Re: Intel Macs....
On 11 Jan 2006, at 2:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A long cord would be nicer tho. My housemate keeps ripping hers out because she can't quite get to the wall. Ah, yes. I had that problem. I solved it with a piece of old technology called an extension cord. Peter -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
On Jan 11, 2006, at 11:18 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:05 AM -0500 01/11/2006, bobgir2004 wrote: If those published stats hold up to real world comparisons, that's one helluva impressive laptop. Before we wet our collective pants on this one, best first check out: http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/01/ the_mac_perform.html Apple used multiprocessor benchmarks to skew the performance advantage that its Intel-based machines enjoy compared to single-core PowerPC G4 and G5. oops. The devil is in the details. The cinebench benchmark, which shows a 3x improvement, is an application-level benchmark that's pretty useful for predicting how well it performs real-life in CPU intensive tasks. both within and across architectures. People who whinge about *only* 3x faster should be shot... -- Bruce Johnson Go ahead and shoot me then Bruce 'cause 3x is NOT enough for me to throw everything away and buy a whole new computer. Z -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
On Jan 12, 2006, at 9:17 AM, Zoltan Batiz wrote: People who whinge about *only* 3x faster should be shot... -- Bruce Johnson Go ahead and shoot me then Bruce 'cause 3x is NOT enough for me to throw everything away and buy a whole new computer. Or you could stop whinging about it. Thus far Apple's minions haven't barged into my house and seized my old Macs! Nor do I feel compelled to trash my systems (though I'll admit, the advent of the Nano sure made me think about 'accidentally' stepping on my Shuffle.) No one is being *forced* to do anything. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
Zoltan wrote, ..3x is NOT enough for me to throw everything away and buy a whole new computer. Is it enough for you to be able to run OS X.94.x Pussycat? rb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
Ok, here's a question: Would the new MacBook qualify for this list? Current processors all have something in common, sort of. Or will there now be a MacBook list? (Like I said, I'm still very happy with my almost-new G4, but still. :) ) Later.Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
Though the term Low-End-Mac seems inappropriate for a 2K - 2.5K laptop; the common underpinning under all of these computers is the OS. While unfortunately the latest Al-Books don't allow booting to OS9, and there are some discussions on this list regarding OS9 problems; this lack of functionality hasn't stopped the inclusion of said 'books. One of the most effective things regarding the Apple system is the community that has built around it, and welcomed new Win'tel converts. Whether you believe this latest move on Apple's part is good or bad, to begin to dissolve that community for simply a means of protest against a bit of silicon seems silly and does a disservice to this list and the potential transfer of knowledge through discussion. Michael J. Cangelosi -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Katz Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:31 AM To: G-Books Subject: Re: Intel Macs Ok, here's a question: Would the new MacBook qualify for this list? Current processors all have something in common, sort of. Or will there now be a MacBook list? (Like I said, I'm still very happy with my almost-new G4, but still. :) ) Later.Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
If those published stats hold up to real world comparisons, that's one helluva impressive laptop. Before we wet our collective pants on this one, best first check out: http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/01/the_mac_perform .html Inter alia, in notes: Apple used multiprocessor benchmarks to skew the performance advantage that its Intel-based machines enjoy compared to single-core PowerPC G4 and G5. Apple used the industry-standard SPEC suite components SPECint2000 and SPECfp2000, but here's the catch: Apple used SPECint_rate2000 and SPECfp_rate2000. The article is a two-minute read. bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
On 1/11/06, Michael Cangelosi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to begin to dissolve that community for simply a means of protest against a bit of silicon seems silly and does a disservice to this list and the potential transfer of knowledge through discussion. I'm not disagreeing with you, but had to ask. This list does focus on the G3/G4 series of 'book, regardless of the OS. There's a separate list tho, for the older powerbooks-- 040 and up---different processors, different OS (sometimes :) ), different list. Later..Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
At 3:06 PM -0500 01/10/2006, Brian McEwen wrote: On Jan 10, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: In Wayne and Garth's immortal words SCHHHWINGGG! :-) If those published stats hold up to real world comparisons, that's one helluva impressive laptop. no problem with laggy google Earth on THOSE laptops! *arg* *choke* *sputter* yes, cure your badly coded app problems by buying a bigger better faster computer. God forbid you should make the programmer fix his code. - Dan. (climbing back under his rock) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
