Re: Thoughts on a trade

[Mikael Byström]

Muddle Man said:

>As I understand it, a dual processor is only about 1/3
>faster than it's actual Mhz rating in OS X (since OS X
>supports dual processors). 

Not with Logic and Maya! What are your sources for that claim if 1/3 faster?


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Re: Thoughts on a trade

[Muddle Man]

Knowing these things probably would have changed our
suggestions as well.

I struggled with the same exact problem before I
bought my G4 733 QuickSilver. As you can read, I
decided on the single processor.

As I understand it, a dual processor is only about 1/3
faster than it's actual Mhz rating in OS X (since OS X
supports dual processors). For most tasks you'll be
better off with the single 733. The only exception
would be if you are using a new version of Photoshop
and do serious work with it (since it supports mutiple
processors as well).

I had a B&W G3 450 before my 733. I had an ATA
controller in it and multiple drives. It worked fine
most of the time, but gave me a hassle occasionally.
My QuickSilver, however, as given me NO problems at
all. I am extremely happy with it. Do yourself a favor
and get as much RAM as you can (I maxed mine out to
1.5 and haven't looked back).

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> asnwer, just a few additional points of discussion.
> 
> 1.  Portability - While I appreciate everyone saying
> I should stick
> with my Ti Powerbook, my mind is already make up to
> move to desktop. 
> I have a computer at work already and that is pretty
> much the only
> other place I use my laptop.  For portability I
> would have to say what
> I have sucks.  I have broken hinges which means I
> always need to be up
> against the wall.  Also have a battery which only
> gives me about 30
> minutes of use and a lot less if doing anything CPU
> heavy.
>  One of the main reasons I want to get a desktop
> is to leave it at
> home where I can have an FTP server setup and also
> want to use it as a
> Tivo type DVR.
>  Another problem as I see it with the Powerbook
> is a complete lack
> of upgradability.  I can't put in a better video
> card, can't put in a
> new CPU.  Already maxed out my ram.  I am definitly
> a tinkerer as far
> as my hardware goes.  I enjoy the flexibility that a
> tower would give
> me as far as upgradaibility (if that is even a
> word).
> 
> 2.  My main question - Still have not gotten an
> answer as far as the
> performace difference between a dual G4/450 and a
> single G4/733.  The
> machine will be used mainly for web surfing, e-mail,
> watching movies,
> and also host a VERY low usage FTP server.  Does
> anyone have any
> thoughts which would be better?
> 
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Thoughts on a trade

[Orlando Mac Geek]

First off I would like to thank everyone for taking the time to
asnwer, just a few additional points of discussion.

1.  Portability - While I appreciate everyone saying I should stick
with my Ti Powerbook, my mind is already make up to move to desktop. 
I have a computer at work already and that is pretty much the only
other place I use my laptop.  For portability I would have to say what
I have sucks.  I have broken hinges which means I always need to be up
against the wall.  Also have a battery which only gives me about 30
minutes of use and a lot less if doing anything CPU heavy.
 One of the main reasons I want to get a desktop is to leave it at
home where I can have an FTP server setup and also want to use it as a
Tivo type DVR.
 Another problem as I see it with the Powerbook is a complete lack
of upgradability.  I can't put in a better video card, can't put in a
new CPU.  Already maxed out my ram.  I am definitly a tinkerer as far
as my hardware goes.  I enjoy the flexibility that a tower would give
me as far as upgradaibility (if that is even a word).

2.  My main question - Still have not gotten an answer as far as the
performace difference between a dual G4/450 and a single G4/733.  The
machine will be used mainly for web surfing, e-mail, watching movies,
and also host a VERY low usage FTP server.  Does anyone have any
thoughts which would be better?

Orlando Mac Geek

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Re: Thoughts on a trade

[Muddle Man]

I would keep the TiBook. I have an iBook and a
Quicksilver that I use for different purposes, but if
you are only doing what you describe then you will
want to keep your portability. Just MHO.

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> Mainly just day to day general use, web, e-mail, web
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> On Apr 4, 2005 5:47 AM, Mikael Byström
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> > 
> > >Titanium Powerbook 667 I am thinking of trading
> for a
> > >dual G4-450 desktop.  Anyone out there have any
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> > >performace difference of the two assuming 768 Mb
> of RAM in both?
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Re: Thoughts on a trade

[Andrea Stansbury]

Well I got a desktop for a laptop once.  The desktop was a mac, the 
laptop was a dell.  Still regretted it.

