest alpha version is stable for 
everything except video on a beige g3 with panther, or if I should 
use an older version to keep things stable. Could someone recommend a 
particular version for me please?
I've had absolutely great results with XPF 3a14 and Panther on a
Powerbook G3 266. I'm not sure if the internal videocard works in the
beige yet, so you might have to use a separate PCI videocard with a
suitable driver. However, the PCMCIA slot and system sleep isn't supposed
to work in my model, but it does with Panther. Audio in doesn't work in
my powerbook, however. It just crackles. Audio out is fine.
 
The XPF documentation didn't make it clear for me how XPF is used. I 
understand that it is used during the installation process, but does 
it run everytime you use OSX as well? 
Yes, it modifes the system to some extent and even add some tailored code
and brings back some older system parts that is compatible with older
hardware. I've had very little OS problems that I know of since I
installed Panther and XPF 3a14. I preferred a9 over a11 before.

The documentation mentions 
using XPF to select OSX as your startup when switching back from OS9 
as a startup disk. Before reading that I thought XPF was only used 
for the initial installation.
It's transparent for the user post installation that it is used all the
time, but for switching from OS 9, you have to use it because OS 9s
startup disk will crash, due to modifications to NvRAM I think. For
switching to OS 9 it may help by blessing the OS 9 system folder,
making it bootable again. That it can get unblessed under certain
circumstances is a panther thing I believe.



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Panther, Audio and a G3 Book or Beige G3

2004-04-06 Thread illovox
 You don't need xpf for jag on a beige g3.  max the video ram, max the system
 ram, put in a fast (5400rpm or better) hd, partition with the first segment
 to hold less than 8 gigs.  Put jag on the first partition.  done.
 
 Well, don't I feel brilliant! ;)
 
 Somewhere along the line I got the impression it was needed for ANY
 OSX version. I'll have to wait a little on the memory upgrades, will
 I be ok with only 192mb ram for a while? I'm not using Photoshop or
 anything huge like that.
 
 Thanks again.

No problemo.  I think you do need xpf to put PANTHER on any g-Book before
the Pismo, and on any pre-built-in-USB CPU, but Jag will load on any of
these units without xpf, wherein some require that 7.x gig first partition.
As the chap says below, memory is the first thing you expand when
contemplating an OSX install.  I dislike the vm solution.  Spend the
dollars, buy used ram and max the machine.  X dynamically allocates ram, so
the more the merrier.  If onto a beige, get a 16mb (or better) v-ram video
card as well.  Can be had for $25 or so.  Make sure it's OSX capable.  16mb
activates Quartz Extreme.  The fast hd will just add snap.

 At any rate I prefere Panther over Jaguar, though the latter is pretty
 good for some stuff. You wil manage with 192, but your box will be
 unecessarily slow until you give at least 384MB, preferably 512 or more.
 If you're going to be using Jaguar, I suggest you make sure you run
 10.2.8 and get a fast second HD, prefrerably on its own bus, and put your
 VM file on that with Swapcop or similar methods. I had 20% or so better
 graphics because of that, but Panther and moe RAM made a larger difference.
 
 At least in the Powerbook, unless audio in is vital, Panther is the way to go.

Whoa, waitaminute...did I lose audio input capability on my Pismo when I
installed Panther?  What are we talkin' 'bout here?

BTW, anyone else see Hellboy and have as good a time as I did?  Whatafun
matinee movie!


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Re: Latest version of OSX for wallstreet/beige g3?

2004-04-06 Thread Rad Craig
I have a wallstreet 292 and haven't been able to get panther installed,
using a15 or a16.  I will either get the 'this computer is not compatible'
or whatever that message is, or a circle with a line thought it when it
reboots.  I REALLY want panther on here.  I've got 10.2.8 right now and it
seems to work OK except for some occasional freezing.  That's what I don't
understand, 2.8 works, but 3.x won't.

Any suggestions?  I've tried all the 'safest' config options of XPF, but it
never seems to make any difference.  I've tried it from OS9.2 and 10.2.8.

Rad...


On 4/6/04 4:45 AM, Mikael Byström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Andrew, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
 I'm not sure if the latest alpha version is stable for
 everything except video on a beige g3 with panther, or if I should
 use an older version to keep things stable. Could someone recommend a
 particular version for me please?
 I've had absolutely great results with XPF 3a14 and Panther on a
 Powerbook G3 266. I'm not sure if the internal videocard works in the
 beige yet, so you might have to use a separate PCI videocard with a
 suitable driver. However, the PCMCIA slot and system sleep isn't supposed
 to work in my model, but it does with Panther. Audio in doesn't work in
 my powerbook, however. It just crackles. Audio out is fine.
 