At 4:52 PM -0700 01/10/2006, Bruce Johnson wrote: More random thoughts: I LOVE the mag-safe power connector, given that my intrepid doofo-canine at home nearly dragged my Pismo off my lap the other day by the power cord. Ya. Cool feature. A long cord would be nicer tho. My housemate keeps ripping hers out because she can't quite get to the wall. One of the benchmarks they offer is the cinebench http://www.cinebench.com/, that bodes well for Cinema4D at least coming in Universal Binary soon. Is anything available for this ExpressCard slot? I've never heard of this technology. Me either. http://www.expresscard.org/ - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
At 10:05 AM -0500 01/11/2006, bobgir2004 wrote: If those published stats hold up to real world comparisons, that's one helluva impressive laptop. Before we wet our collective pants on this one, best first check out: http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/01/the_mac_perform.html Apple used multiprocessor benchmarks to skew the performance advantage that its Intel-based machines enjoy compared to single-core PowerPC G4 and G5. oops. The devil is in the details. hum. - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
Well said, Michael. I have used Macs exclusively since 1985 and enjoy the lists I am on, learning from them all. I will admit to a tinge of discomfort when I heard about intelmacs. But last night I watched Jobs' Macworld presentation via the Apple site and must admit to feeling the urge to pony up for the new iMac. When one moves forward there is always something to be left behind... I hope there are no deal breaker issues with this transition. Don Michael Cangelosi wrote: Though the term Low-End-Mac seems inappropriate for a 2K - 2.5K laptop; the common underpinning under all of these computers is the OS. While unfortunately the latest Al-Books don't allow booting to OS9, and there are some discussions on this list regarding OS9 problems; this lack of functionality hasn't stopped the inclusion of said 'books. One of the most effective things regarding the Apple system is the community that has built around it, and welcomed new Win'tel converts. Whether you believe this latest move on Apple's part is good or bad, to begin to dissolve that community for simply a means of protest against a bit of silicon seems silly and does a disservice to this list and the potential transfer of knowledge through discussion. Michael J. Cangelosi -Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Katz Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:31 AM To: G-Books Subject: Re: Intel Macs Ok, here's a question: Would the new MacBook qualify for this list? Current processors all have something in common, sort of. Or will there now be a MacBook list? (Like I said, I'm still very happy with my almost-new G4, but still. :) ) Later.Howard -- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 3:06 PM -0500 01/10/2006, Brian McEwen wrote: On Jan 10, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: In Wayne and Garth's immortal words SCHHHWINGGG! :-) If those published stats hold up to real world comparisons, that's one helluva impressive laptop. no problem with laggy google Earth on THOSE laptops! *arg* *choke* *sputter* yes, cure your badly coded app problems by buying a bigger better faster computer. God forbid you should make the programmer fix his code. I suspect the laggy performance is being compared to systems with better video, or all the OpenGL doodad options being turned on, or sluggish networks, because GE slurps bandwidth like crazy. (If you're on an Airport with you, your wife, the kids and three mooching neighbors, you ain't got much bandwidth left on a typical cable connection...) It runs quite nicely on my system, an 800 MHz G4 with an original radeon card, and a 10 mbit ethernet connection. Google is rewriting a Windows-Only app to run on multiple architectures. You can do that by making a separate app for every architecture, or do it the way they are, use a cross-platform library. (They're using QT http://www.trolltech.com) By their nature, cross-platform libraries tend to be less efficient. I suppose you could make GE work on low-end hardware by getting in there and hand-coding assembler, but, then, if that was the way to develop we'd never get GE on any platform. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 10:05 AM -0500 01/11/2006, bobgir2004 wrote: If those published stats hold up to real world comparisons, that's one helluva impressive laptop. Before we wet our collective pants on this one, best first check out: http://weblog.infoworld.com/enterprisemac/archives/2006/01/ the_mac_perform.html Apple used multiprocessor benchmarks to skew the performance advantage that its Intel-based machines enjoy compared to single-core PowerPC G4 and G5. oops. The devil is in the details. The cinebench benchmark, which shows a 3x improvement, is an application-level benchmark that's pretty useful for predicting how well it performs real-life in CPU intensive tasks. both within and across architectures. People who whinge about *only* 3x faster should be shot... -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ A buddy of mine just took a lucky guess at the URL. On 1/10/06, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The New MacBook, just announced at Macworld. Dual core 1.67 and 1.83 Ghz, 15.4 displays, $2k and $2.5K respectively. Allegedly 4-5x faster. Available February. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
