Re: Wallstreet PRAM Hack.......

2004-09-15 Thread BDavis 
Dan K... Thanks very much for the advise on the PRAM batteries.

You're correct... the individual cells at the price quoted aren't a
cheap fix. And it may be like that of the main battery Li-ion cells...
that it almost makes more sense to go the new route. That way there may
be some warranty where as the 'cheap-fix' offers little to none. 

I don't think I'm jumping to conclusions here with the batt. problems
but maybe there's something else wrong and I should have prefaced my
questions to the group with more symptoms first. 

The main batt. IS 'flat' ..or Zero voltage on the copper stips. Test
button shows no sign of charge. Before, (when I had some battery power)
it held only the shortest charge.. say 10 min. But the lightening bolt
was being shown in the battery icon. Then one day I noticed that all
four lights were lit on the battery when I plugged up the AC and
thought ah.. full charge. I unplugged AC and it shut down immediately.
(It had already begun to loose Day/Date.) After powering back up I
noticed that the battery icon showed Full charge but no lights lit when
the test button was pushed. I removed the AC and instant shutdown. 
Now as I power up with AC the batt. icon will first show either and Xed
out Batt. or Low/No charge.. but after a few minutes the icon shows a
Full battery (but we know it's dead). Sometimes ..with the batt. in, it
shows it Xed or Lo/No.. it's inconsistent.  That seemed strange.

Another strange thing happens when I plug the AC into the back. There's
a 'little' chime.. the sleep light blinks once then what sounds like
the fan or maybe hard drive beginning to spin up whirrrs then goes
quiet. Then it seems like it takes longer than before these problems
arose to chime (for real) then boot.

Sorry to go on for so long(!) but maybe there's something more than
just dead batteries involved and that maybe this might be typical of PC
board (Power Manager?) problems.  Sound familiar to anyone???

I'm enjoying the conversations about sleep vs. shut-down mode. In
Nashville we have frequent lightening storms and two or three power
outages throughout the year. And when/if there's any warning all my
computers are shut down and the plugs pulled.

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Re: Free ipods?

2004-09-15 Thread Donald Keenan 
On Wednesday, September 15, 2004, at 01:51 PM, Shane Hartley wrote:
Just sign up at this link:
http://www.freeiPods.com/default.aspx?referer=8867012

Wired did a story on this and they deemed it legit.
http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125,64614,00.html
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Re: Free ipods?

2004-09-15 Thread Kyle Hansen 
On 9/15/04 11:24 AM, "Dan Palka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Spew into
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> Was this an advertisement?

Yes, and the person has been warned.

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Re: Dead Combo Drive

2004-09-15 Thread CJ 
Sounds good.  If one comes with another manufacturer's face, can i adapt it
to work with the iBook?  Also, is there a firmware that must be flashed?
- Original Message - 
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> on 15/09/2004 03:25, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > From: "CJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Dead Combo Drive
> > Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:53:37 -0500
> >
> > I've just received an iBook/500 (dual usb).  The computer came with a
dead
> > combo drive.  Does anyone know where I can receive a new one for cheap?
I
> > have enough technical skills to install it myself.
>
> Check out the oft-mentioned xlr8yourmac Database under Drive
Compatibility,
> then your model of iBook and Combo (drive type).
>
> IIRC the iBooks used a Toshiba drive, so may be best to look for one of
> those. Though it wasn't the original model (as it's newer and faster), the
> SD-R2512 comes to mind, as I've seen it on ebay in Europe for approx.
50-60
> Euro new, on ebay in the US I think it's around $75 from legit sellers.
> Check xlr8yourmac for this and other Toshiba models, and don't forget to
see
> how they did with swapping the Bezel from the original drive onto the new
> one.
>
> Good luck.
> Chris
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Re: Shutting down PBs at night

2004-09-15 Thread Frank P. Eigler 
On Tue, 14 Sep 2004, Kyle Hansen wrote:

> On 9/14/04 5:52 PM, "MTH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Spew into the Cybertrough:
>
> > I don't have a powerbook, but my iBook has only been turned off once in
> > the year and a half that I have owned it and that is when I shipped it
> > back to Apple for service. I think that it would upset me to turn it
> > off every night, I'm not patient enough to wait for it to start up when
> > I want to get on it again.
>
> I'm an Apple Certified Technician and I shut mine off every night and unplug
> it from the wall.
>
> I have my reasons.

Care to share?

For example, I've been told numberous times that OS X does its maintenance
in the wee hours. Unless you get into CRON or use a utility such as Onyx,
you're apparently bound for trouble if oyu turn your machine off.

