Re: Which book to buy?

2004-01-01 Thread Nikon's World 
On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, at 10:51  PM, Pauline Turtle-Bear 
Guillermo wrote:

Take a look here at a comparison chart (scroll down page):
http://www.backupbrain.com/2003_10_19_archive.html
Turtle-Bear

On Tuesday, December 30, 2003, at 08:34  PM, btripp wrote:

Hi guys,

  I need an opinion.  Or several as the case may be.

  I'm torn between buying a new 12" ibook G4 and a 12" Powerbook.  It 
has to
be 12".  I really like the new ibook but am concerned about having 
only an
800mhz processor and the smaller cache and lesser graphics.  I can 
however,
trick the thing out with 640mb of ram, airport and the 3 year extended
warranty for about the same price as the powerbook with the options I 
need.

There both great machines. if your able to afford the powerbook go for 
it is a superior machine, if not the iBook is excellent as well.

700MHz iBook running 10.2.8
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Re: Which book to buy?

2004-01-01 Thread David George Hogg 
I personally have been using an ibook, and it is pretty sweet, but if
you can get a PowerBook - GO FOR IT!!! The powerbook is way cooler than
the ibook. (I don't mean in temperature) One of my buddies has a 12" G4
albook and in design - it is more versatile than the ibook and more
pleasing to look at. If I was you I would definitely go for the G4 PB.
David.

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On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, at 07:42  pm, G-Books wrote:

> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:34:50 -0500
> From: btripp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Which book to buy?
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Hi guys,
>
>   I need an opinion.  Or several as the case may be.
>
>   I'm torn between buying a new 12" ibook G4 and a 12" Powerbook.  It 
> has to
> be 12".  I really like the new ibook but am concerned about having 
> only an
> 800mhz processor and the smaller cache and lesser graphics.  I can 
> however,
> trick the thing out with 640mb of ram, airport and the 3 year extended
> warranty for about the same price as the powerbook with the options I 
> need.
>
>   The Powerbook however is faster, has a bigger cache and better 
> video.  Plus
> I could always upgrade the ram far beyond what the ibook allows right?
>
>   I guess what I'm asking for are your opinions on which book to buy.

> I will
> be using it for mostly internet and word processing, but will need the
> occasional power to run gis applications or some other apps.  How good

> is the
> 800mhz ibook compared to the 1ghz powerbook?  To muddy the water more,

> what
> about the 867mhz powerbook?  It has different video than both of the 
> others
> though right?
>
>   Thanks in advance!  Feel free to reply offlist if this has been 
> discussed
> too recently!
>
>   -Ben

I've got a 1st release 12" PB, and it's fine for my needs, but I wish 
I'd waited a couple of months and got the G4 iBook, for the sake of the 
£450 saving! I'm not sure how much difference in practice having 
800Mhz, 867Mhz or even 1Ghz would actually make. Yes you could 
distinguish between them with benchmarks, but in real life? - I don't 
know.

There are a couple of things that you need to know about the iBook 
specs. First, you can put more ram than specified in them - there is a 
company in the US that is selling 1Gb SO-DIMMS that fit into the user 
slot. It's expensive, but the point is that if you need to do it, you 
can. And moving to graphics, there is the 'Open Firmware hack' that 
applies to iBook video, specifically the issue of video mirroring vs. 
spanning. As specified, Powerbooks can do spanning, iBooks are only 
supposed to be able to do mirroring. Actually, it turns out that the 
graphics chip in the iBook is perfectly capable of doing spanning, but 
this capability has been cut back in the iBook firmware (presumably to 
differentiate between it and the Powerbook). How to undo this is fully 
documented on XLR8Yourmac.com.

So - the iBook can take > 1Gb RAM, and it can do monitor spanning.

Tom Burke


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Re: Which book to buy?

2004-01-01 Thread Tom Burke 
On Wednesday, December 31, 2003, at 07:42  pm, G-Books wrote:

Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:34:50 -0500
From: btripp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Which book to buy?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi guys,

  I need an opinion.  Or several as the case may be.

  I'm torn between buying a new 12" ibook G4 and a 12" Powerbook.  It 
has to
be 12".  I really like the new ibook but am concerned about having 
only an
800mhz processor and the smaller cache and lesser graphics.  I can 
however,
trick the thing out with 640mb of ram, airport and the 3 year extended
warranty for about the same price as the powerbook with the options I 
need.

  The Powerbook however is faster, has a bigger cache and better 
video.  Plus
I could always upgrade the ram far beyond what the ibook allows right?

  I guess what I'm asking for are your opinions on which book to buy.  
I will
be using it for mostly internet and word processing, but will need the
occasional power to run gis applications or some other apps.  How good 
is the
800mhz ibook compared to the 1ghz powerbook?  To muddy the water more, 
what
about the 867mhz powerbook?  It has different video than both of the 
others
though right?

  Thanks in advance!  Feel free to reply offlist if this has been 
discussed
too recently!

  -Ben
I've got a 1st release 12" PB, and it's fine for my needs, but I wish 
I'd waited a couple of months and got the G4 iBook, for the sake of the 
£450 saving! I'm not sure how much difference in practice having 
800Mhz, 867Mhz or even 1Ghz would actually make. Yes you could 
distinguish between them with benchmarks, but in real life? - I don't 
know.

There are a couple of things that you need to know about the iBook 
specs. First, you can put more ram than specified in them - there is a 
company in the US that is selling 1Gb SO-DIMMS that fit into the user 
slot. It's expensive, but the point is that if you need to do it, you 
can. And moving to graphics, there is the 'Open Firmware hack' that 
applies to iBook video, specifically the issue of video mirroring vs. 
spanning. As specified, Powerbooks can do spanning, iBooks are only 
supposed to be able to do mirroring. Actually, it turns out that the 
graphics chip in the iBook is perfectly capable of doing spanning, but 
this capability has been cut back in the iBook firmware (presumably to 
differentiate between it and the Powerbook). How to undo this is fully 
documented on XLR8Yourmac.com.

So - the iBook can take > 1Gb RAM, and it can do monitor spanning.

Tom Burke

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Re: Which book to buy?

2003-12-31 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo 
Take a look here at a comparison chart (scroll down page):
http://www.backupbrain.com/2003_10_19_archive.html
Turtle-Bear

On Tuesday, December 30, 2003, at 08:34  PM, btripp wrote:

Hi guys,

  I need an opinion.  Or several as the case may be.

  I'm torn between buying a new 12" ibook G4 and a 12" Powerbook.  It 
has to
be 12".  I really like the new ibook but am concerned about having 
only an
800mhz processor and the smaller cache and lesser graphics.  I can 
however,
trick the thing out with 640mb of ram, airport and the 3 year extended
warranty for about the same price as the powerbook with the options I 
need.


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