Re: Tiger onto my iBook

2005-07-27 Thread bobgir2004
 I purchased Tiger and, expectedly, it came on DVD.  I have a 700m Mhz,
 G3 dual USB iBook.  I tried to install Tiger on my external DVD drive,
 but no luck.  I couldn't select it as my startup drive in System
 Preferences.

Do you have an iPod?  You can use it to install Tiger on your iBook.

I believe I saved this from one of the major Mac sites (MacFixIt, etc).

^
Turn your iPod into a bootable Tiger installation disk. Here's how:
1.Make a backup copy of your iPod if necessary (it will be erased in
the next step!)
2.Using Disk Utility, format (Erase) the iPod.
3.Use the Restore feature in Disk Utility to create an image of the
Tiger DVD on your iPod (drag the DVD into the source textbox; drag your iPod
into the destination textbox).
4.You can then plug your iPod in any Mac and launch the Install
Tiger software, let it reboot, and follow the instructions to install it!
When you're done, you might want to re-erase the iPod, and restore the
latest iPod Software on your iPod.

(Yep, did this with my iPod mini for my wife's 500MHz G3. Something that's
worth mentioning, is that this method (from any Firewire drive, not just an
iPod) is better than installing to the computer in question via target disc
mode. The installation routine makes many decisions based on the hardware
that the installer is being run on, and of course, is blind to any hardware
surrounding the drive if you turn your iMac/eMac/iBook in target mode.
And AFAIK, you won't even have a usable install if you try to go from one
processor family to another. IOW, if you have a G5 and do an install on your
G4 iBook in target mode, your installation won't work.)
^

ciao, bob




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Tiger onto my iBook

2005-07-26 Thread David Harris

Hi:

I purchased Tiger and, expectedly, it came on DVD.  I have a 700m Mhz, 
G3 dual USB iBook.  I tried to install Tiger on my external DVD drive, 
but no luck.  I couldn't select it as my startup drive in System 
Preferences.


I have one last chance at installation, though, as I have a 900Mhz, 
dual USB G3 iBook with a combo drive and a FireWire.  How do I do it?  
Does anyone know how to link them together by FireWire?  Is the combo 
drive started up in target mode?   When do I hold down the T key (I 
thought that it was the Y-key)?  Is there a web page to explain how to 
do it?


Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
dmjh 



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Re: Tiger onto my iBook

2005-07-26 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 26/07/05 23:42, David Harris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi:
 
 I purchased Tiger and, expectedly, it came on DVD.  I have a 700m Mhz,
 G3 dual USB iBook.  I tried to install Tiger on my external DVD drive,
 but no luck.  I couldn't select it as my startup drive in System
 Preferences.
 
 I have one last chance at installation, though, as I have a 900Mhz,
 dual USB G3 iBook with a combo drive and a FireWire.  How do I do it?
 Does anyone know how to link them together by FireWire?  Is the combo
 drive started up in target mode?   When do I hold down the T key (I
 thought that it was the Y-key)?  Is there a web page to explain how to
 do it?
 
 Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 dmjh 
 

David,

If your iBook only have USB like I suspect, then you won't be able to boot
in FireWire target disk mode. If I'm wrong, then you reboot your iBook and
then press the 'T' key immediately until you see the FireWire logo on the
screen. Then, you just connect both iBook with a FireWire cable. Again, I'm
not sure that the 700MHz has FireWire, so what I've just explained might be
a moot point...

You might have to contact Apple to get Tiger on CDs. I think there is a
small fee for that. You should be able to find more information about this
on the Apple web site.

-Laurent.
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Re: Tiger onto my iBook

2005-07-26 Thread David Harris


On Jul 27, 2005, at 12:41 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:


on 26/07/05 23:42, David Harris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi:

I purchased Tiger and, expectedly, it came on DVD.  I have a 700m Mhz,
G3 dual USB iBook.  I tried to install Tiger on my external DVD drive,
but no luck.  I couldn't select it as my startup drive in System
Preferences.

I have one last chance at installation, though, as I have a 900Mhz,
dual USB G3 iBook with a combo drive and a FireWire.  How do I do it?
Does anyone know how to link them together by FireWire?  Is the combo
drive started up in target mode?   When do I hold down the T key (I
thought that it was the Y-key)?  Is there a web page to explain how to
do it?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
dmjh



David,

If your iBook only have USB like I suspect, then you won't be able to  
boot
in FireWire target disk mode. If I'm wrong, then you reboot your iBook  
and
then press the 'T' key immediately until you see the FireWire logo on  
the
screen. Then, you just connect both iBook with a FireWire cable.  
Again, I'm
not sure that the 700MHz has FireWire, so what I've just explained  
might be

a moot point...

You might have to contact Apple to get Tiger on CDs. I think there is a
small fee for that. You should be able to find more information about  
this

on the Apple web site.

-Laurent.
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Hi:

Yes the 700 Mhz iBook does have a FireWire port between the ethernet  
connection and the USB ports.  I see the familiar Y underneath it.


Which iBook do I boot up into target mode, the one with the combo drive  
or the one with the CD-ROM?


Thanks, and sorry if I seem frustrating.
dmjh


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Re: Tiger onto my iBook

2005-07-26 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 27/07/05 00:57, David Harris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jul 27, 2005, at 12:41 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
 
 on 26/07/05 23:42, David Harris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi:
 
 I purchased Tiger and, expectedly, it came on DVD.  I have a 700m Mhz,
 G3 dual USB iBook.  I tried to install Tiger on my external DVD drive,
 but no luck.  I couldn't select it as my startup drive in System
 Preferences.
 
