Re: best browser for ebay downloads of pages, pictures?

2006-02-06 Thread Tim Hodgson
On Sun, Feb 5, 2006 at 11:28 pm -0500, Donald Keenan wrote:

I use Mozilla. (For some reason I have had no success in installing 
Firefox on my Jaguar susyetm. I just pulses in and out of the dock, but 
never launches and it won't quit the dock.). 

Have you tried:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser_will_not_start_up#Firefox_.28Mac_OS_X.
29_fails_to_start

TimH


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Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

2006-02-06 Thread darm0k

At 10:32 AM -0500 02/03/2006, Kurt Cypher wrote:


yes, there are lazy programmers out there


I miss the days of hauling three racks of cards up and down two 
flights of stairs, from my desk to the machine room and back, each 
time I had a run to do.  It kept us codespinners in good shape!


Of course, we had to be careful.  We had to get someone to check the 
stairwell first - because if we got caught carrying more than one box 
(1/3 rack) then the labor union would hit us with a grievance for not 
using a Mover...


- Dan.

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Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

2006-02-06 Thread darm0k

At 12:25 AM -0500 02/03/2006, phoenix wrote:


Lazy programmers and feature creep. Having worked for a software
development firm, I can tell you these are the two biggest reasons we have
such Big Fat Hairy programs out there today.


I have to disagree.

It's not laziness - it's incompetence.

Back in the day, programmers were Engineers - they actually had 4 or 
6 year Computer Science educations from college.  They actually knew 
how to design or select efficient algorithms.


Except for a few, these days, programming is mostly a job-shop 
situation, populated by geek-wannabees that have no clue how to even 
open a book.  If they have a 2 year degree, it's amazing.  And the 
chances of even those having ever cracked open a copy of Knuth[*] is 
near Zero.



[*] The Art of Computer Programming, a multi-volume book set by Don 
Knuth.  The true bible of codespinning.


- Dan.
  //You used a bubble sort for what?//

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Re: Shiira

2006-02-06 Thread Howard Katz
Just wondering what other people's results are using Shiira--but it
doesn't seem too stable on my PB--it keeps bombing, and I keep having
to do a restart.   The bombs are on a variety of pages--I haven't
found any pattern that I can tell, from the few days I'vebeen tryihng
it.

 It's a nice interface, but if it doesn't want to play nice on my
machine, I'm going to go back to iCab and  FireFox.

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Re: Shiira

2006-02-06 Thread Howard Katz
Interesting.  I'm running 10.4.4 also and keep having problems.


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Re: Shiira

2006-02-06 Thread Geoffrey Peters

Stardate 060206.10:53 -0800. A subspace message from Peter Webster reads:


It's as stable as it can be on my iBook 1.2, sys 10.4.4.


I couldn't even get it to launch, just a flicker in the Dock. (G3/300, 10.3.9)

(Don't laugh, this platinum beast still does everything I need from a 
computer!)



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Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

2006-02-06 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Feb 6, 2006, at 10:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


At 12:25 AM -0500 02/03/2006, phoenix wrote:


Lazy programmers and feature creep. Having worked for a software
development firm, I can tell you these are the two biggest reasons  
we have

such Big Fat Hairy programs out there today.


I have to disagree.

It's not laziness - it's incompetence.

Back in the day, programmers were Engineers - they actually had 4  
or 6 year Computer Science educations from college.  They actually  
knew how to design or select efficient algorithms.




And back in the day, 99% of them never had to deal with a GUI, or  
were even thinking of doing something on the order of Photoshop.  
Efficient algorithms are SUCH a tiny part of programming todays  
applications that it's not even funny.


Blaming it on incompetence is merely the lazy way out...software is a  
LOT more complex today than it was in the day...if you don't think  
so, feel free to go back to using an Apple II for your day to day  
use, and see how far you get.


Me, I'm glad we have the BFH programs of today...they let me do *my*  
job more efficiently, which is  vastly more important than letting my  
computer do it's job more efficiently. Buying more hardware to do  
that is not even a problem. Hardware is cheap and amortizable. Human  
capital isn't.


This isn't an excuse for sloppy programming or feature creep, both of  
which are huge   factors in why Office is now 300MB instead of 300KB,  
but there's also the fact that 300MB today costs a fraction of what  
300K did then.


They concentrated on efficiency then, because they had to.