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Re: Shutting down PBs at night

2004-09-15 Thread Marcin Wichary 
Just as a thought on this, I'm not in electronics that much but I've 
read a
few times that turning electronic equipment off is sometimes more 
stressful
when you turn them back on because the current that is suddenly 
applied to
the circuits. Don't ask me to explain or elaborate, it's just what 
I've read
and heard a few times...
This has been posted very recently posted on the iMac LEM list:
It has basis in the days of vacuum tubes.  It has to do with the 
Tungsten filaments used in the CRT type monitors.  Tungsten has a 
positive temperature coefficient of resistance; the cold resistance 
being about a third of that at the operating temperature.  So when you 
turn on a CRT from cold, three times the current flows through the 
filament until it heats up.  The theory is: Multiple turn-ons stress 
the filament and it can fail earlier than when it is allowed to run 
hot (or reasonably warm) when not in use.  (You may have noticed how 
incandescent lamps sometimes burn-out at the time they are switched 
on)  There are ways to limit the initial inrush current to avoid this 
kind of damage. With proper attention to design, this should not be an 
issue with modern CRT based equipment.  Nor should it have anything to 
do with the LCD type monitors.
If anyone's interested more in this, look in the iMac list archive 
(topic called "Sleep," beginning of September) -- I assume that it's 
publicly available?

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Re: shutting down PBs at night

2004-09-15 Thread Timothy Luoma 
On Sep 14, 2004, at 9:44 PM, Clark Martin wrote:
Or is your primary concern power surges?  If that's the case then, 
yeah, you either put your faith in surge suppressors or unplug it.
Or get a decent UPS unit, not one of those silly little extension cord 
things that calls itself a surge protector (yeah right).

APC has worked well for me, FWIW.
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Re: Capacity of laptop batteries

2004-09-15 Thread Timothy Luoma 
On Sep 14, 2004, at 9:47 PM, Dan K wrote:
I've been using a couple of utilities which very nicely divine lots of
battery information, X-Charge and XBattery. Graphs and logs and stuff
with a proper GUI. None of that arcane grepping stuff for
dumb-as-a-post-lil'-ol'-me!! :-)
Yes, GUIs are quite nice.  Of course with a commandline utility you can 
run it via cron and not have to have an app running all the time if all 
you want is data.

OS X makes things nice for GUI and commandline folks.  Always nice to 
have options.

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Re: Shutting down PBs at night

2004-09-15 Thread Timothy Luoma 
On Sep 15, 2004, at 1:45 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
Just as a thought on this, I'm not in electronics that much but I've 
read a
few times that turning electronic equipment off is sometimes more 
stressful
when you turn them back on because the current that is suddenly 
applied to
the circuits. Don't ask me to explain or elaborate, it's just what 
I've read
and heard a few times...
FWIW this debate has raged on endlessly in many different places.
Some folks leave theirs on all the time, others unplug them when they 
aren't using them, others are somewhere in between.

There are arguments to be made for any.  I think other than turning the 
screen off (not just dimmed but off) there are reasons to believe one 
over the other.

Personally I hate the length of time it takes to cold boot OS X.  I 
leave mine sleeping, but often it is plugged into a 450 APC UPS 
overnight, so I'm not as concerned about the power flux problems.  We 
lived in Florida for 5 years and just about everything except the 
microwave was on a UPS due to the major power storms.

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Re: Free ipods?

2004-09-15 Thread Shane Hartley 
No its not an advertisement...its legitjust type in "free ipod conga" in
google for more info.


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> 
> 
> On Sep 15, 2004, at 2:24 PM, Dan Palka wrote:
> 
>> Was this an advertisement?
> 
> Mail.app thought so.  It called it junk mail.
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> Note the referrer.  The whole thing is a scheme to get more people to
> sign up through your referrer #
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Re: Free ipods?

2004-09-15 Thread geno endicott 
One of my friends and a few guys from TechTV did the freeipods.com thing and it
really worked. But you do have to join. Most people just joined InfoPhone or
whatever it's called, cuz it's free. Then you just have to get 5 other people
to join also. But they all got their iPods.

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Re: Free ipods?

2004-09-15 Thread Timothy Luoma 
On Sep 15, 2004, at 2:24 PM, Dan Palka wrote:
Was this an advertisement?
Mail.app thought so.  It called it junk mail.
Note the referrer.  The whole thing is a scheme to get more people to 
sign up through your referrer #

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Re: Free ipods?

2004-09-15 Thread Marcin Wichary 
Was this an advertisement?
Seems so. Also, the link has a "referer" in it.
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Re: Free ipods?

