Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question

2005-12-09 Thread BGbank
Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 1:21 PM

 Everything like MHz, RAM and even HD speed makes a difference in how
 the OS will run. For the average user hard drive size only makes a
 difference if it gets loaded too full, but mostly it just limits you
 to how many apps you can have installed. Adding RAM will improve any
 Macs performance and is easy to do. Adding RAM is always the first
 thing I do with a new Mac and I try to add as much as I can afford. In
 my opinion RAM gives the best return on your money of all the things
 you can add to a computer.

Thanks for the advice.  I should've put more RAM on this clamshell a long
time ago.  I had always heard clamshells were hard to open and install RAM
so was never anxious to mess with it.  Would rather put any $ toward
something a little bigger/faster.

 I have a Clamshell 466MHz G3 with a 10GB drive that I have Tiger
 running on with 320MB of RAM and it does ok on surfing and light duty.
 I may end up putting Panther back on it because it was snappier than
 Tiger is and for what I use the Clamshell for I don't need the added
 perks of Tiger.

I can't imagine fitting another OS of any kind of this 6gig, and I really
don't have that many apps for the same reason.  So I keep it for internet
and email and some word-processing, but want to add a newer faster laptop.

And I definitely wanted Tiger on whatever newer machine because I heard that
spotlight is awesome for finding emails (I heard Walt Mossberg, WSJ techie,
on Charlie Rose one night rave about spotlight and how easy it is to find
emails, and that's exactly why I want Tiger.  I've got a yahoo email list
and I just can't find emails anymore - I've reached the boggled-mind limit,
lol).

 I also had a 300MHz Clamshell with 320MB of RAM and a 6GB hard drive
 running Panther but the hard drive size was too small for what I want
 loaded on it. Panther ran fine on it though and with thorough cleaning
 and burning files to CD's it is easy to keep the junk from overloading
 the Mac.

Well, that's yet another reason I wanted a newer ibook, so it would have
CDRW on it!  Zips don't hold much anymore and I want an INTERNAL CDRW vs.
all this stuff hanging off the ibook, like the zip and USB-hub, etc.

 One thing about the seller who has the iBook is that he is probably
 reputable but just does not have the OS CD's to sell with it. Too many
 eBay sellers sell computers with a newer OS but no CD's which is
 software pirating and generally is a sign of their honesty. Without
 the CD's the hard drive should be wiped clean. So at least he didn't
 add Panther or Tiger to the iBook to sell it for more money and that's
 a good sign.

Thank you for explaining that!  I just replied to the guy and asked why he
did NOT have an OS on it!  ;-)   Thanks!

BTW, it appears they sell more pc's than mac's so I was thinking maybe they
didn't know too much about macs.

 Even the Swaplist has far too many Macs for sale that have newer OS's
 installed without CD's included in the sale, which is pirated software
 and also a violation of the LEM rules but apparently the nanny never
 reads the posts.
 --
 Ron
 http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/

Ops!  Cat's out of the bag now! ;-)
Gail

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On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  OS 9 on a G4 is like driving a Cadillac with a Chevette motor in it.
  Ron

 heehee, good one!  ;-)
 What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster?
 Ram size, or HD size, or mhz/ghz size?
 Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook?
 The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but
 one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon
 someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger.

 THANKS Ron,  Dylan, and Laurent!  With all that advice I now have a much
 clearer idea of what I'm doing!
 Best regards,
 Gail
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Re: Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question

2005-12-09 Thread Van Snyder
 snip   I've got a yahoo email list
 and I just can't find emails anymore - I've reached the boggled-mind limit,
 lol).


ah, the beauty of Gmail.  I would never argue against the merits of
Tiger, but if the email is the one thing pushing you over the edge,
you might want to consider moving to gmail.

I would assume anyone with gmail would have plenty of invites - I know
I have 100.