On Jan 10, 2006, at 11:50 AM, Van Snyder wrote: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ A buddy of mine just took a lucky guess at the URL. In Wayne and Garth's immortal words SCHHHWINGGG! :-) If those published stats hold up to real world comparisons, that's one helluva impressive laptop. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
On Jan 10, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: In Wayne and Garth's immortal words SCHHHWINGGG! :-) If those published stats hold up to real world comparisons, that's one helluva impressive laptop. no problem with laggy google Earth on THOSE laptops! B -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
Gee, almost makes me mad that I got my AL 15 PB last June. Almost. :) LaterHoward -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
my new imac is arriving tomorrow... undecided if i should keep it or send it back for the intel. Richard On Jan 10, 2006, at 9:18 PM, Howard Katz wrote: Gee, almost makes me mad that I got my AL 15 PB last June. Almost. :) LaterHoward -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
On 1/10/06, Richard Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my new imac is arriving tomorrow... undecided if i should keep it or send it back for the intel. I think I will be getting an imac now. :D -- Larry there are three things to cry for in life - things that are lost, things that are found, and things that are magnificent.~douglas coupland [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.roadtobabylon.org http://www.citruspub.net -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs....
Bruce Johnson wrote: The New MacBook, just announced at Macworld. Dual core 1.67 and 1.83 Ghz, 15.4 displays, $2k and $2.5K respectively. Allegedly 4-5x faster. Available February. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' SCHWT but... Here in OZ http://www.apple.com.au/macbookpro the starting price is AUD 3999 instead of USD 1999. Current exchange rate of about 1AUD=0.75USD should have the price at AUD 2,700 so Aussies get ripped off by a massive $1,300. Cheaper to buy it direct from the US. I'd expect some sort of price differential but not that much. Oh well, looks like my T41 stays in use for a few more years.. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 10/01/06 15:45, Michael A. Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: The New MacBook, just announced at Macworld. Dual core 1.67 and 1.83 Ghz, 15.4 displays, $2k and $2.5K respectively. Allegedly 4-5x faster. Available February. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' SCHWT but... Here in OZ http://www.apple.com.au/macbookpro the starting price is AUD 3999 instead of USD 1999. Current exchange rate of about 1AUD=0.75USD should have the price at AUD 2,700 so Aussies get ripped off by a massive $1,300. Cheaper to buy it direct from the US. I'd expect some sort of price differential but not that much. Oh well, looks like my T41 stays in use for a few more years.. Pardon my ignorance, but what is a T41??? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Jan 10, 2006, at 1:54 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 10/01/06 15:45, Michael A. Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: The New MacBook, just announced at Macworld. Dual core 1.67 and 1.83 Ghz, 15.4 displays, $2k and $2.5K respectively. Allegedly 4-5x faster. Available February. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' SCHWT but... Here in OZ http://www.apple.com.au/macbookpro the starting price is AUD 3999 instead of USD 1999. Current exchange rate of about 1AUD=0.75USD should have the price at AUD 2,700 so Aussies get ripped off by a massive $1,300. Cheaper to buy it direct from the US. I'd expect some sort of price differential but not that much. Oh well, looks like my T41 stays in use for a few more years.. Pardon my ignorance, but what is a T41??? It's a highly advanced version of the original T1 Terminator, mutated so it doesn't have arms to rip your head from the body and legs to run you down. However, the system font is still Chicago -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Michael A. Howard wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: The New MacBook, just announced at Macworld. Dual core 1.67 and 1.83 Ghz, 15.4 displays, $2k and $2.5K respectively. Allegedly 4-5x faster. Available February. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' SCHWT but... Here in OZ http://www.apple.com.au/macbookpro the starting price is AUD 3999 instead of USD 1999. Current exchange rate of about 1AUD=0.75USD should have the price at AUD 2,700 so Aussies get ripped off by a massive $1,300. Cheaper to buy it direct from the US. I'd expect some sort of price differential but not that much. Oh well, looks like my T41 stays in use for a few more years.. The page has since been updated to a starting price of AUD 3,199 so not as bad but still not good.. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Jan 10, 2006, at 12:54 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 10/01/06 15:45, Michael A. Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: The New MacBook, just announced at Macworld. Dual core 1.67 and 1.83 Ghz, 15.4 displays, $2k and $2.5K respectively. Allegedly 4-5x faster. Available February. -- Bruce Johnson SCHWT but... Here in OZ http://www.apple.com.au/macbookpro the starting price is AUD 3999 instead of USD 1999. Current exchange rate of about 1AUD=0.75USD should have the price at AUD 2,700 so Aussies get ripped off by a massive $1,300. Cheaper to buy it direct from the US. I'd expect some sort of price differential but not that much. Oh well, looks like my T41 stays in use for a few more years.. Pardon my ignorance, but what is a T41??? -Laurent. WW II training aircraft I think. Must be extremely durable to still be in use down under. JS -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On 1/10/06 2:37 PM, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 10, 2006, at 11:50 AM, Van Snyder wrote: http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ A buddy of mine just took a lucky guess at the URL. In Wayne and Garth's immortal words SCHHHWINGGG! :-) If those published stats hold up to real world comparisons, that's one helluva impressive laptop. The one thing I'm not finding is battery life stats on the new notebook. I have a 15 now and I'm perfectly satisfied with it as long as I'm within reach of an electrical outlet. On a good day I'm getting 2:30 from a full charge and I've never done any better. If the MacBook (I'll never get used to that!) gets anywhere close to my Dull's 4:30 my credit card is getting some use! david -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Umm, Google Earth is badly coded, it's not really the machine. That's why they didn't release it. It's still a hell of a PowerBook though! On 11/01/2006, at 6:36 AM, Brian McEwen wrote: On Jan 10, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: In Wayne and Garth's immortal words SCHHHWINGGG! :-) If those published stats hold up to real world comparisons, that's one helluva impressive laptop. no problem with laggy google Earth on THOSE laptops! B -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 10, 2006, at 1:54 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: On 10/01/06 15:45, Michael A. Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bruce Johnson wrote: The New MacBook, just announced at Macworld. Dual core 1.67 and 1.83 Ghz, 15.4 displays, $2k and $2.5K respectively. Allegedly 4-5x faster. Available February. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' SCHWT but... Here in OZ http://www.apple.com.au/macbookpro the starting price is AUD 3999 instead of USD 1999. Current exchange rate of about 1AUD=0.75USD should have the price at AUD 2,700 so Aussies get ripped off by a massive $1,300. Cheaper to buy it direct from the US. I'd expect some sort of price differential but not that much. Oh well, looks like my T41 stays in use for a few more years.. Pardon my ignorance, but what is a T41??? It's a highly advanced version of the original T1 Terminator, mutated so it doesn't have arms to rip your head from the body and legs to run you down. However, the system font is still Chicago -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' Naa, a black titanium? notebook running something that dual boots starts with an L and something that starts with a W. At the time I started my business I needed something faster than a Lombard that could also work in my clients environments so over to the dark side it was.. Mike -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Michael A. Howard wrote: Pardon my ignorance, but what is a T41??? It's a highly advanced version of the original T1 Terminator, mutated so it doesn't have arms to rip your head from the body and legs to run you down. However, the system font is still Chicago -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' Naa, a black titanium? notebook running something that dual boots starts with an L and something that starts with a W. At the time I started my business I needed something faster than a Lombard that could also work in my clients environments so over to the dark side it was.. Like I said, a highly mutated Terminator without legs or arms, but still totally inimical to human life... -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Jan 10, 2006, at 3:28 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 11:44 AM -0700 01/10/2006, Bruce Johnson wrote: The New MacBook, just announced at Macworld. Dual core 1.67 and 1.83 Ghz, 15.4 displays, $2k and $2.5K respectively. Allegedly 4-5x faster. Available February. http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/ Dim gray text on a black background. Way to go Apple. Well obviously they want you to go to the Apple store version, black type on white background, and a convenient, tempting buy one now button :-) More random thoughts: I LOVE the mag-safe power connector, given that my intrepid doofo- canine at home nearly dragged my Pismo off my lap the other day by the power cord. One of the benchmarks they offer is the cinebench http:// www.cinebench.com/, that bodes well for Cinema4D at least coming in Universal Binary soon. Is anything available for this ExpressCard slot? I've never heard of this technology. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
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On Jan 10, 2006, at 6:52 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: I LOVE the mag-safe power connector, given that my intrepid doofo- canine at home nearly dragged my Pismo off my lap the other day by the power cord. Wow, with that I might not need a new power adapter every year (with the last few months before getting the new one spent with the plug/ cord junction taped to delay total failure as long as possible!). No doofo-canine - just me. Anne -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs (Was USB2 for Pismo - Use a PCMCIA Card?)
