OT: Google Spam

2003-10-01 Thread Les Riess
I recently visited friends in Germany and was introduced to a friend of
theirs who is a computer consultant and self-styled expert. During the
conversation, I remarked that Google is a pretty good search engine, to
which the computer expert replied, Not so good. Too much spam..
Puzzled, I asked him what he meant by too much spam. He told me that if
you use Google, it causes you to receive more spam. This is the first
time that I have ever heard that, but I am far from being an expert.
So, have I learned something new about Google or, is this guy an
expert in name only?

Also, on related note, I correspond regularly via e-mail with people in
Germany  Switzerland and frequently use umlauts (the two dots above
some of the vowels). Lately, I have noticed that almost every piece of
spam that I receive has umlauts over every vowel in the subject heading.
How is this happening?

Disclaimer: I know this isn't about G-Books, although I'm using a Pismo,
but I don't know where else to ask these questions.


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Re: OT: Google Spam

2003-10-01 Thread Krevnik
This guy is 'expert' in name only, and badly reciting something he 
heard. Google *IS* linked to spam in one way: Spammers use Google to 
crawl for e-mail addresses. So if you do a search for your e-mail 
address on Google and it shows up, then spammers have a means of 
getting your e-mail address to send spam. Apple has protected their 
lists to prevent Google from crawling it and making the e-mail 
addresses visible to spammers.

So, use Google all you want, just make sure your web pages don't have 
your e-mail directly in the page as text (use links), and be aware of 
the archiving policies of mailing lists you are on (like this one).

The extra character information showing up in spams is probably an 
unrelated bug.

On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 07:49 AM, Les Riess wrote:

I recently visited friends in Germany and was introduced to a friend of
theirs who is a computer consultant and self-styled expert. During 
the
conversation, I remarked that Google is a pretty good search engine, to
which the computer expert replied, Not so good. Too much spam..
Puzzled, I asked him what he meant by too much spam. He told me that if
you use Google, it causes you to receive more spam. This is the first
time that I have ever heard that, but I am far from being an expert.
So, have I learned something new about Google or, is this guy an
expert in name only?

Also, on related note, I correspond regularly via e-mail with people in
Germany  Switzerland and frequently use umlauts (the two dots above
some of the vowels). Lately, I have noticed that almost every piece of
spam that I receive has umlauts over every vowel in the subject 
heading.
How is this happening?

Disclaimer: I know this isn't about G-Books, although I'm using a 
Pismo,
but I don't know where else to ask these questions.

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Re: OT: Google Spam

2003-10-01 Thread Bruce Johnson
Les Riess wrote:

I recently visited friends in Germany and was introduced to a friend of
theirs who is a computer consultant and self-styled expert. During the
conversation, I remarked that Google is a pretty good search engine, to
which the computer expert replied, Not so good. Too much spam..
Puzzled, I asked him what he meant by too much spam. He told me that if
you use Google, it causes you to receive more spam. This is the first
time that I have ever heard that, but I am far from being an expert.
So, have I learned something new about Google or, is this guy an
expert in name only?
Well, he's a legend in his own mind, and that mind is on a different planet.

No.

I've got google set as my default search engine and use it probably 
between 20 and 75 times daily. I've used Google preferentially since I 
found out about it a few years back.

Since yesterday I've gotten 12 messages filtered into my spam folder, 
none appeared in my inbox, so all of them got caught.

That's a pretty low number for if using Google increased your spam.

What I want is the neural interface to Google so it can replace my 'mind 
like a steel trap...a rusty, bent and broken steel trap' memory. ;-)

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Re: OT: Google Spam

2003-10-01 Thread Clark Martin
At 9:49 AM -0500 10/1/03, Les Riess wrote:
I recently visited friends in Germany and was introduced to a friend of
theirs who is a computer consultant and self-styled expert. During the
conversation, I remarked that Google is a pretty good search engine, to
which the computer expert replied, Not so good. Too much spam..
Puzzled, I asked him what he meant by too much spam. He told me that if
you use Google, it causes you to receive more spam. This is the first
time that I have ever heard that, but I am far from being an expert.
So, have I learned something new about Google or, is this guy an
expert in name only?


It sounds like a load.  I don't even know if a web site could get 
your e-mail address.  I do know that the bulk of the spam I get is 
addressed to an e-mail address that I only use on Usenet.

I'm sure that most people who use Google a lot get a lot of spam. 
But only because they use the Internet more in general.



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It is normal for people to ask general software questions in 
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