 The XPF documentation didn't make it clear for me how XPF is used. I
 understand that it is used during the installation process, but does
 it run everytime you use OSX as well?
 Yes, it modifes the system to some extent and even add some tailored code
 and brings back some older system parts that is compatible with older
 hardware. I've had very little OS problems that I know of since I
 installed Panther and XPF 3a14. I preferred a9 over a11 before.
 
 The documentation mentions
 using XPF to select OSX as your startup when switching back from OS9
 as a startup disk. Before reading that I thought XPF was only used
 for the initial installation.
 It's transparent for the user post installation that it is used all the
 time, but for switching from OS 9, you have to use it because OS 9s
 startup disk will crash, due to modifications to NvRAM I think. For
 switching to OS 9 it may help by blessing the OS 9 system folder,
 making it bootable again. That it can get unblessed under certain
 circumstances is a panther thing I believe.
 
 



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I need help with iChat folks!!

2004-04-06 Thread Zoltan
Ok, I need to know if this happens to anyone. . .

You're online, everything is booted, you've got iChat or iChat AV 
runnin' in the background and things couldn't be going better.  All of 
a sudden, someone in your buddy list wants to IM you.  No prob, right?  
Wrong!  In my case, for some reason. . .iChat crashes.  So, most of my 
friends think I'm a snob. . .they IM me to say hi, only to get the 
door slammed in their face!  Anyone know why this happens?  I have to 
re-boot it and wonder who it was that tried to IM me.  Once a chat is 
on-going, everything runs fine without a hitch.  Any ideas would be 
appreciated!  Thanks!



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Re: Mail confirmation.

2004-04-06 Thread Hugo Trottier
One other way, actualy that i use is Stuffit Deluxe 8.0 or above. In 
the prefs. you can set up priority and receipt fonctions.

Next time you launch your Apple mail it will display receipts .

Regards

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On 6-Apr-04, at 11:04 AM, Anne Judge wrote:

On Apr 6, 2004, at 10:05 AM, Jim wrote:

Andre,

I know AOL offers a form of delivery confirmation, but it is 
limited to mail between AOL users, and not the internet at large.  In 
fact, as far as I know, internet mail systems have no mechanism for 
such feedback, and since it's all FREE mail, there is really no one 
who's responsible for mail delivery.
Eudora  Netscape/Mozilla at least - don't know about others - allow 
for receipt confirmations - but require an email client at the far end 
that also supports it, plus the user at the far end has to have 
his/her mailer set so it at least gives the option of acknowledging 
receipt. (I remember the prefs of at least one of those clients gives 
the options do not respond, ask before responding, or always 
respond to return receipt requests - always respond is bad because it 
could confirm your address to spammers, but if they have it set to do 
not respond you won't get the receipt even if the message is 
received.)

I tested this a while ago sending from Eudora to a church address that 
distributes to 5 or 6 people.  I got acknowledgments from the Netscape 
user  someone who gets her mail at work.  No response from any of the 
AOL users, so I assume their client doesn't support it.

Mail does not appear to include this option.

In Eudora I believe it's the RR button at the top of a compose 
window.

Too long since I used Netscape to remember.

Anne

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Re: Latest version of OSX for wallstreet/beige g3?

2004-04-06 Thread Mikael Byström
Rad, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I have a wallstreet 292 and haven't been able to get panther installed,
using a15 or a16. 
Use a14 from OS 9. a11 for instance gave me all of those problem you
mention, so I used a9 then.
 I will either get the 'this computer is not compatible'
or whatever that message is, or a circle with a line thought it when it
reboots.  I REALLY want panther on here.  I've got 10.2.8 right now and it
seems to work OK except for some occasional freezing.  That's what I don't
understand, 2.8 works, but 3.x won't.

Any suggestions?  I've tried all the 'safest' config options of XPF, but it
never seems to make any difference.  I've tried it from OS9.2 and 10.2.8.



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Re: Mail confirmation.

2004-04-06 Thread Mikael Byström
Hugo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

One other way, actualy that i use is Stuffit Deluxe 8.0 or above. In 
the prefs. you can set up priority and receipt fonctions.

Next time you launch your Apple mail it will display receipts .
And only for those organisations that supports these. How many do?



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Re: Panther, Audio and a G3 Book or Beige G3

2004-04-06 Thread Mikael Byström
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Whoa, waitaminute...did I lose audio input capability on my Pismo when I
installed Panther?  What are we talkin' 'bout here?

I was refering to Powerbook Wallstreets and PDQs (WS II). Pismos don't
need XPF so what's your point? 



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Pismo/Wallstreet Keyboard

2004-04-06 Thread Nolen Scaife
Are the Pismo and Wallstreet keyboards exchangeable for one another or 
are they physically different?

If so, could one just pop off the keys on a Wallstreet keyboard and put 
them on a Pismo board?

Nolen

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