Re: Clamshell CD-Rom problems

2005-06-11 Thread Dan O'Donnell


On Jun 10, 2005, at 9:15 PM, Jim Katz wrote:

Oh well, the decision seems to have been taken out of my hands.  Did 
manage
to reinstall the system  - probably with the workaround suggested, but 
then
discovered the logic board is also not working.  I don't understand 
how it
happened - she put it to sleep unplugged it - carried it (carefully) 
down a
flight of stairs, and woke it up at the bottom. Suddenly no internet, 
no

CD-Rom.  I guess there is no chance to fix this all within a reasonable
budget.  What new model do you recommend for someone who loved her 
original

model clamshell to death?


Replace it with a modern iBook?

And you might be able to sell that dead iBook for parts on eBay or CL. 
Though the m'board and CD are apparently not working, the screen is 
still good as is the case.

JMHO.

DOD


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Clamshell CD-Rom problems

2005-06-10 Thread Jim Katz
My wife's original blue clamshell iBook just went wonky, suddenly deciding
it does not have an airport card and unable to access the CD-Rom drive,
which spins up but does not read.  Booting is also unreliable.  The Apple
tech says I have to buy a new CD-Rom before anything else can be done as it
is defective. USB only on this machine, no firewire.  My questions:  Is
there any workaround to boot from an external HD or something like that with
this machine?  Any other way to load a new system besides the internal
CD-Rom drive?  In other words, any way to avoid many $100s of expense?

Thanks,

Jim


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Re: Clamshell CD-Rom problems

2005-06-10 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 10/06/05 08:48, Jim Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My wife's original blue clamshell iBook just went wonky, suddenly deciding
 it does not have an airport card and unable to access the CD-Rom drive,
 which spins up but does not read.  Booting is also unreliable.  The Apple
 tech says I have to buy a new CD-Rom before anything else can be done as it
 is defective. USB only on this machine, no firewire.  My questions:  Is
 there any workaround to boot from an external HD or something like that with
 this machine?  Any other way to load a new system besides the internal
 CD-Rom drive?  In other words, any way to avoid many $100s of expense?

I'm sorry, Jim, but I don't think there is any other way around it. You
can't boot from USB and since you don't have FireWire, not target disk mode.

What you could do would be to pull the hard drive and put it into an
external USB or FireWire enclosure. Then, use another Mac to install a
system on it if you can.

I would also imagine that you should be able to find a CD-ROM replacement
for far less than $100 on that model.

-Laurent.
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Re: Clamshell CD-Rom problems

2005-06-10 Thread Van Snyder
wegenermedia.com has factory new drives for ~$70 and pbfixit.com has a
nice complete step-by-step procedure outlined.  I just did it for my
sister-in-law and it went very smoothly.  eBay might have somewhat
better prices, but when I was looking, they were ~$50 shipped for a
used drive.

Good luck - Laurent's solution might be the best, sinking $70 into
your clamshell might sting - depending on what your expectations are
for the future.

--Van

On 6/10/05, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/06/05 08:48, Jim Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My wife's original blue clamshell iBook just went wonky, suddenly deciding
  it does not have an airport card and unable to access the CD-Rom drive,
  which spins up but does not read.  Booting is also unreliable.  The Apple
  tech says I have to buy a new CD-Rom before anything else can be done as it
  is defective. USB only on this machine, no firewire.  My questions:  Is
  there any workaround to boot from an external HD or something like that with
  this machine?  Any other way to load a new system besides the internal
  CD-Rom drive?  In other words, any way to avoid many $100s of expense?
 
 I'm sorry, Jim, but I don't think there is any other way around it. You
 can't boot from USB and since you don't have FireWire, not target disk mode.
 
 What you could do would be to pull the hard drive and put it into an
 external USB or FireWire enclosure. Then, use another Mac to install a
 system on it if you can.
 
 I would also imagine that you should be able to find a CD-ROM replacement
 for far less than $100 on that model.
 
 -Laurent.
 --
 
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Re: Clamshell CD-Rom problems

2005-06-10 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 10/06/05 10:25, Van Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 wegenermedia.com has factory new drives for ~$70 and pbfixit.com has a
 nice complete step-by-step procedure outlined.  I just did it for my
 sister-in-law and it went very smoothly.  eBay might have somewhat
 better prices, but when I was looking, they were ~$50 shipped for a
 used drive.
 
 Good luck - Laurent's solution might be the best, sinking $70 into
 your clamshell might sting - depending on what your expectations are
 for the future.

Good advice, Van. Personally, I would take the plunge for the replacement
drive. Might not be very convenient to pull the drive everytime you need to
install or fix something on it when the laptop can't boot. Plus, if you do
that a few times, you risk breaking something inside the Lombard, which
would be unfortunate...

-Laurent.
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Re: Clamshell CD-Rom problems

2005-06-10 Thread Jim Katz
Oh well, the decision seems to have been taken out of my hands.  Did manage
to reinstall the system  - probably with the workaround suggested, but then
discovered the logic board is also not working.  I don't understand how it
happened - she put it to sleep unplugged it - carried it (carefully) down a
flight of stairs, and woke it up at the bottom. Suddenly no internet, no
CD-Rom.  I guess there is no chance to fix this all within a reasonable
budget.  What new model do you recommend for someone who loved her original
model clamshell to death?

Jim

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 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:20:22 -0400
 Subject: Re: Clamshell CD-Rom  problems
 From: Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On 10/06/05 08:48, Jim Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 My wife's original blue clamshell iBook just went wonky, suddenly deciding
 it does not have an airport card and unable to access the CD-Rom drive,
 which spins up but does not read.  Booting is also unreliable.  The Apple
 tech says I have to buy a new CD-Rom before anything else can be done as it
 is defective. USB only on this machine, no firewire.  My questions:  Is
 there any workaround to boot from an external HD or something like that with
 this machine?  Any other way to load a new system besides the internal
 CD-Rom drive?  In other words, any way to avoid many $100s of expense?
 
 I'm sorry, Jim, but I don't think there is any other way around it. You
 can't boot from USB and since you don't have FireWire, not target disk mode.
 
 What you could do would be to pull the hard drive and put it into an
 external USB or FireWire enclosure. Then, use another Mac to install a
 system on it if you can.
 
 I would also imagine that you should be able to find a CD-ROM replacement
 for far less than $100 on that model.
 
 -Laurent.
 -- 
 
 Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA
  Usual disclaimers apply ***
 
 
 --
 
 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 09:25:42 -0500
 From: Van Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Clamshell CD-Rom  problems
 In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 wegenermedia.com has factory new drives for ~$70 and pbfixit.com has a
 nice complete step-by-step procedure outlined.  I just did it for my
 sister-in-law and it went very smoothly.  eBay might have somewhat
 better prices, but when I was looking, they were ~$50 shipped for a
 used drive.
 
 Good luck - Laurent's solution might be the best, sinking $70 into
 your clamshell might sting - depending on what your expectations are
 for the future.


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