Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-09 Thread Jim Freeman
Hmm. I had a strange incident with my airport network the other day. In 
the middle of Jobs' keynote I lost my connection. All three airport 
connected computers in the house had intermittent loss of signal 
strength. I rebooted the base station and all the computers a couple of 
times trying to fix it. Apparenty it fixed itself eventually. First 
time I've had this sort of problem in two + years of this setup.

Jim

On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:23  PM, Gary D. Adams wrote:

 Works fine now. Must have been an Airport problem. My son yelled at me
 that his iBook had no signal strength. I was fine--but I'm a whole lot
 closer to the base station.

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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-09 Thread Hal
I've had this happen a few times in the last month or 2. I have an 
original (graphite) base station, and 2 Pismos using it. Rebooting it 
once or twice seems to fix the problem.

-Hal
On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 11:41 AM, Jim Freeman wrote:

 Hmm. I had a strange incident with my airport network the other day. In
 the middle of Jobs' keynote I lost my connection. All three airport
 connected computers in the house had intermittent loss of signal
 strength. I rebooted the base station and all the computers a couple of
 times trying to fix it. Apparenty it fixed itself eventually. First
 time I've had this sort of problem in two + years of this setup.

 Jim

 On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:23  PM, Gary D. Adams wrote:

 Works fine now. Must have been an Airport problem. My son yelled at me
 that his iBook had no signal strength. I was fine--but I'm a whole lot
 closer to the base station.

 Gary



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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-09 Thread Jim Freeman
I'm glad I'm not alone, but why did it happen all of a sudden after 2.5 
years? I have six months left on my AppleCare (Pismo + graphite base 
station), so I want to make sure I fix anything that needs it.

Jim

On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 03:45  PM, Hal wrote:

 I've had this happen a few times in the last month or 2. I have an
 original (graphite) base station, and 2 Pismos using it. Rebooting it
 once or twice seems to fix the problem.

 -Hal
 On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 11:41 AM, Jim Freeman wrote:

 Hmm. I had a strange incident with my airport network the other day. 
 In
 the middle of Jobs' keynote I lost my connection. All three airport


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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-08 Thread Thomas England
Somebody noted:
3. Shift-clicking the zoom box doesn't make it as big as possible like
in Chimera

True, but if you go here:
http://www.apple.com/applescript/safari/

You will find a script which does this for you, among some other interesting
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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-07 Thread Nick
I tried it, seems ok but still has a few rough edges...

on 1/7/03 3:05 PM, Mark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know anything about it yet, but the last item shows that it can
 block pop-ups. http://www.apple.com/safari/
 
 I'll have to download the beta and test drive it.
 
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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-07 Thread Luca Rescigno
 Nick wrote:
 I tried it, seems ok but still has a few rough edges...


 Spill, dude...rough edges, what rough edges?

Here's my list so far:

1. No tabs (not really a rough edge, but I would have liked the feature)
2. Doesn't remember window position/size
3. Shift-clicking the zoom box doesn't make it as big as possible like 
in Chimera
4. You must enable spell checking as you type every time you launch it
5. Although you can choose what items appear in the toolbar, it's not 
as customizable as most
6. When I first got it, the bookmark and bug buttons didn't work until 
I quit and relaunched the application
7. Not as many options when right clicking, less than OmniWeb or even 
Chimera
8. No password manager/keychain (I think this is coming though, it 
could become part of the system keychain)


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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-07 Thread Gary D. Adams
And-- it just doesn't want to load some pages

Gary

Luca Rescigno wrote:
Nick wrote:

I tried it, seems ok but still has a few rough edges...


Spill, dude...rough edges, what rough edges?
 
 
 Here's my list so far:
 
 1. No tabs (not really a rough edge, but I would have liked the feature)
 2. Doesn't remember window position/size
 3. Shift-clicking the zoom box doesn't make it as big as possible like 
 in Chimera
 4. You must enable spell checking as you type every time you launch it
 5. Although you can choose what items appear in the toolbar, it's not 
 as customizable as most
 6. When I first got it, the bookmark and bug buttons didn't work until 
 I quit and relaunched the application
 7. Not as many options when right clicking, less than OmniWeb or even 
 Chimera
 8. No password manager/keychain (I think this is coming though, it 
 could become part of the system keychain)
 
 



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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-07 Thread Demetrius
I've been using safari for about an hour and have seen no problems 
loading any pages. Can you tell us what pages are not loading for you?

Demetrius


On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:10  PM, Gary D. Adams wrote:

 And-- it just doesn't want to load some pages

 Gary

 Luca Rescigno wrote:
 Nick wrote:

 I tried it, seems ok but still has a few rough edges...


 Spill, dude...rough edges, what rough edges?


