Re: Wallstreet 1 - no battery indication, Open Firmware note

2004-06-21 Thread Mikael Byström
Tracy, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I have to agree with previous posters that getting into Open Firmware 
on a Wallstreet 1 is very difficult. I *can* get it to happen, but I 
have to try many times. It works maybe once out of every dozen 
attempts. There must be a very small window of time when they keys need 
to be pressed. It seems to be just after the startup sound begins (not 
before) and not more than, say, a half second after it starts. At least 
that is my best guess, and even then it is hit or miss.

Try and *shut down* the machine before you boot up into OF. For some
reason that gave me better results before.


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Wallstreet 1 - no battery indication, Open Firmware note

2004-06-20 Thread Tracy Lakin
Hi all,
My Wallstreet 1 does not see my battery anymore. No matter which side I 
insert it on, the battery menu in my menu bar (OS X 10.2.8) says no 
battery available. Does anyone know if this means the battery is dead 
and at fault, or is it one of the internal circuits?

I replaced the PMU a few months ago, as well as the backup battery to 
resurrect the computer. So the suspect circuit, i would guess, would be 
the Charge Card, Power Supply 922-3359 as noted in the Apple take 
apart documents.

I also use the magnet down the side of the display trick to wake up 
the computer since I upgraded the hard disk (as mentioned on this list 
before, and is also described here: 
http://homepage.mac.com/techedgeezine/cart_mac_pb2.html).

reset-all in Open Firmware did not help.
Open Firmware on Wallstreet 1
I have to agree with previous posters that getting into Open Firmware 
on a Wallstreet 1 is very difficult. I *can* get it to happen, but I 
have to try many times. It works maybe once out of every dozen 
attempts. There must be a very small window of time when they keys need 
to be pressed. It seems to be just after the startup sound begins (not 
before) and not more than, say, a half second after it starts. At least 
that is my best guess, and even then it is hit or miss.

One interesting thing I found when Googling for Open Firmware 
information is that alt-alt-O-F was mentioned on one site instead of 
Command-Option-O-F. Given that the Options keys are both sub-labeled 
alt I tried holding both Option keys and O and F. Did not work. BUT, 
when I use both Option keys, Command and O and F it seems to work 
better. So that's five keys held. Also, it seems to work better if the 
modifiers are held just before holding down the O and F keys. Makes the 
timing of the whole affair tricky.

I'm going to the Apple WWDC in a week. I'll try to corner Apple 
hardware folks on this Open Firmware issue. I remember that some of the 
core OS guys had Wallstreets from talking to them in past WWDC's. Hope 
they all still work for Apple.

Tracy
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