ALL engineering is constrained by one simple adage: Fast, Cheap,  
Good: choose any two with the Jobs corollary Real Programmers Ship.


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This is the sig who says 'Ni!'


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Re: Shiira

2006-02-06 Thread Der Mickster
Well, it says it's not Jaguar-compliant, so . . . Does anyone know
whether a 10.2-friendly version is available?

Brgds,

Mick.

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Re: Shiira

2006-02-06 Thread Michael Cangelosi


Well, it says it's not Jaguar-compliant, so . . . Does anyone know
whether a 10.2-friendly version is available?

Brgds,

Mick.



There is and likely will not be a compliant version

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Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

2006-02-06 Thread darm0k

At 6:04 AM +1100 02/07/2006, Geoffrey Peters wrote:


These days, I'm so anti-commandline, I delete Terminal.app from all 
my OSX installs.


Ouch.  There are so many iface problems with Aqua and Finder, Teminal 
is an essential app IMO.



 //You used a bubble sort for what?//


... and mention hashing to any of these young jackanapes and they 
think you're an old stoner who hasn't let go yet ;)


I was interviewing a consultant.  He was bragging about using a 
bubble on the indices to a database of over 6m elements.  I gave him 
a big thumbs down - and the company hired him anyway.


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Re: Shiira

2006-02-06 Thread Geoffrey Peters

Stardate 060206.17:12 -0500. A subspace message from Michael Cangelosi reads:


Well, it says it's not Jaguar-compliant, so . . . Does anyone know
whether a 10.2-friendly version is available?



There is and likely will not be a compliant version


Damn futurists ... I still like iCab, which until very recently still 
officially supported System 7.1.



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Re: Wegener Media

2006-02-06 Thread Herbert Goodfriend
And, as far as relevant questions: What can anyone tell me about 
Wegener Media and the service they provide?


I purchased a used Lombard from them a couple of years ago. It 
arrived with some non-working keys on the keyboard.


I exchanged it for another keyboard which also had non-working keys. 
The third time they got it right, but each exchange took at least a 
month.


I had to conclude that either they were incredibly slipshod (how hard 
is it to check out a keyboard?) or they knowingly sent me defective 
merchandise and were hoping I wouldn't keep after them to correct the 
problem. I have not done business with them since.


Herb Goodfriend

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Re: Wegener Media

2006-02-06 Thread PeterH5322

I had to conclude that either they were incredibly slipshod (how hard 
is it to check out a keyboard?) or they knowingly sent me defective 
merchandise and were hoping I wouldn't keep after them to correct the 
problem. I have not done business with them since.

Nor have I.


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Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

2006-02-06 Thread Geoffrey Peters

Stardate 060206.17:19 -0500. A subspace message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] reads:


 These days, I'm so anti-commandline, I delete Terminal.app from all my OSX
 installs.



 Ouch.  There are so many iface problems with Aqua and Finder, Teminal is an
 essential app IMO.


Depends on what you do. OSX Finder sucks mouldy goat-sacks through a 
small straw ... which is why I'm still in MacOS 8.6 about 70% of the 
time ... which is why my main Mac is still a platinum G3/300. if it 
ain't broke, don't fix it :)


(Mind you, I miss my old PowerCenter, it was quite nice being able to 
run System 7.6.1 at 450 MHz ... alas, the MESH chip died.)



 I was interviewing a consultant.  He was bragging about using a bubble on
 the indices to a database of over 6m elements.  I gave him a big thumbs down
 - and the company hired him anyway.


Let me guess, he also convinced them that ASP was a Very Good Move ;)


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Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

2006-02-06 Thread Peter Webster
Hmm. I worked on the project that put SPSS together. Cards. Stacks of  
cards. Hated keying those cards; probably two bad ones for every one  
that came out right. Big IBM 360/67 in a building the size of  
gymnasium. One day, I loaded a stack in, went into the snack bar, put  
in change for a coke, pushed the button and the whole bloody system  
crashed. I was almost convinced I'd caused it. When the system was up  
again, at least a week later, all our data was interspersed with data  
from the Stanford Hospital... Sat through hours of classes in Fortran  
IV. The project finally moved on to the University of Chicago; I was  
invited to go, too, but then I watched the riots at the Chicago  
Democratic Convention and decided that was one of the last places I  
wanted to go.


Never touched another computer until I got my hands on my sister's  
Mac Classic. 


