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Re: Dead Pismo

2005-01-16 Thread CHARLES RICHARDS

Good morning all. I used the old paperclip method and opened the CD  
drive and inserted the Restore CD and hit the power key and the system  
booted up to OS9. The battery shows one light and so I tried to boot up  
from the internal HD which has OS 10.3.6 . I get the big apple no  
spinning wheel and it just hangs with the big apple showing.
I get the usual start up sound as well.
After waiting 5min or so, I give up and press the power  
key+apple+control to restart holding down the "C" key to start again  
from the Restore CD and it will do this. How frustrating. Any  
suggestions any one?


The other thing to consider would be the PMU.  I'm thinking about all  
the components that have to do with power management.  The PMU and/or  
the Sound Card are the most likely culprits of your problem.  I'm not  
so sure that the logic board would be at fault.  That's not to say  
that it couldn't be but...
As for the PMU, it is separate from the mb.  Follow this link to see a  
picture of it:   
http://www.powerbookmedic.com/Power___Charger_PMU_Battery_Board_Pismo- 
p-16137.html
It is on slide 22 at the 'take apart' link I sent you yesterday.

There is this from xlr8yourmac.com about the PMU reset:
...Most often it is due to a dead cell in the backup battery, or just  
a corrupted PMU. The problem is that you can't reset the PMU correctly  
from a dead backup battery. You can zap the PMU, which will get the  
backup battery charging again. Then reset it in a few hours when the  
battery has some charge. The steps are below.
If this doesn't correct it, then they most likely have a bad (not just  
dead, but bad cell) battery that is corrupting the PMU on its own. The  
first suggested fix is an accurate set of PMU resets as follows.

 RESETTING THE PMU
 A corrupted PMU (Power Management Unit) board can cause many  
sleep/startup issues.
 The PMU is the Power Management Unity of the system. When the  
batteries are completely drained, draining too fast, or a battery with  
a bad cell exists, or if the AC adapter is unplugged from the wall,  
but left connected to the PowerBook, the PMU can become corrupted
 If the internal motherboard backup battery has become completely  
drained, then a 2nd PMU reset will be needed about 4 hours after the  
1st PMU reset and the system has been plugged in for at least an hour  
(once the motherboard battery has enough power to reset the PMU  
properly). The first reset (due to a dead MB battery) wipes the PMU.  
The second reset (using the charged MB battery) rewrites the PMU with  
long-term firmware.
 Before resetting the PMU, check all connections. If possible. Put the  
system to sleep and insert a known good battery, then test.
 Reset the PMU as follows:
 Unplug the AC from the PowerBook.
 Eject the battery(s).
 Depress the PowerBook reset switch ONE TIME (in the back by the  
modem, marked by a white triangle).
 Wait 10 seconds.
 Replug the AC.
 Reinsert the Battery.
 Restart the system.
 After the system has had about 4 hours of "plugged in" time, repeat  
the PMU reset as outlined above. This will rewrite the correct PMU  
code using the trickle from the motherboard battery's charge to do the  
writing.
 If the system still does not charge/drain/startup correctly. You can  
try a hard motherboard reset. Follow the same instructions above, but  
after #2, lift the keyboard and unplug the motherboard battery (lower  
right above CD bay, three wire connector), wait 10 minutes then  
proceed. After running for an hour on AC, do a normal PMU reset.
 Best regards,
 Gary Dailey
 DaystarTechnology.com "
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Re: Dead Pismo

2005-01-15 Thread CHARLES RICHARDS

OK, I have just purchased the PMU card, and will try that first. It 
sounds like you have experienced the same thing I am having. Glad to 
hear from you. I will let you know how it comes out after receiving and 
installing the PMU.

Charlie
On Saturday, January 15, 2005, at 08:31  AM, CHARLES RICHARDS wrote:
Thanks again James, I have placed an order for the logic board, so 
when it comes in I will look over the connections carefully.
I do have an additional question for you. Is the power management of 
the pismo on a PC card to itself? I may need to change it out if so 
first.

If you are dead in the water, so to speak, it would seem a power 
issue (duh).  So, you may want to check the sound card as it is 
where the power adaptor connects to the computer.  A take apart 
slide show can be found here:  
http://homepage.mac.com/sysop/PhotoAlbum7.html

I am suprised that there haven't been more suggestions.
OK, sorry to come into this so late, but I have been traveling... 
However, immediately before I left I was inside my lombard because it 
would no longer power on. just dead in the water.. I have the 
service manual and the flow chart states...