2004-09-15 Thread Dan Palka 
Was this an advertisement?
On Sep 15, 2004, at 12:51 PM, Shane Hartley wrote:
Just sign up at this link:
http://www.freeiPods.com/default.aspx?referer=8867012
then sign up for one of the offers and then cancel it after a week. My
Brother did it and a couple weeks later an ipod was in the mail! I 
couldnt
believe it!

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Free ipods?

2004-09-15 Thread Shane Hartley 
Just sign up at this link:
http://www.freeiPods.com/default.aspx?referer=8867012


then sign up for one of the offers and then cancel it after a week. My
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Re: Shutting down PBs at night

2004-09-15 Thread Laurent Daudelin 
On 15/09/04 13:33, "Kyle Hansen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 9/14/04 8:09 PM, "Gary Goldberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Spew into the
> Cybertrough:
> 
>> Should they be OUR reasons? Like Donald, I'd like to know if
>> this is a good idea for others
> 
> Leaving a machine sleeping is leaving it in a very limited "on" state.
> Meaning that the power management circuits are charged all the time.  For
> example, in my 17" Powerbook that would leave the Backup Battery Board, the
> DC in Board, the Bluetooth module, and to a certain extent the Logic Board
> constantly under power.  I don't want to risk having to replace any one of
> these parts if the unit gets surged or one wears out more quickly from the
> constant stream of electricity. Whether or not you know or believe this it's
> true; unless you have some special regulator installed at your house (and
> I'll bet none of you do), your electricity is constantly spiking and dipping
> slightly.  This is normal.  Ask any electrician.  Personally, I use a Belkin
> UPS that has AVR (Automatic Voltage Regulation) to clean up the power coming
> into my house from the utility pole.  Things like refrigerators and
> televisions are much more tolerant of line spikes than computers.  I have
> seen a house get surged and nothing was damaged but the iMac, and even
> things plugged into the same power strip are fine...but the iMac couldn't
> handle the rapid and drastic change in voltage.  I also like to have my
> memory heap dumped and temp files unloaded, so I use Macjanitor religiously
> for clean-ups.  
> 
> Apple's stance on the topic is that it's fine to leave your unit on
> 24/7/365.  That's because when your machine breaks you will spend more money
> at Apple and buy a new one.  Apple also considers the Lifetime of a computer
> to be about 18 months,  after that they expect you to upgrade.   So they
> build their machines to last 2-3 years as a minimum.  That way if something
> breaks you will (most likely) be outside of your 1-year warranty period and
> if you paid more money then your Applecare Protection Plan will cover you
> for a total of 3 years from the purchase date.  And I highly recommend an
> APP on any powerbook.  I bought it myself for my own book.  Parts are just
> too pricey for PB's.
> 
> What it really comes down to is this:  My first powerbook was a PB100.  I
> have had PB's throughout the last 17 years, and aside from a faulty PMU in
> my Wallstreet (common and well documented problem at Apple) I have had
> absolutely no problem with any of them doing things the way I do things.  I
> sleep my PB when I am not going to be using it for up to about 6 hours...if
> the span is going to be longer than that I shut it down. I also shut it down
> every night and put it in it's Brenthaven bag to prevent dust from getting
> into it and I regularly open it and clean it.  You can do things the way you
> feel is best, but for example, there is an article in the KBase that
> attributes constant sleeping to problems with the Pismo series.

Just as a thought on this, I'm not in electronics that much but I've read a
few times that turning electronic equipment off is sometimes more stressful
when you turn them back on because the current that is suddenly applied to
the circuits. Don't ask me to explain or elaborate, it's just what I've read
and heard a few times...

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Re: Shutting down PBs at night

2004-09-15 Thread Kyle Hansen 
On 9/14/04 8:09 PM, "Gary Goldberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Spew into the
Cybertrough:

> Should they be OUR reasons? Like Donald, I'd like to know if
> this is a good idea for others

Leaving a machine sleeping is leaving it in a very limited "on" state.
Meaning that the power management circuits are charged all the time.  For
example, in my 17" Powerbook that would leave the Backup Battery Board, the
DC in Board, the Bluetooth module, and to a certain extent the Logic Board
constantly under power.  I don't want to risk having to replace any one of
these parts if the unit gets surged or one wears out more quickly from the
constant stream of electricity. Whether or not you know or believe this it's
true; unless you have some special regulator installed at your house (and
I'll bet none of you do), your electricity is constantly spiking and dipping
slightly.  This is normal.  Ask any electrician.  Personally, I use a Belkin
UPS that has AVR (Automatic Voltage Regulation) to clean up the power coming
into my house from the utility pole.  Things like refrigerators and
televisions are much more tolerant of line spikes than computers.  I have
seen a house get surged and nothing was damaged but the iMac, and even
things plugged into the same power strip are fine...but the iMac couldn't
handle the rapid and drastic change in voltage.  I also like to have my
memory heap dumped and temp files unloaded, so I use Macjanitor religiously
for clean-ups.  