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Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

2006-02-06 Thread Howard Katz
We still use SPSS here at the college I work at part-time, Peter--had
it on Apple II floppy, and then migrated to the IBM versions.  Your
legacy lives on.  :)


Later.Howard

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Re: Shiira

2006-02-06 Thread Jerry Buc


On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:45 PM, Howard Katz wrote:


Just wondering what other people's results are using Shiira--but it
doesn't seem too stable on my PB--it keeps bombing, and I keep having
to do a restart.   The bombs are on a variety of pages--I haven't
found any pattern that I can tell, from the few days I'vebeen tryihng
it.

 It's a nice interface, but if it doesn't want to play nice on my
machine, I'm going to go back to iCab and  FireFox.

Later..Howard


No problems with G4 Yikes, OS 10.3.9. Seems significantly faster than  
Firefox.
One criticism;  typing in a Member I.D.,  hit tab to advance to  
Password box, the cursor does not advance and I.D entry is deleted .

Also haven't figured out how to set auto entry on I.D.s and Passwords.
Jerry

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Re: [OT] The old days [Was:Re: Reminder: LowEndMac lists rules]

2006-02-06 Thread Peter Webster
I have a friend at Portland State, and she used it for a class.  
Almost dropped her teeth when I told her I'd worked on the original.  
Ugh: scattergraphs!


On Feb 6, 2006, at 4:50 PM, Howard Katz wrote:


We still use SPSS here at the college I work at part-time, Peter--had
it on Apple II floppy, and then migrated to the IBM versions.  Your
legacy lives on.  :)


Later.Howard

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Re: Wegener Media = BAD--just my opinion

2006-02-06 Thread Illovox Media
They donĀ¹t even get the little orders right.  And if you get serious, they
think they can bully you with legalese, all of which is BS.  Always use a
credit card in online transactions.  A CC WILL refund all expenses with a
deal gone bad and nail the seller with the tab.  FTC guidelines are
available online as well


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Re: Wegener Media

2006-02-06 Thread PeterH5322

In a message dated 2/6/06 6:12:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 And if you get serious, they think they can bully you with legalese, all of 
 which is BS.
 
Wegener, himself, filed a statement with false claims with a Listmom, 
claiming, in turn, that my claims were false, and resulting in me getting 
banned from 
a List.

It's almost as if Wegener is a relative of Karl Rove, as Wegener's 
bullying 
(and lying) techniques are similar to Rove's.

I believe, based upon first-hand experience, that it is Wegener, himself, 
not 
Wegener Media's employees which is the problem.

Wegener likely has bullied his employees, too, much as he's bullied his 
customers.

In Wegener Media's defense, I did have ONE transaction which went OK. 
But, 
this transaction was processed without Wegener's interference.

I'm 100 percent satisfied with Wegener Media transactions which do not 
involve Wegener, himself; and 100 percent dissatisfied with Wegener Media 
transactions which do involve Wegener, himself.

Just another data point on the continuum of good and bad experiences.

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Re: Wegener Media

2006-02-06 Thread Van Snyder
I'll admit I'm surprised by this thread... I ordered a set of feet for
a Pismo and a trayload CDROM for an early iBook.  A set of feet for a
TiBook and the CDROM arrived very promptly.  I called them on the feet
and a set of feet for the Pismo arrived two days later.  Very
surprised that they have apparently made trouble with so many of you.

On 2/6/06, Garry Hamblin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have had a number of  transactions with Wegener Media, all of which
 went smoothly, except one.  I think that particular bad experience
 could have happened with any other retailer.  Their service was quick
 and anytime I needed support they were prompt.  I'd do business with
 them again.

 Garry Hamblin
 Saskatoon
 On 6-Feb-06, at 8:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  In a message dated 2/6/06 6:12:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  And if you get serious, they think they can bully you with legalese,
  all of
  which is BS.
 
  Wegener, himself, filed a statement with false claims with a Listmom,
  claiming, in turn, that my claims were false, and resulting in me
  getting
  banned from
  a List.
 
  It's almost as if Wegener is a relative of Karl Rove, as Wegener's
  bullying
  (and lying) techniques are similar to Rove's.
 
  I believe, based upon first-hand experience, that it is Wegener,
  himself,
  not
  Wegener Media's employees which is the problem.
 
  Wegener likely has bullied his employees, too, much as he's bullied his
  customers.
 
