Re: Panther on Lombard install problem

2004-01-06 Thread Eric Morrison 
Folks:

Don't know if this will resolve your problem but it may be worth a try.

boot up into open firmeware (Apple-Option-O-F)
at the prompt type "reset-nvram" (without the quotes) then hit return
type "set-defaults" then return
type "reset-all" then return
the machine should now reboot (if it doesn't type "mac-boot" and hit 
return)

This is a fix I picked up somewhere a while ago that does seem to fix 
odd problems from time to time. It came from an Apple tech (at least 
that is what I was told) and I'm not completely sure what it does 
although I believe it is somewhat akin to resetting parameter ram (may 
be the same thing in fact) or it may be that and then some. Anyhow, as 
I said, it does fix some odd problems from time to time and it has 
never caused me any trouble.

... e

On Dec 30, 2003, at 8:51 PM, Richard Smykla wrote:

Robert,

I had the exact same problem during the install. The only way I could 
find to complete the install was to remove the RAM from the upper 
slot. No amount of PRAM zapping, video driver deletion, permissions 
repairing, or even reformatting the destination drive would change the 
'color-meltdown' abortive install process. Removing the top-slot RAM 
worked. BTW, running an exhaustive RAM check utility from OS 9 finds 
NO problem with the memory module, and I never saw a similar problem 
in any version of OS X from 10.1 up to 10.2.6.

The good news is you can reinstall the RAM module once you've got a 
working Panther OS. Everything works as it should, with one major 
exception: trying to repair permissions using Disk Utility. Since 
installing Panther on this machine, any attempt to repair permissions 
from the boot disk will cause the color-meltdown every time. The only 
other time I've gotten the meltdown event is during a large (> 200MB) 
network copy from the Lombard to my G4. Smaller copies seem OK. I'm 
not sure what the problem is, but it seems the video RAM gets 
corrupted during these operations, and locks the system up tight (no 
cursor movement or response to keyboard) - the three-finger salute is 
the only thing that will get you out of this condition.

It seems clear (to me at least) that this is a (OS) software 
problem/conflict. Hope someone eventually figures this out, or Apple 
supplies a fix. Being as it only happens when more than the supported 
amount of RAM (256MB) is installed, I doubt Apple is too concerned 
with this. This problem only began happening with the 10.2.8 version 
of the OS, and has persisted through the 10.3.2 revision. Feel free to 
post any ideas or suggestions you may discover about this; I've 
scoured the 'net, and have yet to find a solution. Good luck. . .

Rick


I have a lombard with 512 RAM and 40GB HD. currently running the 
latest version of 10.2.   When i try to install Panther it gets most 
of the way through the install and then the screen goes "funky" as if 
both the vertical and horizontal hold both go at the same time. i 
tried an archive and install, completely wiping the HD with norton 
and installing nothing but Panther, but it refuses to install. i got 
the same problem with the ill fated 10.2.something upgrade that i was 
dumb enough to install right when it was new.

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated


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Re: Panther on Lombard install problem

2003-12-30 Thread Richard Smykla 
Robert,

I had the exact same problem during the install. The only way I could 
find to complete the install was to remove the RAM from the upper 
slot. No amount of PRAM zapping, video driver deletion, permissions 
repairing, or even reformatting the destination drive would change 
the 'color-meltdown' abortive install process. Removing the top-slot 
RAM worked. BTW, running an exhaustive RAM check utility from OS 9 
finds NO problem with the memory module, and I never saw a similar 
problem in any version of OS X from 10.1 up to 10.2.6.

The good news is you can reinstall the RAM module once you've got a 
working Panther OS. Everything works as it should, with one major 
exception: trying to repair permissions using Disk Utility. Since 
installing Panther on this machine, any attempt to repair permissions 
from the boot disk will cause the color-meltdown every time. The only 
other time I've gotten the meltdown event is during a large (> 200MB) 
network copy from the Lombard to my G4. Smaller copies seem OK. I'm 
not sure what the problem is, but it seems the video RAM gets 
corrupted during these operations, and locks the system up tight (no 
cursor movement or response to keyboard) - the three-finger salute is 
the only thing that will get you out of this condition.

It seems clear (to me at least) that this is a (OS) software 
problem/conflict. Hope someone eventually figures this out, or Apple 
supplies a fix. Being as it only happens when more than the supported 
amount of RAM (256MB) is installed, I doubt Apple is too concerned 
with this. This problem only began happening with the 10.2.8 version 
of the OS, and has persisted through the 10.3.2 revision. Feel free 
to post any ideas or suggestions you may discover about this; I've 
scoured the 'net, and have yet to find a solution. Good luck. . .

Rick


I have a lombard with 512 RAM and 40GB HD. currently running the 
latest version of 10.2.   When i try to install Panther it gets most 
of the way through the install and then the screen goes "funky" as 
if both the vertical and horizontal hold both go at the same time. i 
tried an archive and install, completely wiping the HD with norton 
and installing nothing but Panther, but it refuses to install. i got 
the same problem with the ill fated 10.2.something upgrade that i 
was dumb enough to install right when it was new.

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated


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Re: Panther on Lombard install problem

2003-12-30 Thread Krevnik 
Just curious, but did you ask this question before, because I recall a 
message on the G-Books list with this exact problem. I personally have 
not had any problems installing Panther, however, I have less RAM 
(320MB). My suggestion is to remove one of the RAM DIMMs and try an 
Archive/Install... as RAM seems to be the problem in these cases.

On Dec 30, 2003, at 11:27 AM, rgeaston wrote:

I have a lombard with 512 RAM and 40GB HD. currently running the 
latest version of 10.2.   When i try to install Panther it gets most 
of the way through the install and then the screen goes "funky" as if 
both the vertical and horizontal hold both go at the same time. i 
tried an archive and install, completely wiping the HD with norton and 
installing nothing but Panther, but it refuses to install. i got the 
same problem with the ill fated 10.2.something upgrade that i was dumb 
enough to install right when it was new.

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated


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Panther on Lombard install problem

2003-12-30 Thread rgeaston 
I have a lombard with 512 RAM and 40GB HD. currently running the latest 
version of 10.2.   When i try to install Panther it gets most of the 
way through the install and then the screen goes "funky" as if both the 
vertical and horizontal hold both go at the same time. i tried an 
archive and install, completely wiping the HD with norton and 
installing nothing but Panther, but it refuses to install. i got the 
same problem with the ill fated 10.2.something upgrade that i was dumb 
enough to install right when it was new.

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated

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Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting 
different results.
Albert Einstein

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