Re: Volume Wrapper
Whether it's corrupted during or after formatting the drive, what's the difference. The end result is the same, and one still needs to rule out the same possible issues (software, hardware (drive), hardware (logic)). Yet, the damage doesn't need to come from bad formatting... the data can corrupt just like any other file on the disk, as it is accessed and changed by OS X periodically. On Sep 20, 2003, at 12:17 PM, Hamlin Krewson wrote: On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 11:52 AM, Adam Thayer wrote: Sorry, the Volume Wrapper is actually an HFS+ specific thing. The Volume Wrapper is a chunk of HFS information to allow the ROMs in older machines to properly boot an HFS+ drive, Which would make it part of the formatting process (for HFS+). It's a part of the formatting process I believe. Bad formatting, bad drive, bad logic. Hamlin On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 04:08 PM, Dr. John Pullyblank wrote: -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Volume Wrapper
Yet, the damage doesn't need to come from bad formatting... the data can corrupt just like any other file on the disk, as it is accessed and changed by OS X periodically. On Sep 20, 2003, at 12:17 PM, Hamlin Krewson wrote: On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 11:52 AM, Adam Thayer wrote: Sorry, the Volume Wrapper is actually an HFS+ specific thing. The Volume Wrapper is a chunk of HFS information to allow the ROMs in older machines to properly boot an HFS+ drive, Which would make it part of the formatting process (for HFS+). It's a part of the formatting process I believe. Bad formatting, bad drive, bad logic. Hamlin On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 04:08 PM, Dr. John Pullyblank wrote: -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Volume Wrapper
On Saturday, September 20, 2003, at 11:52 AM, Adam Thayer wrote: Sorry, the Volume Wrapper is actually an HFS+ specific thing. The Volume Wrapper is a chunk of HFS information to allow the ROMs in older machines to properly boot an HFS+ drive, Which would make it part of the formatting process (for HFS+). It's a part of the formatting process I believe. Bad formatting, bad drive, bad logic. Hamlin On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 04:08 PM, Dr. John Pullyblank wrote: -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Volume Wrapper
Sorry, the Volume Wrapper is actually an HFS+ specific thing. The Volume Wrapper is a chunk of HFS information to allow the ROMs in older machines to properly boot an HFS+ drive, since this wrapper is part of the HFS+ specification, all HFS+ partitions have it. The significance could be large or small... but personally, I would run Disk Utility off the OS X install CD (if your iBook has it) to do the repairs of something like that rather than Disk Warrior. If Disk Utility can't fix it... then it would appear to be a bad drive, run the Hardware Diagnostic CD that came with the iBook and if errors come up there, it is time to call Apple to get the drive replaced. On Sep 19, 2003, at 2:27 PM, Hamlin Krewson wrote: It's a part of the formatting process I believe. Bad formatting, bad drive, bad logic. Hamlin On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 04:08 PM, Dr. John Pullyblank wrote: Hi, I have just replaced my Wallstreet with a new iBook. When I run DiskWarrior 3, some scans indicate that there is a serious problem with the volume wrapper that it then fixes. Can anybody remind me of what a volume wrapper is, the significance of errors with it, and why this problem may reoccur? Thanks for any help. John -- -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Re: Volume Wrapper
It's a part of the formatting process I believe. Bad formatting, bad drive, bad logic. Hamlin On Friday, September 19, 2003, at 04:08 PM, Dr. John Pullyblank wrote: Hi, I have just replaced my Wallstreet with a new iBook. When I run DiskWarrior 3, some scans indicate that there is a serious problem with the volume wrapper that it then fixes. Can anybody remind me of what a volume wrapper is, the significance of errors with it, and why this problem may reoccur? Thanks for any help. John -- -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---
Volume Wrapper
Hi, I have just replaced my Wallstreet with a new iBook. When I run DiskWarrior 3, some scans indicate that there is a serious problem with the volume wrapper that it then fixes. Can anybody remind me of what a volume wrapper is, the significance of errors with it, and why this problem may reoccur? Thanks for any help. John -- -- G-Books is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | & CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> G-Books list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/> --- The Think Different Store http://www.ThinkDifferentStore.com ---