  In Wegener Media's defense, I did have ONE transaction which went OK.
  But,
  this transaction was processed without Wegener's interference.
 
  I'm 100 percent satisfied with Wegener Media transactions which do not
  involve Wegener, himself; and 100 percent dissatisfied with Wegener
  Media
  transactions which do involve Wegener, himself.
 
  Just another data point on the continuum of good and bad experiences.
 
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Bluetooth Q

2006-02-06 Thread David Rodriguez
I've got a bluetooth question for someone knowledgeable.  I am using  
a G4 Ti book.   I'd like to have a better voip connection with Skype  
and go 'wireless' .   So I have been contemplating acquiring a  
bluetooth headset and bluetooth USB adapter.


My question is this.  Most of the bluetooth earpieces out there are  
bluetooth Version 1, which gives a 33' distance, but there are some  
bluetooth V. 2 adapters out there that work at 66'.   So if the V2  
adapter is transmitting at  66', will the V.1 earpiece work at that  
distance or be limited to 33'?  Not to confuse Bluetooth version with  
USB versions.


I suppose the V.2 earpieces won't be long before introduction so I  
could wait, but the price is right now for V.1 earpieces.


The other variable I may have is that I only have USB 1.1 on my book,  
unless I use a USB 2.0 Cardbus (which I have) and plug into that.  So  
not sure if I may get a bottleneck with the factory usb speed but  
that's another issue.


TIA

Dave

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Re: Bluetooth Q

2006-02-06 Thread Van Snyder
Hey Dave -

If you decide to try a current headset, I have a Plantronics BT320
that is brand new (my mother in law wanted one and then realized her
phone didn't have Bt.  I use this same headset daily with my cell
phone and have found it to work very well and it is comfortable.

$32 shipped to your door.

any luck selling your Lombard?

let me know -
--Van

On 2/6/06, David Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've got a bluetooth question for someone knowledgeable.  I am using
 a G4 Ti book.   I'd like to have a better voip connection with Skype
 and go 'wireless' .   So I have been contemplating acquiring a
 bluetooth headset and bluetooth USB adapter.

 My question is this.  Most of the bluetooth earpieces out there are
 bluetooth Version 1, which gives a 33' distance, but there are some
 bluetooth V. 2 adapters out there that work at 66'.   So if the V2
 adapter is transmitting at  66', will the V.1 earpiece work at that
 distance or be limited to 33'?  Not to confuse Bluetooth version with
 USB versions.

 I suppose the V.2 earpieces won't be long before introduction so I
 could wait, but the price is right now for V.1 earpieces.

 The other variable I may have is that I only have USB 1.1 on my book,
 unless I use a USB 2.0 Cardbus (which I have) and plug into that.  So
 not sure if I may get a bottleneck with the factory usb speed but
 that's another issue.

 TIA

 Dave

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Re: Bluetooth Q

2006-02-06 Thread Van Snyder
Yeah - that was intended to Dave off list... my apologies to the list.
 Now I'll crawl into my cave.

On 2/6/06, Van Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Dave -

 If you decide to try a current headset, I have a Plantronics BT320
 that is brand new (my mother in law wanted one and then realized her
 phone didn't have Bt.  I use this same headset daily with my cell
 phone and have found it to work very well and it is comfortable.

 $32 shipped to your door.

 any luck selling your Lombard?

 let me know -
 --Van

 On 2/6/06, David Rodriguez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've got a bluetooth question for someone knowledgeable.  I am using
  a G4 Ti book.   I'd like to have a better voip connection with Skype
  and go 'wireless' .   So I have been contemplating acquiring a
  bluetooth headset and bluetooth USB adapter.
 
  My question is this.  Most of the bluetooth earpieces out there are
  bluetooth Version 1, which gives a 33' distance, but there are some
  bluetooth V. 2 adapters out there that work at 66'.   So if the V2
  adapter is transmitting at  66', will the V.1 earpiece work at that
  distance or be limited to 33'?  Not to confuse Bluetooth version with
  USB versions.
 
  I suppose the V.2 earpieces won't be long before introduction so I
  could wait, but the price is right now for V.1 earpieces.
 
  The other variable I may have is that I only have USB 1.1 on my book,
  unless I use a USB 2.0 Cardbus (which I have) and plug into that.  So
  not sure if I may get a bottleneck with the factory usb speed but
  that's another issue.
 
  TIA
 
  Dave
 
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