Replace the power supply card first, (which is the card below the 
track pad that the battery's plug in to) and if that doesn't fix it, 
then to replace the sound card which is where the AC cord plugs 
in. I will say it's a long battle to the inside of the machine 
you even need to remove the display to do it..

When I did this with my lombard the PS card didn't seem to help and 
immediately after replacing the sound card I got no results, but after 
waiting over night, when I put in a battery it started up no problems 
and I am back to using it again. :-)
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Re: Dead Pismo

2005-01-15 Thread CHARLES RICHARDS

Thanks again James, I have placed an order for the logic board, so when 
it comes in I will look over the connections carefully.
I do have an additional question for you. Is the power management of 
the pismo on a PC card to itself? I may need to change it out if so 
first.

Chrlie
If you are dead in the water, so to speak, it would seem a power issue 
(duh).  So, you may want to check the sound card as it is where the 
power adaptor connects to the computer.  A take apart slide show can 
be found here:  http://homepage.mac.com/sysop/PhotoAlbum7.html
It seems that this is a place to start since the Pismo booted, then 
panicked, and failed to restart.  Moreover, you're not getting 
anything anywhere, not even a hint that the power is connected, 
battery or A/C.  Perhaps while you're in the innards you should check 
the connexions, making sure they are secure.

I am suprised that there haven't been more suggestions.
HTH
J Sanderson
On 14 Jan 2005, at 15:38, CHARLES RICHARDS wrote:
I tried resetting the PMU according to the instructions found at 
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449, after waiting 
for several seconds (more than five) I tried to boot up. Nothing. Any 
other suggestions. Incidentally I have nothing active or on in any 
external ports.

Charlie
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Re: Dead Pismo

2005-01-14 Thread CHARLES RICHARDS

I tried resetting the PMU according to the instructions found at 
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449, after waiting for 
several seconds (more than five) I tried to boot up. Nothing. Any other 
suggestions. Incidentally I have nothing active or on in any external 
ports.

Charlie
On 13 Jan 2005, at 15:52, John C. Swanson wrote:
got a message to hold
down the start up button for several seconds.
IIRC, this is a kernal panic induced by who knows what.  This happened 
on my WS I while I had a USB card installed.  I was able to restart 
after removing it.  But, no doubt your situation is different.
I think I'd start with a reset of the PMU.  That fixed a boot issue 
with one WS I worked on.  The PMU was eventually replaced along with 
the PRAM battery.  This solved a number of issues on that comp...
To reset the PMU go to this page: 
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=14449
Try this.  Also, you probably should try to start up from the CD and 
repair permissions, etc.

HTH
J Sanderson
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Re: Dead Pismo

2005-01-13 Thread CHARLES RICHARDS


I just thought of something else no lights come on the battery when  
inserted. Do you think the problem can be with the power unit(?).

Charlie


No, can you advise how to, and thanks for the quick response.
Charlie
On 13/01/05 14:33, "Charlie Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My Pismo wont boot up, system is powered with AC adapater as well as
having the M7318 battery inserted and charging (?) I have replaced  
the
PRAM battery, still no luck. I tried my other M7318 battery hit the
startup button, got the startup tone and a apple showed up on the
screen, but no turning pancake. After a while got a message to hold
down the start up button for several seconds. This did shut it down,
but I cannot boot up.
Any suggestion?
Have you tried resetting the PMU?
-Laurent.
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Re: Dead Pismo

2005-01-13 Thread CHARLES RICHARDS

I wish I could start from the CD but I can not get power up to boot, 
even though I have a good battery inserted and also the AC adapter on.

CA
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From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charlie
Richards
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 14:34
To: G-Books
Subject: Dead Pismo
My Pismo wont boot up, system is powered with AC adapater as well as
having the M7318 battery inserted and charging (?) I have replaced the
PRAM battery, still no luck. I tried my other M7318 battery hit the
startup button, got the startup tone and a apple showed up on the
screen, but no turning pancake. After a while got a message to hold
down the start up button for several seconds. This did shut it down,
but I cannot boot up.
Any suggestion?

If I understand correctly the system powers on but doesn't boot into 
the
operating system.  First, if you haven't, I would recommend resetting
the PRAM (hold command-option-P-R for at least 3 'bongs.')

Then try resetting the defaults in open firmware.  Hold
Command-Option-O-F at boot.  Type reset-nvram and press return.  Type
reset-all and press return.
If that doesn't work it sounds like the OS is corrupted or the hard
drive is bad.  I would recommend starting up from your OS CD or a drive
utility and checking the disk.
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