For Apples sake I'm glad that there is so much exitement about the new Macintels, and, intellectually I think it was a good move. That said, and for reasons I won't delve into on this forum, I'll be looking forward to the opportunity to get my first Mac desktop in a while, probably a dual G5 after the switch. The local dealer frequently buys up late model stock and passes the savings on to the faithful. Barry --- Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I didn't know about the air-cooled G5. However, I do remember the G3 Lombard and Pismo managing extraordinary battery life on one or two batteries. Then again, I'll be using my Lombard through the end of High School, so there. I'll have to check real-world life on mine, but I'm sure it'll keep up with a Centrino on battery life with a new one.. Caleb On Friday, Dec 16, 2005, at 21:20 America/Chicago, david wrote: Not all G5 PowerMacs are water cooled - though that may have changed with the dual core machines. Actually my G5 dualie runs cooler than my Pentium machine (judged both by reported processor temps and the heat from the fans and the fans on my dualie almost run more than the lowest speed.) My aluminum PowerBook does run a good deal warmer than the Centrino notebook I have at work. However, before getting the Centrino machine I had a P4 notebook that ran just as hot. What I'm looking forward to is a Mac notebook that gets more than 2 hours from battery. The only thing I like about my Acer notebook is the fact that I get just over 5 hours use of it before having to swap batteries. david On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:41 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote: I should clarify that my G3 runs cooler than any of my PC notebooks have, but the G4 is just plain hot, and not only in the styling department. Ask anyone who has used a TiBook or an AlBook for any length of time. Plus, the G5 has to have water cooling to run at a decent temperature. I honestly think that Apple on x86 is the right move, but I just hope it's smoother than the 68K to PPC transition. As an Apple fan, I'll remain loyal for a long time, however. I have faith in Apple's quality, which is why I'm waiting to go Intel with Apple. Caleb On Friday, Dec 16, 2005, at 20:35 America/Chicago, Caleb Cupples wrote: Well, to be honest, I'm looking forward to the new Intel PowerBooks, just because I think Apple is making a good move. I love the PowerPC, but the x86 hardware runs cooler than the G4 or G5. The only reason I don't have one is because I prefer the Mac experience. Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email:
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On Dec 16, 2005, at 7:35 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote: Well, to be honest, I'm looking forward to the new Intel PowerBooks, just because I think Apple is making a good move. I love the PowerPC, but the x86 hardware runs cooler than the G4 or G5. Actually it doesn't. Powerbooks use their cases as part of the heat sink, and Pentium-4 based laptops step the CPU speed way down. The new Pentium M class run cooler but also sport big fans. I was loading Adobe Creative suite on a new one the other day and it was like having a space heater on my desk, with a fan blasting hot air out the side. Powerbook fans come on at higher temps. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig that says 'NI!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs (Was USB2 for Pismo - Use a PCMCIA Card?)
