Re: OT: Windows laptop with AirPort possible?

2004-01-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1/10/04 11:12 PM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I got this crappy laptop from work which I need to setup in the event I got
 production support to do. It is a Dell Latitude D600 with the Dell
 TrueMobile 1300, which is a 802.11b wireless card.
 
 I have an ABS that works fine with my PowerBook, but no matter what I did, I
 can't seem to connect the friggin' PC on the network. I changed the settings
 for TCP/IP for a static address, since all my computers on my network have a
 static IP address, I entered all information for the router and the DNS
 server, the thing still report that there is no network. The laptop comes
 with a control panel named TrueMobile 1300 Client Utility. This control
 panel lets me see and connect to network. I can see my ABS name and
 configure it. Still, no network connection.
 
 What am I missing? Friggin', stupid Windows crap!
 
The first thing I do with PCs is make sure the card is 802.11b and not
802.11a but that obviously isn't the problem here. But I mention it in case
others check the archive for similar problems.

With Win98SE and higher putting a PC on the network isn't too difficult
except for the fact that prior to Win2K and XP at least 1 restart was
necessary. The one problem I do see fairly often with Windows and WiFi is
security. To see if this is the problem you are experiencing, change your
ABS's config to turn off WEP and see if the PC can connect. If it can you'll
need to play around with the various security options to see if one can be
made compatible with the card. You should also make sure you have the most
up to date drivers/config software for your PCs card.

Cheers
david

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Re: OT: Windows laptop with AirPort possible?

2004-01-11 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 11/01/04 00:33, Robin Ashe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 1/10/04 8:12 PM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I got this crappy laptop from work which I need to setup in the event I got
 production support to do. It is a Dell Latitude D600 with the Dell
 TrueMobile 1300, which is a 802.11b wireless card.
 
 I have an ABS that works fine with my PowerBook, but no matter what I did, I
 can't seem to connect the friggin' PC on the network. I changed the settings
 for TCP/IP for a static address, since all my computers on my network have a
 static IP address, I entered all information for the router and the DNS
 server, the thing still report that there is no network. The laptop comes
 with a control panel named TrueMobile 1300 Client Utility. This control
 panel lets me see and connect to network. I can see my ABS name and
 configure it. Still, no network connection.
 
 What am I missing? Friggin', stupid Windows crap!
 
 -Laurent.
 
 I know the 1150 is a rebranded Lucent WaveLan Gold, but I don't know about
 the 1300. Try it out on one of your Mac laptops and see if it recognizes it
 as an AirPort card. If it doesn't that could be your problem. I don't think
 that AirPort has very good compatibility with non-airport (Lucent/Orinoco)
 hardware.

Hmmm, that might be hard since the card is, according to Dell, a mini-PCI
internal card. Never heard of them, but that rules out testing them in a
PowerBook...

-Laurent.
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Re: OT: Windows laptop with AirPort possible?

2004-01-11 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 11/01/04 09:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 1/10/04 11:12 PM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 I got this crappy laptop from work which I need to setup in the event I got
 production support to do. It is a Dell Latitude D600 with the Dell
 TrueMobile 1300, which is a 802.11b wireless card.
 
 I have an ABS that works fine with my PowerBook, but no matter what I did, I
 can't seem to connect the friggin' PC on the network. I changed the settings
 for TCP/IP for a static address, since all my computers on my network have a
 static IP address, I entered all information for the router and the DNS
 server, the thing still report that there is no network. The laptop comes
 with a control panel named TrueMobile 1300 Client Utility. This control
 panel lets me see and connect to network. I can see my ABS name and
 configure it. Still, no network connection.
 
 What am I missing? Friggin', stupid Windows crap!
 
 The first thing I do with PCs is make sure the card is 802.11b and not
 802.11a but that obviously isn't the problem here. But I mention it in case
 others check the archive for similar problems.
 
 With Win98SE and higher putting a PC on the network isn't too difficult
 except for the fact that prior to Win2K and XP at least 1 restart was
 necessary. The one problem I do see fairly often with Windows and WiFi is
 security. To see if this is the problem you are experiencing, change your
 ABS's config to turn off WEP and see if the PC can connect. If it can you'll
 need to play around with the various security options to see if one can be
 made compatible with the card. You should also make sure you have the most
 up to date drivers/config software for your PCs card.

WEP is turned off on my ABS. I turned it off when I wanted my Newton eMate
to get on the network. It was easier that way.

The laptop is running W2K Pro. I downloaded the latest driver on Friday and
proceeded to install them.

-Laurent.
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Re: OT: Windows laptop with AirPort possible?

