Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
I'm curious--how long was the time gap between when you wrote them and when they responded? Later..Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
on 22/02/06 20:36, Howard Katz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm curious--how long was the time gap between when you wrote them and when they responded? I wrote them on Sunday and got the reply today. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometimes the majority only means that all the fools are on the same side. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
So I end up on Stonyfield's website (the yogurt people) and got to click to get their coupons and get the following error: We have noticed that you are using a Macintosh Computer. Unfortunately, our system is not cowmpatible with the Macintosh platform. Now, it seems to me that if you one is on the web and using HTML, Java, ... etc. this stuff is platform independant, so a developer would have to go out of their way to make it incompatible with a type of computer. Also this particular firm takes a hipster-dufus marketing approach and would seem to me would want to cultivate customers in the progressive Mac community. Oh yeah, this happend while surfing with my 400 MHz Pismo (obligatory G-book content). Thanks for listening/reading. Would be great if someone would generate a list of shame on the web for sites that have known compatibility issues with a given system (Mac, Linux, yes - even WIndows, if such a sie exists). -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
So I end up on Stonyfield's website (the yogurt people) and got to click to get their coupons and get the following error: We have noticed that you are using a Macintosh Computer. Unfortunately, our system is not cowmpatible with the Macintosh platform. Well, I tried that site, to see what would happen, and I got it to work in iCab 3 (Mac OS 9) by setting a User Defined agent string as Mozilla/Firefox 1.5/Windows XP (SP2), but it's still a fool's move to do that. It even flunked my Wintel box when I did an about:config in Firefox and set the identification to Mozilla/Firefox 1.5/Macintosh OSX (PPC) Idiot coders not wanting to take their punishment for writing buggy code... Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
on 19/02/06 06:49, Barry Muller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I end up on Stonyfield's website (the yogurt people) and got to click to get their coupons and get the following error: We have noticed that you are using a Macintosh Computer. Unfortunately, our system is not cowmpatible with the Macintosh platform. Now, it seems to me that if you one is on the web and using HTML, Java, ... etc. this stuff is platform independant, so a developer would have to go out of their way to make it incompatible with a type of computer. Also this particular firm takes a hipster-dufus marketing approach and would seem to me would want to cultivate customers in the progressive Mac community. Oh yeah, this happend while surfing with my 400 MHz Pismo (obligatory G-book content). Thanks for listening/reading. Would be great if someone would generate a list of shame on the web for sites that have known compatibility issues with a given system (Mac, Linux, yes - even WIndows, if such a sie exists). If you can enable the debug option in Safari, you could select the Windows Microsoft Explorer user agent, which basically tells the website which browser you use. I just tried it and had no problem getting in. Initially, before I changed the user agent, I got the same message but now it appears to be fine. It's really a pity that developers are so lazy that they code for only a specific platform. The Internet was supposed to be platform and OS agnostic but the dominance of Windows and the constant push from Microsoft with their specific extensions to the HTML language has skewed the direction of the Internet and many websites only assume that you're running Windows and using Internet Exploiter... You could email or contact them to let them know -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] iron: n. Hardware, especially older and larger hardware of mainframe class with big metal cabinets housing relatively low-density electronics (but the term is also used of modern supercomputers). Often in the phrase big iron. Oppose silicon. See also dinosaur. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
on 19/02/06 06:49, Barry Muller at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I end up on Stonyfield's website (the yogurt people) and got to click to get their coupons and get the following error: We have noticed that you are using a Macintosh Computer. Unfortunately, our system is not cowmpatible with the Macintosh platform. Oups! I just realized why they only support Windows and Exploiter: they use the shameless ActiveX plugin. Well, then you're stuck and should email them to let them know they're losing customers. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] hyperspace: /hi:'per-spays/ n. A memory location that is _far_ away from where the program counter should be pointing, especially a place that is inaccessible because it is not even mapped in by the virtual-memory system. Another core dump -- looks like the program jumped off to hyperspace somehow. (Compare jump off into never-never land.) This usage is from the SF notion of a spaceship jumping `into hyperspace', that is, taking a shortcut through higher-dimensional space -- in other words, bypassing this universe. The variant `east hyperspace' is recorded among CMU and Bliss hackers. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
--- Barry Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I end up on Stonyfield's website (the yogurt people) and got to click to get their coupons and get the following error: We have noticed that you are using a Macintosh Computer. Unfortunately, our system is not cowmpatible with the Macintosh platform. Now, it seems to me that if you one is on the web and using HTML, Java, ... etc. this stuff is platform independant, so a developer would have to go out of their way to make it incompatible with a type of computer. Also this particular firm takes a hipster-dufus marketing approach and would seem to me would want to cultivate customers in the progressive Mac community. Oh yeah, this happend while surfing with my 400 MHz Pismo (obligatory G-book content). Thanks for listening/reading. Would be great if someone would generate a list of shame on the web for sites that have known compatibility issues with a given system (Mac, Linux, yes - even WIndows, if such a sie exists). PS: Yes I sent them an email asking when they were going to fix the problem. Let you know if I get a snide comment that I need to get a real computer or other such tult. bem -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