On Apr 4, 2005, at 7:13 PM, Andrew wrote:
Almost ANYONE who trades a laptop for a desktop usually ends up 
regretting
it, IME.

Andrew
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I had the 520c 68040 I think... and yes we spent a lot of money on the
darned cables.  I found one of the old powerbook cables with the 25 pin
scsi and the funky square hook up.  Still works I guess.
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I regret sometimes for selling on E-Bay. I spent more on cables (scsi,
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Re: Thoughts on a trade

[Andrea Stansbury]

I had the 520c 68040 I think... and yes we spent a lot of money on the 
darned cables.  I found one of the old powerbook cables with the 25 pin 
scsi and the funky square hook up.  Still works I guess.
On Apr 4, 2005, at 6:35 AM, Brian Stewart wrote:

Hey... I have a B&W with a G4-500, when do you want to meet?
Seriously, pickup a mac-mini for $500 and have both. You will regret 
swapping the powerbook. I had a 520 powerbook (yes an old 68xxx) that 
I regret sometimes for selling on E-Bay. I spent more on cables (scsi, 
video, serial) then I did for the darn laptop.

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Re: Thoughts on a trade

[Andrew]

Almost ANYONE who trades a laptop for a desktop usually ends up regretting
it, IME.

Andrew

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I had the 520c 68040 I think... and yes we spent a lot of money on the 
darned cables.  I found one of the old powerbook cables with the 25 pin 
scsi and the funky square hook up.  Still works I guess.
On Apr 4, 2005, at 6:35 AM, Brian Stewart wrote:

>
> Hey... I have a B&W with a G4-500, when do you want to meet?
>
> Seriously, pickup a mac-mini for $500 and have both. You will regret 
> swapping the powerbook. I had a 520 powerbook (yes an old 68xxx) that 
> I regret sometimes for selling on E-Bay. I spent more on cables (scsi, 
> video, serial) then I did for the darn laptop.
>
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Re: Thoughts on a trade

[Brian Stewart]

If you need a desktop and you are cash strapped (join the club) I would 
pick up an external monitor, keyboard and mouse. The video adapter for 
my powerbook was $25.00, a usb keyboard and mouse is another $40. If 
you need more room or a better CD burner you can go with external 
firewire.

I run the above setup, Fireware drives, usb keyboard/mouse and video 
with my powerbook. I also picked up a $40 USB/KVM switch so I can use 
my PeeCee and my powerbook. I suspect my powerbook is getting some 
PeeCee Cotties even tho I run a recent version of 
Bill_Gates_Blocker_2005.

Like I said, I do have a B&W G4 :-)
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Re: Thoughts on a trade

[Orlando Mac Geek]

If I had an extra $500 I WOULD pick up a mini.  Unfortunately we are
not all so financially blessed and I need a machine to sit at home to
do more server/dvr work.  The portability is not really an issue for
me.

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Re: Thoughts on a trade

[Orlando Mac Geek]

Mainly just day to day general use, web, e-mail, web design, listening to music.

On Apr 4, 2005 5:47 AM, Mikael Byström <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Orlando Mac Geek said:
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> >Titanium Powerbook 667 I am thinking of trading for a
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Re: Thoughts on a trade

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Re: Thoughts on a trade

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Orlando Mac Geek said:

>Titanium Powerbook 667 I am thinking of trading for a
>dual G4-450 desktop.  Anyone out there have any thoughts on the
>performace difference of the two assuming 768 Mb of RAM in both?

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Re: Thoughts on a trade

[Andrew]

Only the obvious that the desktop will be absolutely useless anywhere other
than at a desk.  Sounds to me like one of those trades that will be fun for
a few days and that you will deeply regret later on.  Specifically, I've
never known anyone to say that they wished their laptop was less portable.

Andrew

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Subject: Thoughts on a trade

Sorry if this is a bit off topic but I am seeking opinions.  I
currently have a Titanium Powerbook 667 I am thinking of trading for a
dual G4-450 desktop.  Anyone out there have any thoughts on the
performace difference of the two assuming 768 Mb of RAM in both?

Orlando Mac Geek

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Thoughts on a trade

[Orlando Mac Geek]

Sorry if this is a bit off topic but I am seeking opinions.  I
currently have a Titanium Powerbook 667 I am thinking of trading for a
dual G4-450 desktop.  Anyone out there have any thoughts on the
performace difference of the two assuming 768 Mb of RAM in both?

Orlando Mac Geek

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