2004-01-11 Thread G'kar
On 1/11/04 12:30 PM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 on 11/01/04 09:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On 1/10/04 11:12 PM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 I got this crappy laptop from work which I need to setup in the event I got
 production support to do. It is a Dell Latitude D600 with the Dell
 TrueMobile 1300, which is a 802.11b wireless card.
 
 I have an ABS that works fine with my PowerBook, but no matter what I did, I
 can't seem to connect the friggin' PC on the network. I changed the settings
 for TCP/IP for a static address, since all my computers on my network have a
 static IP address, I entered all information for the router and the DNS
 server, the thing still report that there is no network. The laptop comes
 with a control panel named TrueMobile 1300 Client Utility. This control
 panel lets me see and connect to network. I can see my ABS name and
 configure it. Still, no network connection.
 
 What am I missing? Friggin', stupid Windows crap!
 
 The first thing I do with PCs is make sure the card is 802.11b and not
 802.11a but that obviously isn't the problem here. But I mention it in case
 others check the archive for similar problems.
 
 With Win98SE and higher putting a PC on the network isn't too difficult
 except for the fact that prior to Win2K and XP at least 1 restart was
 necessary. The one problem I do see fairly often with Windows and WiFi is
 security. To see if this is the problem you are experiencing, change your
 ABS's config to turn off WEP and see if the PC can connect. If it can you'll
 need to play around with the various security options to see if one can be
 made compatible with the card. You should also make sure you have the most
 up to date drivers/config software for your PCs card.
 
 WEP is turned off on my ABS. I turned it off when I wanted my Newton eMate
 to get on the network. It was easier that way.
 
 The laptop is running W2K Pro. I downloaded the latest driver on Friday and
 proceeded to install them.
 
Darn - that's all I can think of off the top of my head. Unfortunately while
I can diagnose and fix lots of Mac problems without ever seeing the
computer, I can't do the same with Windoze. Sorry.

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Re: OT: Windows laptop with AirPort possible?

2004-01-11 Thread Peter Stein
Laurent-

On your Dell, make sure that the checkbox __Automatically detect settings__
is NOT checked. It always screws with network/internet use.

Find this in Control Panel:Internet Options:Connections:LAN Settings -or-
from inside internet explorer:tools:internet options:connections:LAN
Settings

If you are setting IP, and DNS properties - then you are already deep in the
TCP/IP properties - if the above doesn't help I would roll back to DHCP and
give it a try.

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Re: OT: Windows laptop with AirPort possible?

2004-01-11 Thread Robin Ashe

 
 Hmmm, that might be hard since the card is, according to Dell, a mini-PCI
 internal card. Never heard of them, but that rules out testing them in a
 PowerBook...
 
 -Laurent.

That just means it's a standard PCI card as far as interface goes and is
just small enough to fit into a laptop. But yeah, that does throw my idea
out the window.


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OT: Windows laptop with AirPort possible?

2004-01-10 Thread Laurent Daudelin
I got this crappy laptop from work which I need to setup in the event I got
production support to do. It is a Dell Latitude D600 with the Dell
TrueMobile 1300, which is a 802.11b wireless card.

I have an ABS that works fine with my PowerBook, but no matter what I did, I
can't seem to connect the friggin' PC on the network. I changed the settings
for TCP/IP for a static address, since all my computers on my network have a
static IP address, I entered all information for the router and the DNS
server, the thing still report that there is no network. The laptop comes
with a control panel named TrueMobile 1300 Client Utility. This control
panel lets me see and connect to network. I can see my ABS name and
configure it. Still, no network connection.

What am I missing? Friggin', stupid Windows crap!

-Laurent.
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Re: OT: Windows laptop with AirPort possible?

2004-01-10 Thread Robin Ashe
On 1/10/04 8:12 PM, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I got this crappy laptop from work which I need to setup in the event I got
 production support to do. It is a Dell Latitude D600 with the Dell
 TrueMobile 1300, which is a 802.11b wireless card.
 
 I have an ABS that works fine with my PowerBook, but no matter what I did, I
 can't seem to connect the friggin' PC on the network. I changed the settings
 for TCP/IP for a static address, since all my computers on my network have a
 static IP address, I entered all information for the router and the DNS
 server, the thing still report that there is no network. The laptop comes
 with a control panel named TrueMobile 1300 Client Utility. This control
 panel lets me see and connect to network. I can see my ABS name and
 configure it. Still, no network connection.
 
 What am I missing? Friggin', stupid Windows crap!
 
 -Laurent.

I know the 1150 is a rebranded Lucent WaveLan Gold, but I don't know about
the 1300. Try it out on one of your Mac laptops and see if it recognizes it
as an AirPort card. If it doesn't that could be your problem. I don't think
that AirPort has very good compatibility with non-airport (Lucent/Orinoco)
hardware.

Another option might be to try out DHCP instead of Static IP.


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