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Gmail Gbooks - (was: Re: Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question)

2005-12-09 Thread BGbank
 Van Snyder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 2:43 PM
 
 snip   I've got a yahoo email list and I just can't find emails anymore -
 I've reached the boggled-mind limit lol).
 
 ah, the beauty of Gmail.  I would never argue against the merits of Tiger,
 but if the email is the one thing pushing you over the edge, you might want
 to consider moving to gmail. I would assume anyone with gmail would have
 plenty of invites - I know I have 100.
 --Van

Hi Van, when I first heard of gmail sometime back I got excited about it and
tried to sign up but at the time it said I didn't have the
correct-something... maybe it was browser, can't remember now.  I'm using
the highest IE there is for OS9, so I'm stuck until I move up to OSX.  So I
checked again just now and it says something about by invite only...?

A few days ago I saw two authors on TV who had written books about google...
The Search and I think the other was Google Company.  Maybe it's the
same for all search engine companies, but the one man said google stores
every single search done by every single person on the planet which, google
says, is so they can come up with better services, etc., but this author
said it could also be used, for instance, in divorce cases where a spouse
could get all the search info on their partner, etc., so he didn't think it
was a good thing.


 Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 3:55 PM
 
 And Gmail has none of that flashy crap all over the page that Yahoo
 seems to get more and more of.. I highly recommend Gmail and I was
 never a fan of on-line mail services until Gmail came along.

I've never used webmail either... too cumbersome, too slow (or at least it
WAS).  Who wants to have to go log on the net just to get into your email?

 I had a Yahoo account for years but rarely used it and I use Gmail
 exclusively now. 

Wow, big switch.  I've never used any yahoo accounts I ever made either.
They almost make you have one just to use their other services, but it's a
waste of space.  I don't like yahoo search engine either.  I love google
search, totally clean search page, no junk, etc.

 I don't use my ISP email at all because Gmail is so
 much easier. 

Wow, now THAT I would have to see and experience!  ;-)

 I've used Gmail for a couple of years almost and have
 used 7% of my storage space and I could have thrown away a bunch more
 but I keep an archive of this list and 3 others.
 --
 Ron
 http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/

That's amazing... I may have to give it a test run with one of my lesser
accounts and see how it feels.
Thanks!  Very interesting!  I do LOVE google search feature, and I love all
websites that have a google search feature.  None others compare to it as
far as I'm concerned.  So what if they are saving all my searches, lol, I'm
probably already considered a domestic terrorist (=by having politically
incorrect opinions).
Gail


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Re: Gmail Gbooks - (was: Re: Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question)

2005-12-09 Thread Krow Magnum
On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Van, when I first heard of gmail sometime back I got excited about it and
 tried to sign up but at the time it said I didn't have the
 correct-something... maybe it was browser, can't remember now.  I'm using
 the highest IE there is for OS9, so I'm stuck until I move up to OSX.  So I
 checked again just now and it says something about by invite only...?

Try Wacom Mozilla, it works fine with OS 9 and gmail:

http://www.wamcom.org/

And you can get rid of Internet Exploiter hopefully ! Wamcom Mozilla 
handles a lot of the new sites too but you may still need Exploiter
for site like Bank sites.

Another alternative is iCab:

http://www.icab.de

 A few days ago I saw two authors on TV who had written books about google...
 The Search and I think the other was Google Company.  Maybe it's the
 same for all search engine companies, but the one man said google stores
 every single search done by every single person on the planet which, google
 says, is so they can come up with better services, etc., but this author
 said it could also be used, for instance, in divorce cases where a spouse
 could get all the search info on their partner, etc., so he didn't think it
 was a good thing.


 Wow, big switch.  I've never used any yahoo accounts I ever made either.
 They almost make you have one just to use their other services, but it's a
 waste of space.

LOL, that's the only reason I have one too.


 So what if they are saving all my searches, lol, I'm
 probably already considered a domestic terrorist (=by having politically
 incorrect opinions).
 Gail



I'm sure you'll be in good company on those lists !

I'm on all the lists. I'd rather be politically incorrect any day.

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Re: Gmail Gbooks - (was: Re: Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question)

2005-12-09 Thread Caleb Cupples


I'm sure you'll be in good company on those lists !

I'm on all the lists. I'd rather be politically incorrect any 
day.



I do agree with you.

Back on topic, I'm using Gmail with the POP3 turned on, with Mail on my 
Lombard, and I find it's a lot faster than the webmail, plus it has the 
beauty of the Mac to go with it.. :D


Caleb


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