Re: Wallstreet battery probs?

2005-04-21 Thread Malcolm Cornelius
  but I think
 that the main batteries have to be in working order for the PRAM battery to
 recharge.

Why - I would have thought it was more likely to recharge if there were no
batteries in taking current ?

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Re: Wallstreet battery probs?

2005-04-21 Thread Mikael Byström
Laurent Daudelin said:

It could also be the PRAM battery, but I think
that the main batteries have to be in working order for the PRAM battery to
recharge.

I have charged batteries with a dead PRAM on the Wallstreet II and also
had a working PRAM hold the data (dates and so on) without a working
battery or even without one. So I think they are unrelated. But the
charge board coudl have been damaged I suppose or there is no contact
internally. Also there is the issue with shielding tape touching the
outer ring on the power adapter connector.

I'd try the batteries in another wallstreet and if dead there too I'd put
them in a freezer to see if that coudl help (as have been discussed on
the list. Have had no such luck myself). Also had a total reset revive
things once in a WS I.

If dead, remember to give the batteries to an Apple Centre for destruction.



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Re: Wallstreet battery probs?

2005-04-21 Thread Stanton Mitrany
I thought I had fried my PMU (power management unit) and my Wallstreet II
battery a few weeks ago, but followed advice given on this list to run
Battery Reset from Apple. Didn't work. But I tried it twice more, and it
still didn't work. Tried it again two days later, when the battery still
showed no charge.

Then I noticed the other day that, WOW! The battery was now fully charged!

Moral of the story? Have patience. Apparently using Battery Reset, perhaps
repeatedly, and then giving things some time - in my case, more than a week
- and good results may ensue.



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 Subject: Re: Wallstreet battery probs?
 
 Laurent Daudelin said:
 
 It could also be the PRAM battery, but I think
 that the main batteries have to be in working order for the PRAM battery to
 recharge.
 
 I have charged batteries with a dead PRAM on the Wallstreet II and also
 had a working PRAM hold the data (dates and so on) without a working
 battery or even without one. So I think they are unrelated. But the
 charge board coudl have been damaged I suppose or there is no contact
 internally. Also there is the issue with shielding tape touching the
 outer ring on the power adapter connector.
 
 I'd try the batteries in another wallstreet and if dead there too I'd put
 them in a freezer to see if that coudl help (as have been discussed on
 the list. Have had no such luck myself). Also had a total reset revive
 things once in a WS I.
 
 If dead, remember to give the batteries to an Apple Centre for destruction.
 
 
 
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Re: Wallstreet battery probs?, try battery reset software?

2005-04-21 Thread Andrew in Ann Arbor
 Hi, gang.   - just picked up a Series II Wallstreet 266.

 It won't start up unless AC adapter's connected.  It came with two BTI
 batteries but neither one shows any charge lights when installed, and
 there's no indication that they're charging.
 Red X through battery icon
 in menu bar, Battery Monitor CS module options greyed out.
 I've pulled
 the batteries and disconnected AC, gonna let it sit a while then check
 if it's still holding time; couldn't be as simple as needing new PRAM
 battery, could it?  Anybody seen similar issues with your WS?
Have you tried battery reset?
It's an Apple utility for OS 8.1 and 9 (not sure about 10) that works on 
Wallstreets and Lombards (but apparently not on Pismos) that resets a 
battery's microprocessor.
Works for batteries that are sound but have the internal controller 
confused so they are reported to the computer as dead.

Here's a bit from the readme file:
About Battery Reset 2.0
What Is Battery Reset 2.0?
Battery Reset 2.0 addresses a situation that may occur with some 
PowerBook G3 Series and iBook computers in which the battery, while in 
the system, doesn't show up in the Control Strip, or a red X appears 
over the battery icon in the menu bar.

Battery Reset 2.0 includes two components. For PowerBook G3 Series 
computers, a file called Battery Updater is installed in the 
Extensions folder and an application called Battery Reset is installed 
on your hard disk. For iBook, only the file called Battery Updater is 
needed and is installed in the Extensions folder.

Installation Requirements
To install and use the Battery Reset 2.0 software, you need the following:
A PowerBook G3 Series (family number M4753 or M5343) or iBook (family 
number M2453) computer. The family number is located on the label on the 
bottom of the computer.

Mac OS 8.1 or later installed
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Wallstreet battery probs?

2005-04-20 Thread Gene Osburn
Hi, gang.  New to the list - just picked up a Series II Wallstreet 266.
It won't start up unless AC adapter's connected.  It came with two BTI 
batteries but neither one shows any charge lights when installed, and 
there's no indication that they're charging.  Red X through battery icon 
in menu bar, Battery Monitor CS module options greyed out.  I've pulled 
the batteries and disconnected AC, gonna let it sit a while then check 
if it's still holding time; couldn't be as simple as needing new PRAM 
battery, could it?  Anybody seen similar issues with your WS?

Pax,
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Re: Wallstreet battery probs?

2005-04-20 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 20/04/05 17:06, Gene Osburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, gang.  New to the list - just picked up a Series II Wallstreet 266.
 
 It won't start up unless AC adapter's connected.  It came with two BTI
 batteries but neither one shows any charge lights when installed, and
 there's no indication that they're charging.  Red X through battery icon
 in menu bar, Battery Monitor CS module options greyed out.  I've pulled
 the batteries and disconnected AC, gonna let it sit a while then check
 if it's still holding time; couldn't be as simple as needing new PRAM
 battery, could it?  Anybody seen similar issues with your WS?

It looks like both batteries are dead. It could also be the PMU (Power
Management Unit). Did you try to reset it? Check Apple's web site for
instructions on how to do it. It could also be the PRAM battery, but I think
that the main batteries have to be in working order for the PRAM battery to
recharge.

-Laurent.
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