I should clarify that my G3 runs cooler than any of my PC notebooks have, but the G4 is just plain hot, and not only in the styling department. Ask anyone who has used a TiBook or an AlBook for any length of time. Plus, the G5 has to have water cooling to run at a decent temperature. I honestly think that Apple on x86 is the right move, but I just hope it's smoother than the 68K to PPC transition. As an Apple fan, I'll remain loyal for a long time, however. I have faith in Apple's quality, which is why I'm waiting to go Intel with Apple. Caleb On Friday, Dec 16, 2005, at 20:35 America/Chicago, Caleb Cupples wrote: Well, to be honest, I'm looking forward to the new Intel PowerBooks, just because I think Apple is making a good move. I love the PowerPC, but the x86 hardware runs cooler than the G4 or G5. The only reason I don't have one is because I prefer the Mac experience. Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs (Was USB2 for Pismo - Use a PCMCIA Card?)
Not all G5 PowerMacs are water cooled - though that may have changed with the dual core machines. Actually my G5 dualie runs cooler than my Pentium machine (judged both by reported processor temps and the heat from the fans and the fans on my dualie almost run more than the lowest speed.) My aluminum PowerBook does run a good deal warmer than the Centrino notebook I have at work. However, before getting the Centrino machine I had a P4 notebook that ran just as hot. What I'm looking forward to is a Mac notebook that gets more than 2 hours from battery. The only thing I like about my Acer notebook is the fact that I get just over 5 hours use of it before having to swap batteries. david On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:41 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote: I should clarify that my G3 runs cooler than any of my PC notebooks have, but the G4 is just plain hot, and not only in the styling department. Ask anyone who has used a TiBook or an AlBook for any length of time. Plus, the G5 has to have water cooling to run at a decent temperature. I honestly think that Apple on x86 is the right move, but I just hope it's smoother than the 68K to PPC transition. As an Apple fan, I'll remain loyal for a long time, however. I have faith in Apple's quality, which is why I'm waiting to go Intel with Apple. Caleb On Friday, Dec 16, 2005, at 20:35 America/Chicago, Caleb Cupples wrote: Well, to be honest, I'm looking forward to the new Intel PowerBooks, just because I think Apple is making a good move. I love the PowerPC, but the x86 hardware runs cooler than the G4 or G5. The only reason I don't have one is because I prefer the Mac experience. Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Intel Macs (Was USB2 for Pismo - Use a PCMCIA Card?)
I didn't know about the air-cooled G5. However, I do remember the G3 Lombard and Pismo managing extraordinary battery life on one or two batteries. Then again, I'll be using my Lombard through the end of High School, so there. I'll have to check real-world life on mine, but I'm sure it'll keep up with a Centrino on battery life with a new one.. Caleb On Friday, Dec 16, 2005, at 21:20 America/Chicago, david wrote: Not all G5 PowerMacs are water cooled - though that may have changed with the dual core machines. Actually my G5 dualie runs cooler than my Pentium machine (judged both by reported processor temps and the heat from the fans and the fans on my dualie almost run more than the lowest speed.) My aluminum PowerBook does run a good deal warmer than the Centrino notebook I have at work. However, before getting the Centrino machine I had a P4 notebook that ran just as hot. What I'm looking forward to is a Mac notebook that gets more than 2 hours from battery. The only thing I like about my Acer notebook is the fact that I get just over 5 hours use of it before having to swap batteries. david On Dec 16, 2005, at 9:41 PM, Caleb Cupples wrote: I should clarify that my G3 runs cooler than any of my PC notebooks have, but the G4 is just plain hot, and not only in the styling department. Ask anyone who has used a TiBook or an AlBook for any length of time. Plus, the G5 has to have water cooling to run at a decent temperature. I honestly think that Apple on x86 is the right move, but I just hope it's smoother than the 68K to PPC transition. As an Apple fan, I'll remain loyal for a long time, however. I have faith in Apple's quality, which is why I'm waiting to go Intel with Apple. Caleb On Friday, Dec 16, 2005, at 20:35 America/Chicago, Caleb Cupples wrote: Well, to be honest, I'm looking forward to the new Intel PowerBooks, just because I think Apple is making a good move. I love the PowerPC, but the x86 hardware runs cooler than the G4 or G5. The only reason I don't have one is because I prefer the Mac experience. Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
