Re: Bluetooth Mice/Trackball Options. . .

2005-02-17 Thread Aase Marit Waage
Hi,
I can`t post to the list these days, for some reason the list owner 
has blacklisted my ISP... And in their error messages, they give an 
address you can write to if you mean it is in error, but mail to that 
address bounces, as the address does not exist... How fun... My ISP 
is working on the problem though, so I hope they will succeed soon!

In the mean time I will just have to try a private mail now and then...
Take a look at http://www.keytools.com - they have the best selection 
of keyboards etc. that I ever seen, I think...  I looked around as I 
might get a new one at work, but I really have not looked at if the 
different ones will work for Macs or only PC`s though. I have quite a 
lot of joint problems, so I have tried a lot of different solutions 
over the years, both for keyboards and mice/mice devices. One was a 
Logitech (I think) keyboard with an integrated track pad, not in the 
center, but to one side (too bad). This is a few years back though, 
so it wasn`t Bluetooth. I have no idea if it would be Mac compatible 
though, as the only desktops I have used since 1992, has been at 
work, on Windows PC`s (and up to around 1996, we were connected to 
one of the big Tandberg machines. Tandberg made the best keyboards 
ever though, with round keys that were oh so light... Too bad they 
don`t make keyboards for PC`s now!!! A mini keyboard from them would 
have been perfect Anyway, the above web site has lots of 
keyboards, including different types of mini keyboards. That is what 
I have ended out using at work, instead of the ergonomic keyboard, on 
recommendation by a physical therapist and occupational therapist. 
And I could not be more happy, getting a smaller keyboard without the 
arrows and numeric keyboard to the side, so I could get the mouse 
closer, was a lot better. Not having to have your arm in that awkward 
position to the side, to move past the arrows/numerics, helps a lot 
if you get problems with everything from the wrist and up to the 
neck, I think. Being able to keep your upper arm close to the body, 
is important in order to prevent strain. I have a big track ball, 
unfortunately not as good a the Kensington Expert Mouse which I used 
to have, but still better than a lot of other things I tried over the 
years (the KEM broke, and we had since changed vendor, and they did 
not carry that one, too bad for me. We have no changed again, so I 
hope I can get a new one). I also have a gel type large handrest, 
which has an integrated trackpad in it. I really can`t remember the 
brand, but I will try to remember to check it at work Tuesday (I`m 
off until then) if you want me to. It is not rectangular like most 
others, but rather curved, and it is big, so you can use it to get 
some of the advantages of a curved corner desk on a normal desk. It 
is really nice. And it has a groove in the middle which fits the 
Logitech trackpad perfectly. You tape it down there with double sided 
tape. With the trackpad there, and the mini keyboard just in front of 
it with the big track ball where the arrows/numerics normally is, I 
think I have an ergonomic environment as close to perfect as you can 
possibly get today. Also, being able to vary between the two pointing 
devices, is real nice. Having both was not a planned solution though. 
A vendor that visits regularly, just came in one day with the new 
handrest, and since I liked it, I got it with the track pad, and did 
not see any reason for getting rid of the track ball that I have 
liked so much for years now (I am sure that I before that tried about 
10 different solutions!). Also, I do like the trackball a lot, 
because even if the the trackpad from Logitech has got a lot better 
than it used to be (as in the ergonomic keyboard or a separate track 
pad I had before that), I think it is not anywhere as nice as the one 
that is integrated in the Mac PowerBook and iBook. It is difficult to 
explain why. The older models I think you had to use too much force 
on. It has got a lot more sensitive, even a bit too much, I am having 
the same problem with that as with the one on the iBook, if I have a 
bit of a fever, I accidently move the cursor all the time. Had I been 
even more happy with it, I have been real happy with the trackpad on 
the PowerBooks I have had, and now the iBook, I never felt for 
getting a separate mouse or something like that. The only thing I am 
not happy with, is on this iBook (never had that problem before), 
with the track pad being too sensitive. The Kensington Expert Mouse 
(Bluetooth or not, the one I had was not wireless) is my number 1 
favorite of all separate mice devices though, if you don`t mind the 
big size. I know many like Logitech`s big trackball, but at least the 
ones I have tried, hasn`t been good for me, because you have to use 
it with your hand in the same position all the time, holding your 
wrist with the thumb up (almost vertically), while you on the 
Kensington Expert Mouse can  vary 

Re: Bluetooth Mice/Trackball Options. . .

2005-02-16 Thread romad
 Hello all,

 I've been shopping around online for a Bluetooth mouse/trackball
 option, as my capable USB Logitech three button mouse is driving me
 crazy with the cord always gettin' in the way.  I've been looking
 around, and so far the two contenders are:

 Bluetake Optical BT500 three button mouse  ($46.95)

 and

 The Ball -- the only Bluetooth trackball available by DVForge.
 ($89.99)

 Anyone use either of these products?  What are the opinions of these
 two?  Apple's Bluetooth mouse is not part of my search, due to the need
 for a three button mouse/trackball.  Also, for those who use either
 these or other Bluetooth mice I need know which is best for battery
 life, etc.  I already have Bluetooth USB adapter for my Pismo and use
 several Bluetooth devices, except; which seems ironic, a mouse.

 Thanks for any info. . .

Both Kensington and Targus have Bluetooth mice.

Sincerely,
Dennis B. Swaney
(via webmail)


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Re: Bluetooth Mice/Trackball Options. . .

2005-02-16 Thread romad
 Hello all,

 I've been shopping around online for a Bluetooth mouse/trackball
 option, as my capable USB Logitech three button mouse is driving me
 crazy with the cord always gettin' in the way.  I've been looking
 around, and so far the two contenders are:

 Bluetake Optical BT500 three button mouse  ($46.95)

 and

 The Ball -- the only Bluetooth trackball available by DVForge.
 ($89.99)

 Anyone use either of these products?  What are the opinions of these
 two?  Apple's Bluetooth mouse is not part of my search, due to the need
 for a three button mouse/trackball.  Also, for those who use either
 these or other Bluetooth mice I need know which is best for battery
 life, etc.  I already have Bluetooth USB adapter for my Pismo and use
 several Bluetooth devices, except; which seems ironic, a mouse.

 Thanks for any info. . .

Both Kensington and Targus have Bluetooth mice.

Sincerely,
Dennis B. Swaney
(via webmail)


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Re: Bluetooth Mice/Trackball Options. . .

2005-02-16 Thread Timothy Luoma
On Feb 16, 2005, at 8:39 PM, Zoltan Batiz wrote:
Also, for those who use either these or other Bluetooth mice I need 
know which is best for battery life, etc.  I already have Bluetooth 
USB adapter for my Pismo and use several Bluetooth devices, except; 
which seems ironic, a mouse.

I have the Logitech Bluetooth Desktop MX which I like well enough.  
I've been looking for a Bluetooth trackball, but the only one available 
is butt ugly.

Battery life... the keyboard is on like it's 2nd set of 4AA batteries 
in almost a year.

The mouse has a charger that I just pop it into each night.  DON'T get 
a mouse that can't charge the batteries in the mouse, is my suggestion.

The mouse has recently started acting up a little, but I don't know how 
long any of them last.  I might just need to replace the rechargeable 
batteries.

I actually would love an ergonomic bluetooth keyboard with a trackpad 
in the center (integrated mouse), but I haven't seen anything like 
that.

BTW I got an iCurve when I got the keyboard and love love love it more 
than I ever thought I would love a piece of formed plastic.  Wait, that 
didn't sound very good, but you know what I mean...

TjL
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