What kind of idiot company would make their web site platform specific and eliminate potential customers? Tom -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
If you can enable the debug option in Safari, you could select the Windows Microsoft Explorer user agent, which basically tells the website which browser you use. I just tried it and had no problem getting in. Initially, before I changed the user agent, I got the same message but now it appears to be fine. It's really a pity that developers are so lazy that they code for only a specific platform. The Internet was supposed to be platform and OS agnostic but the dominance of Windows and the constant push from Microsoft with their specific extensions to the HTML language has skewed the direction of the Internet and many websites only assume that you're running Windows and using Internet Exploiter... You could email or contact them to let them know Well put, but somehow, I don't think it's going to happen. Exterminate all rational thought. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
On Sunday, February 19, 2006, at 10:41 AM, Barry Muller wrote: --- Barry Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I end up on Stonyfield's website (the yogurt people) and got to click to get their coupons and get the following error: We have noticed that you are using a Macintosh Computer. Unfortunately, our system is not cowmpatible with the Macintosh platform. And Stoneyfield has been singled out for being so technology forward for their use of blogs! I'm used to being turned away by MTV and VH1 streaming content because of using a Mac. In the case of streaming content, I think it's often part of the greedy copy protection wars that keep us in our ghetto. Thanks for emailing them (SF) feedback. Donald -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
We should all write them and tell them we're going to boycott their products until they unleash Mac users from Windows Dominion! :) Later..Howard -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
on 19/02/06 11:45, Howard Katz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We should all write them and tell them we're going to boycott their products until they unleash Mac users from Windows Dominion! :) That's a very good idea! I'm going to let them know right away! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Flyspeck 3 n.: Standard name for any font that is so tiny as to be unreadable (by analogy with names like `Helvetica 10' for 10-point Helvetica). Legal boilerplate is usually printed in Flyspeck 3. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
on 19/02/06 16:44, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 19/02/06 11:45, Howard Katz at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We should all write them and tell them we're going to boycott their products until they unleash Mac users from Windows Dominion! :) That's a very good idea! I'm going to let them know right away! -Laurent. This is the text I left on their website, as a complaint: My complaint doesn't have anything to do with your products, I love them! I want to complain because of the way your web site is locking out all non-Windows, non-Internet Exploiter users by designing a web site that relies on non-standard extensions to Internet standards, namely ActiveX. Frankly, with all the problems that we have heard over the last few years about how unsecure Exploiter and Windows for that matter are, I can't understand why you keep encouraging this platform and can't demonstrate more imagination to be able to deliver your web content without relying on extensions that were lame attempts by Microsoft to try dominating the web. Haven't you read many publications, even ones dedicated to Windows, recommending their readers to stop using Explorer? I'm really disappointed by this situation and until it is resolved, I will unfortunately stop buying any of your products. Thank you for reading this. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] code monkey n.: 1. A person only capable of grinding out code, but unable to perform the higher-primate tasks of software architecture, analysis, and design. Mildly insulting. Often applied to the most junior people on a programming team. 2. Anyone who writes code for a living; a programmer. 3. A self-deprecating way of denying responsibility for a management decision, or of complaining about having to live with such decisions. As in Don't ask me why we need to write a compiler in COBOL, I'm just a code monkey. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Website Compatibility (Stonyfield)
On Feb 19, 2006, at 7:51 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: Oups! I just realized why they only support Windows and Exploiter: they use the shameless ActiveX plugin. Well, then you're stuck and should email them to let them know they're losing customers. Laurent, I work with an otherwise excellent company that uses ActiveX for training web conferences. So far, I've had to use VPC in order to participate. Even with VPC 7.x on a 15 AlBook 1.25GHz with 1 GB RAM and OS 10.4.5, doing anything in Windows is painfully slow. Are there options that could be suggested to these programmers to make this process platform-independent? I'm thinking that there must be ways to do web conferences (where participants can see what the presenter is doing on her/his computer in real time) that don't depend on MS-only software... Thanks, Harry Corsover -- Feel better, look younger, live longer and make more money with Synergy Worldwide: Harry Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED]303-909-9218 www.harryc.biz -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