Apple's stance on the topic is that it's fine to leave your unit on
24/7/365.  That's because when your machine breaks you will spend more money
at Apple and buy a new one.  Apple also considers the Lifetime of a computer
to be about 18 months,  after that they expect you to upgrade.   So they
build their machines to last 2-3 years as a minimum.  That way if something
breaks you will (most likely) be outside of your 1-year warranty period and
if you paid more money then your Applecare Protection Plan will cover you
for a total of 3 years from the purchase date.  And I highly recommend an
APP on any powerbook.  I bought it myself for my own book.  Parts are just
too pricey for PB's.

What it really comes down to is this:  My first powerbook was a PB100.  I
have had PB's throughout the last 17 years, and aside from a faulty PMU in
my Wallstreet (common and well documented problem at Apple) I have had
absolutely no problem with any of them doing things the way I do things.  I
sleep my PB when I am not going to be using it for up to about 6 hours...if
the span is going to be longer than that I shut it down. I also shut it down
every night and put it in it's Brenthaven bag to prevent dust from getting
into it and I regularly open it and clean it.  You can do things the way you
feel is best, but for example, there is an article in the KBase that
attributes constant sleeping to problems with the Pismo series.

Kyle H. Hansen
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Re: Dead Combo Drive

2004-09-15 Thread csean 
on 15/09/2004 03:25, G-Books at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: "CJ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Dead Combo Drive
> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 17:53:37 -0500
> 
> I've just received an iBook/500 (dual usb).  The computer came with a dead
> combo drive.  Does anyone know where I can receive a new one for cheap?  I
> have enough technical skills to install it myself.

Check out the oft-mentioned xlr8yourmac Database under Drive Compatibility,
then your model of iBook and Combo (drive type).

IIRC the iBooks used a Toshiba drive, so may be best to look for one of
those. Though it wasn't the original model (as it's newer and faster), the
SD-R2512 comes to mind, as I've seen it on ebay in Europe for approx. 50-60
Euro new, on ebay in the US I think it's around $75 from legit sellers.
Check xlr8yourmac for this and other Toshiba models, and don't forget to see
how they did with swapping the Bezel from the original drive onto the new
one.

Good luck.
Chris


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Re: Shutting down PBs at night

2004-09-15 Thread Tom Ethen 
Since I live in the Midwest and we have electrical storms quite often, I see
no reason to tempt fate by leaving my laptop on or even plugged in when not
in use. I sometime let them sleep when I travel so I can access the laptop
quickly when I need to, but even then I turn it off more often than not.

Tom


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Re: Shutting down PBs at night

2004-09-15 Thread Clark Martin 
At 7:54 PM -0700 9/14/04, Kyle Hansen wrote:
On 9/14/04 6:45 PM, "Clark Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Spew into the
Cybertrough:
 Afraid the black helicopters are going to read your Myst scores
 through the power line Kyle?  :)
H ha ha.  I play BF 1942 and CoD.  Myst is for those over 40.
S.  I hear a rotor.  Where is my tin foil hat???
No Myst here.  My preferred cyber-mayhem is Marathon, et al.
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Pismo Battery Won't Charge

2004-09-15 Thread Charles Estabrooks 
The yoyo adapter on my Pismo recently broke at the connector to the 
book.  Toward the end I had to wiggle the skinny wire to make contact, 
but instead of the standard icon with the lightening bolt which 
indicates battery charging, OS X shows a battery icon with an 
electrical plug, and the battery never seemed to take a charge. It 
remains always at 0%. I bought a replacement on the Swap list (one of 
the black kind), with no change.  I zapped the PRAM, pressed the reset 
button on the back, and even went through the Open Firmware reset 
procedure, but I get no battery charging.  I even booted into OS9 to 
see if it was an OS thing, but no difference.  Is it possible I burned 
something out using the bad adapter, or is there a way to reset this 
battery charging thing?

Thanks,
Charles
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Re: Designated Drivel on Dead Drives

2004-09-15 Thread Bob 
The National Enquirer reports at 1:45 AM -0400 9/15/04, Barton Brown wrote:


I was initially going to post a "don't expect much help from now on" 
message. But I saw several others and didn't think I would add 
anything by posting another one. But after the last two diatribes 
from Mr. Brown, none of his future messages will make it past my 
trash filter. I don't know about the rest of you.



Bob

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