Re: Ebay G5 query

2004-02-27 Thread Dan K
LOL, having now read through this thread from its start I've noticed 
no-one here has offered up an explanation of how this (obvious) scam 
actually works.

Can it be no lister has popped for one of these 'deals'??

Or is it possibly the case that any lister niave enough to have popped 
for one is still somehow savvy enough to _not_admit_ to it here. G

BTW, this topic is rather _on-topic_. Similar ads form an overly largish 
percentage of eBay's PB-area listings as well. Any lister interested in 
purchasing a recent 'Book from eBay should be aware of their existence, 
forwarned being fore-armed and all that . . .

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Re: Ebay G5 query

2004-02-27 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Feb 27, 2004, at 1:54 PM, Dan K wrote:

LOL, having now read through this thread from its start I've noticed
no-one here has offered up an explanation of how this (obvious) scam
actually works.
Can it be no lister has popped for one of these 'deals'??
Last year there was a lister who lost $1200 on a 'discounted' new 
TiBook in a similar deal.

The scam is that for the $235 'fee' you're put in touch with someone 
who purports to be clearing property from a failed business, a 
cancelled transaction, a bankruptcy deal, or the ever-popular 'Apple 
employee with a discount'.

The explanation is that the seller knows full well that the value of 
the computer is much higher than what they're asking, it's just that 
they need the cash as soon as possible, so they'll take the small loss 
to stave off a larger loss; often some sob story about Eastern European 
gangsters threatening the seller's family is added for color. (Many of 
these scams are coming out of Romania)

Then you're directed to wire the cash to the seller and the computer 
will be shipped to you.

Riight.

The deal with the $235 is that they've suckered people out of that 
much, even if they get cold feet later.

Another con that is being done is people selling powerbooks in this 
fashion, but the seller even gets the Powerbook. However, the original 
one was purchased with stolen CC information, and the buyer is on the 
hook for receiving stolen property. Most often the buyer is determined 
to be an innocent in the scam, but you lose the powerbook anyway, and 
the money you spent, too.

It's a con. Like all cons, they depend on your greed outweighing your 
common sense.

If it sounds too good to be true it is.

Remember this, repeat as needed.

Shout it if necessary: IF IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT IS!

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Re: Ebay G5 query

2004-02-27 Thread Pat Heidingsfelder
I have also been following this thread.  since it has now been brought  
back up, this is how I 'believe' it goes:
	You pay for a *spot in a pyramid type scheme.  You get access to what  
they call ebooks.  You try to get as many people as possible to go to  
the site and also buy into the pyramid type scheme.  That is why there  
are so many of them on eBay.  People have bought into them, then trying  
to get others to buy into the pyramid also.

The reason I know this is, a friend (now roommate) got suckered into  
one.  It was for a Powerbook!!  He is a little eccentric, and really  
wanted a powerbook.  Check it out at electronicsmatrix.com I think.
http://www.electronicsmatrix.com/content/templates/tracks.asp? 
articleid=63zoneid=8

If that link works it is for the Powerbook one.

Sorry everyone if this is off topic

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Re: Ebay G5 query

2004-02-25 Thread pjspop
Hmm,  on 2/24/04, clearly thinking quite astutely about Ebay G5 query,
simon goslin, penned:
Has anyone seen this advert on ebay?

Apple Power Mac G5 Dual 2Ghz for only $235

This is the link in question...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2789998233category=51036

Appartently if your bid is sucessfull you'll get the instructions on how to
go about getting a G5 for peanuts.

Sounds way too dodgy to me, but I just wondered if anyone out there had seen
it and proceeded.

Yeah, on hundreds of items. Pure and obvious scam which no one on this list
is likely to fall for. I just ignore 'em.

Too bad eBay hasn't the ethics to pull that c--p!

Now maybe we can get back to on-topic stuff. (Unless the Apple Power Mac G5
Dual 2Ghz has suddenly become a laptop.)

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Re: Ebay G5 query

2004-02-24 Thread Michael Shaw
I have heard that it is a pyramid scam of some sort...

M
On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, at 12:51 AM, simon goslin wrote:
Howdy!

Has anyone seen this advert on ebay?

Apple Power Mac G5 Dual 2Ghz for only $235

This is the link in question...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2789998233category=51036

Appartently if your bid is sucessfull you'll get the instructions on  
how to go about getting a G5 for peanuts.

Sounds way too dodgy to me, but I just wondered if anyone out there  
had seen it and proceeded.

L8r'S

Simon


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Re: Ebay G5 query

2004-02-24 Thread kochkodin
There was a similar ad that ran in Mac Addict last year..in the summer 
for about 2 months or more IIRC...There was a lot of discussion about it 
back then...I think it turned out to be a pyramid scam...Haven't heard 
or seen anything more about it since.
Regards,
Mike K

Michael Shaw wrote:
I have heard that it is a pyramid scam of some sort...

M
On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, at 12:51 AM, simon goslin wrote:
Howdy!

Has anyone seen this advert on ebay?

Apple Power Mac G5 Dual 2Ghz for only $235

This is the link in question...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2789998233category=51036

Appartently if your bid is sucessfull you'll get the instructions on  
how to go about getting a G5 for peanuts.

Sounds way too dodgy to me, but I just wondered if anyone out there  
had seen it and proceeded.