 Here's my list so far:

 1. No tabs (not really a rough edge, but I would have liked the 
 feature)
 2. Doesn't remember window position/size
 3. Shift-clicking the zoom box doesn't make it as big as possible like
 in Chimera
 4. You must enable spell checking as you type every time you launch it
 5. Although you can choose what items appear in the toolbar, it's not
 as customizable as most
 6. When I first got it, the bookmark and bug buttons didn't work until
 I quit and relaunched the application
 7. Not as many options when right clicking, less than OmniWeb or even
 Chimera
 8. No password manager/keychain (I think this is coming though, it
 could become part of the system keychain)





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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-07 Thread Obi-Wan
On 1/7/03 1:14 PM, Demetrius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the
Cybertrough:

 I've been using safari for about an hour and have seen no problems
 loading any pages. Can you tell us what pages are not loading for you?
 

I've been using for 3 hours and I can't find a single page it won't handle.
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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-07 Thread David M. Ensteness
That is what the bug reporter is for, in fact that is EXACTLY what the 
bug reporter is for, it even says what page, what problem, etc, submit, 
there is even a button for it.

David

On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:10 PM, Gary D. Adams wrote:

 And-- it just doesn't want to load some pages

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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-07 Thread David M. Ensteness
It won't load the pop up on the TechTV page on the left hand side, its 
a JAVA error, buddy of mine found it about 10 minutes after the DL for 
Safari became live, he submitted it.

I haven't yet had any that I have found.

David

On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:15 PM, Obi-Wan wrote:

 On 1/7/03 1:14 PM, Demetrius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the
 Cybertrough:

 I've been using safari for about an hour and have seen no problems
 loading any pages. Can you tell us what pages are not loading for you?


 I've been using for 3 hours and I can't find a single page it won't 
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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-07 Thread Gary D. Adams
Well, it wouldn't handle anything on my ISP's homepages But that may 
be because my Airport was doing strange things--according to my son.

http://personalpages.tds.net



Obi-Wan wrote:
 On 1/7/03 1:14 PM, Demetrius [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spew into the
 Cybertrough:
 
 
I've been using safari for about an hour and have seen no problems
loading any pages. Can you tell us what pages are not loading for you?

 
 
 I've been using for 3 hours and I can't find a single page it won't handle.



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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-07 Thread Gary D. Adams
Works fine now. Must have been an Airport problem. My son yelled at me 
that his iBook had no signal strength. I was fine--but I'm a whole lot 
closer to the base station.

Gary

David M. Ensteness wrote:
 That is what the bug reporter is for, in fact that is EXACTLY what the 
 bug reporter is for, it even says what page, what problem, etc, submit, 
 there is even a button for it.
 
 David
 
 On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:10 PM, Gary D. Adams wrote:
 
 
And-- it just doesn't want to load some pages

Gary
 
 



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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-07 Thread David M. Ensteness
Didn't mean to bark, just really excited about the feedback on it and 
hope people use it to tell Apple what doesn't work.

David

On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:23 PM, Gary D. Adams wrote:

 Works fine now. Must have been an Airport problem. My son yelled at me
 that his iBook had no signal strength. I was fine--but I'm a whole lot
 closer to the base station.

 Gary

 David M. Ensteness wrote:
 That is what the bug reporter is for, in fact that is EXACTLY what the
 bug reporter is for, it even says what page, what problem, etc, 
 submit,
 there is even a button for it.

 David

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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-07 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 07/01/03 17:06, Luca Rescigno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nick wrote:
 I tried it, seems ok but still has a few rough edges...
 
 
 Spill, dude...rough edges, what rough edges?
 
 Here's my list so far:
 
 1. No tabs (not really a rough edge, but I would have liked the feature)
 2. Doesn't remember window position/size
 3. Shift-clicking the zoom box doesn't make it as big as possible like
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 4. You must enable spell checking as you type every time you launch it
 5. Although you can choose what items appear in the toolbar, it's not
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 6. When I first got it, the bookmark and bug buttons didn't work until
 I quit and relaunched the application
 7. Not as many options when right clicking, less than OmniWeb or even
 Chimera
 8. No password manager/keychain (I think this is coming though, it
 could become part of the system keychain)

And doesn't have the ability to tab to any control in a page, only text
fields...

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Re: Safari - Apple own web browser

2003-01-07 Thread Demetrius

On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 06:06  PM, Luca Rescigno wrote:

 Nick wrote:
 I tried it, seems ok but still has a few rough edges...


 Spill, dude...rough edges, what rough edges?

 Here's my list so far:

 1. No tabs (not really a rough edge, but I would have liked the 
 feature)
 2. Doesn't remember window position/size
 3. Shift-clicking the zoom box doesn't make it as big as possible like
 in Chimera
 4. You must enable spell checking as you type every time you launch it
 5. Although you can choose what items appear in the toolbar, it's not
 as customizable as most
 6. When I first got it, the bookmark and bug buttons didn't work until
 I quit and relaunched the application
 7. Not as many options when right clicking, less than OmniWeb or even
 Chimera
 8. No password manager/keychain (I think this is coming though, it
 could become part of the system keychain)



Remember this is a BETA release. I remember when Chimera first came 
out, it was much weaker than Safari. I'm happy Apple is finally getting 
their act together. Thinking different and acting different is what it 
is all about! :-)

How about some of the good things about safari..

Demetrius


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