 I have one last chance at installation, though, as I have a 900Mhz,
 dual USB G3 iBook with a combo drive and a FireWire.  How do I do it?
 Does anyone know how to link them together by FireWire?  Is the combo
 drive started up in target mode?   When do I hold down the T key (I
 thought that it was the Y-key)?  Is there a web page to explain how to
 do it?
 
 Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 dmjh
 
 
 David,
 
 If your iBook only have USB like I suspect, then you won't be able to
 boot
 in FireWire target disk mode. If I'm wrong, then you reboot your iBook
 and
 then press the 'T' key immediately until you see the FireWire logo on
 the
 screen. Then, you just connect both iBook with a FireWire cable.
 Again, I'm
 not sure that the 700MHz has FireWire, so what I've just explained
 might be
 a moot point...
 
 You might have to contact Apple to get Tiger on CDs. I think there is a
 small fee for that. You should be able to find more information about
 this
 on the Apple web site.
 
 -Laurent.
 
 Hi:
 
 Yes the 700 Mhz iBook does have a FireWire port between the ethernet
 connection and the USB ports.  I see the familiar Y underneath it.
 
 Which iBook do I boot up into target mode, the one with the combo drive
 or the one with the CD-ROM?
 
 Thanks, and sorry if I seem frustrating.
 dmjh
 

Well, to use FireWire target disk mode, *BOTH* your iBooks have to have
FireWire. Because that's how you're going to connect them together, using a
FireWire cable.

Do *both* of your iBooks have built-in FireWire?

-Laurent.
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Re: Tiger onto my iBook

2005-07-26 Thread David Harris


On Jul 27, 2005, at 1:02 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:


Well, to use FireWire target disk mode, *BOTH* your iBooks have to have
FireWire. Because that's how you're going to connect them together, 
using a

FireWire cable.

Do *both* of your iBooks have built-in FireWire?

-Laurent.


Hi:

Yes, both have a 6-pin FireWire port.

Thanks,
dmjh


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Re: Tiger onto my iBook

2005-07-26 Thread Peter Apockotos


On Jul 26, 2005, at 11:42 PM, David Harris wrote:


Hi:

I purchased Tiger and, expectedly, it came on DVD.  I have a 700m  
Mhz, G3 dual USB iBook.  I tried to install Tiger on my external  
DVD drive, but no luck.  I couldn't select it as my startup drive  
in System Preferences.


I have one last chance at installation, though, as I have a 900Mhz,  
dual USB G3 iBook with a combo drive and a FireWire.  How do I do  
it?  Does anyone know how to link them together by FireWire?  Is  
the combo drive started up in target mode?   When do I hold down  
the T key (I thought that it was the Y-key)?  Is there a web page  
to explain how to do it?


Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
dmjh



I installed Tiger via my LaCie Porsche external firewire dvd drive.
Connect your external drive.  Put the tiger dvd in.  Let it load on  
the desktop and then run the installer and it will reboot and start  
from the dvd to install.



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Re: Tiger onto my iBook

2005-07-26 Thread Dylan McDermond


On Jul 26, 2005, at 8:42 PM, David Harris wrote:


I have one last chance at installation, though, as I have a 900Mhz,  
dual USB G3 iBook with a combo drive and a FireWire.  How do I do  
it?  Does anyone know how to link them together by FireWire?  Is  
the combo drive started up in target mode?   When do I hold down  
the T key (I thought that it was the Y-key)?  Is there a web page  
to explain how to do it?


Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.


I did this on a slot load CD-ROM only iMacDV. Connect both iBooks to  
one another with the firewire cable. Boot up the iBook with the CD- 
ROM to a normal desktop. Next boot the put Tiger DVD in the combo  
drive and boot that iBook with the T key held down. This will make  
it appear as a set of external drives that should mount on your  
desktop. Now select the Tiger DVD as the startup disk and you should  
be set. Worked 100% on that iMacDV anyways.


- Dylan


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Re: Tiger onto my iBook

2005-07-26 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 27/07/05 01:22, David Harris at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On Jul 27, 2005, at 1:02 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
 
 Well, to use FireWire target disk mode, *BOTH* your iBooks have to have
 FireWire. Because that's how you're going to connect them together,
 using a
 FireWire cable.
 
 Do *both* of your iBooks have built-in FireWire?
 
 -Laurent.
 
 Hi:
 
 Yes, both have a 6-pin FireWire port.
 
 Thanks,
 dmjh
 

Then, assuming you have a regular FireWire cable, boot the one you want to
install Tiger on in FireWire target disk mode. Press 'T' right after
rebooting and hold T down until you see the the FireWire logo on the
screen.

Then, reboot your 900MHz, the one with the combo drive, and startup from the
Tiger installation DVD. Connect your 700MHz to the 900MHz using the FireWire
cable. When you get to the installer, the 700MHz hard disk should be there,
with the FireWire icon on it. Proceed with the installation by selecting
this drive. If possible, do a clean install or, at least, do an Archive 
Install.

Once the installer has finished, reboot your 900MHz. Right after you hear
the startup sound, unplug the FireWire cable from both iBook.

Then, press the Power button on your 700MHz iBook. Once the iBook has
shutdown, press the power key again and it should boot from your Tiger
installation.

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