L8r'S

Simon





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Re: Ebay G5 query

2004-02-24 Thread Andrew
On 2/24/04 5:09 AM, kochkodin kochkodin@verizon.net wrote:

 There was a similar ad that ran in Mac Addict last year..in the summer
 for about 2 months or more IIRC...There was a lot of discussion about it
 back then...I think it turned out to be a pyramid scam...Haven't heard
 or seen anything more about it since.
 Regards,
 Mike K
 
 Michael Shaw wrote:
 I have heard that it is a pyramid scam of some sort...
 
 M
 On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, at 12:51 AM, simon goslin wrote:
 
 Howdy!
 
 Has anyone seen this advert on ebay?
 
 Apple Power Mac G5 Dual 2Ghz for only $235
 
 This is the link in question...
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/
 eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2789998233category=51036
 
 Appartently if your bid is sucessfull you'll get the instructions on
 how to go about getting a G5 for peanuts.
 
 Sounds way too dodgy to me, but I just wondered if anyone out there
 had seen it and proceeded.
 
 L8r'S
 
 Simon
 
 
 
 


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Re: Ebay G5 query

2004-02-24 Thread kochkodin
Just checked the site...It must be posted from Australia because the 
person indicates the AU $$$ cost...Also, it's just for email info and 
the auction ends today...only up for 1 day.
Mike K

Andrew wrote:

On 2/24/04 5:09 AM, kochkodin kochkodin@verizon.net wrote:


There was a similar ad that ran in Mac Addict last year..in the summer
for about 2 months or more IIRC...There was a lot of discussion about it
back then...I think it turned out to be a pyramid scam...Haven't heard
or seen anything more about it since.
Regards,
Mike K
Michael Shaw wrote:

I have heard that it is a pyramid scam of some sort...

M
On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, at 12:51 AM, simon goslin wrote:

Howdy!

Has anyone seen this advert on ebay?

Apple Power Mac G5 Dual 2Ghz for only $235

This is the link in question...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2789998233category=51036
Appartently if your bid is sucessfull you'll get the instructions on
how to go about getting a G5 for peanuts.
Sounds way too dodgy to me, but I just wondered if anyone out there
had seen it and proceeded.
L8r'S

Simon





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Re: Ebay G5 query

2004-02-24 Thread Wayne Schneck
There was a similar auction running here (US) on ebay for then the 
latest G4 towers. If you one (and I think everyone who bid probably was 
contacted by seller and given the info if you paid) you received the 
email instructions to get a low cost, new G4.

One thing that was a red flag, they only accepted money order or 
checks. So if you received your email and the info was bogus, you lost 
your money.

Be careful of things to good to be true, especially Macintosh products 
on ebay. I think I read that the Macintosh products (the powerbooks in 
particular) were the leading scam products.

Best Regards,

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Re: Ebay G5 query

2004-02-24 Thread peter webster
I'm glad this topic came up. I have a bridge for sale


There was a similar ad that ran in Mac Addict last year..in the 
summer for about 2 months or more IIRC...There was a lot of 
discussion about it back then...I think it turned out to be a 
pyramid scam...Haven't heard or seen anything more about it since.
Regards,
Mike K

Michael Shaw wrote:
 I have heard that it is a pyramid scam of some sort...
 M
 On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, at 12:51 AM, simon goslin wrote:
 Howdy!

 Has anyone seen this advert on ebay?

 Apple Power Mac G5 Dual 2Ghz for only $235

 This is the link in question...

 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2789998233category=51036

 Appartently if your bid is sucessfull you'll get the instructions 
on  how to go about getting a G5 for peanuts.

 Sounds way too dodgy to me, but I just wondered if anyone out 
there  had seen it and proceeded.

 L8r'S

 Simon




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Re: Ebay G5 query

2004-02-24 Thread Donald Keenan
On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, at 12:51 AM, simon goslin wrote:

Howdy!

Has anyone seen this advert on ebay?

Apple Power Mac G5 Dual 2Ghz for only $235

This is the link in question...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2789998233category=51036

Appartently if your bid is sucessfull you'll get the instructions on  
how to go about getting a G5 for peanuts.

Sounds way too dodgy to me, but I just wondered if anyone out there  
had seen it and proceeded.

L8r'S

Simon




Ads like these litter ebay...they are the spam of ebay and I wish the  
censors on ebay would consider them such. It's really annoying when  
browsing the macintosh categories.

Donald



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Re: Ebay G5 query

2004-02-24 Thread Don P.
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:51:58 +1100
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Howdy!

Has anyone seen this advert on ebay?

Apple Power Mac G5 Dual 2Ghz for only $235

This is the link in question...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2789998233category=51036

Appartently if your bid is sucessfull you'll get the
instructions on 
how to 
go about getting a G5 for peanuts.

Sounds way too dodgy to me, but I just wondered if
anyone out there had 
seen 
it and proceeded.

L8r'S

Simon

I'll make the same deal for 1/2 the price!
The ebay offer is:
This auction is for the information on how to get
your Apple Power Mac G5 Dual 2Ghz for only $235 (plus
shipping).
I'll provide the information on how you can rob
someone for even less than $235 (plus shipping)..
LOL
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Ebay G5 query

2004-02-23 Thread simon goslin
Howdy!

Has anyone seen this advert on ebay?

Apple Power Mac G5 Dual 2Ghz for only $235

This is the link in question...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2789998233category=51036

Appartently if your bid is sucessfull you'll get the instructions on how to 
go about getting a G5 for peanuts.

Sounds way too dodgy to me, but I just wondered if anyone out there had seen 
it and proceeded.

L8r'S

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