Re: annoying desktop file

[Bob Gir.]

This is a bit long.  I've patched this info together, over a year or
two, from posts I've seen on the subject.  Maybe worth your saving for the
days when _you_ can't delete a file/folder/etc.

I've left in the info on quitting programs that won't quit as well as
trashing items that refuse to be trashed.

For the first time, last week, the only thing that would delete a file
that was interrupted mid-download was the "dragging the file to TexEdit"
solution.

Hope folks find this useful.

Bob

TRASH/KILL SOLUTIONS
First look for help at Randy Singer's page:
http://www.macattorney.com/panther.html

DELETE SOLUTIONS
--
1. Open Terminal
2. Type sudo rm -rf (or try just >sudo rm<)
3. Add a space after the "f", then drag the item you want deleted to the
terminal so that its path is automatically entered.
4. Press return, type in your password then hit return again.

Other method to try is trashing while holding down the Shift+Option keys and
Control Clicking on the trash can.

OR..create folder, put offending item in folder, move folder to trash, empty
trash holding down Shift + Option keys while emptying trash.
--
 Another method for getting rid of a PDF or text file that is "being used",
is to drag the file icon to TextEdit. In TextEdit choose Select All and then
hit the Delete key and Save. Close the file. Now you should be able to trash
it
-
Reboot in OS 9, drag items to be trashed out of your OS X trash, put them
into a new folder and drag that folder onto your OS 9 partition. Then, the
next time you re-boot in OS 9, you can drag that folder to the OS 9 Trash,
hold down the Option key and empty the trash, and they will be gone forever.
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Finally, try FileVaporizer (get from VersionTacker.  It seems to trash just
about everything. "What FileVaporizer does to files which you wish to erase
is to first write over them with random data and then delete them, thus
making them unrecoverable."
http://www.geneffects.com/filevaporizer/index.html


***KILL SOLUTIONS***
--
Try to quit from Process Viewer by
1. Laundh Process Viewer (Utilities folder)
2. Locate App. you can't quit in listing to left
3. Click to highlight
4. Hit Command+option+Q
5. In resulting dialog choose Quit
6. If that doesn't do it, repeat process but
this time, choose Force Quit.
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1. Launch terminal and type "top" then Return key
2. Note the PID number of the App that won't quit.
3. Open a new Terminal window (Command + N)
4. Type kill  if no luck try
5. kill -9 
--
If you hold both the option key and the control key while clicking an
application's icon in the Dock, the "force quit" command will be available
no matter what the program's status. 


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Re: annoying desktop file

[Timothy Luoma]

On Jul 17, 2004, at 12:41 AM, Michael Levin wrote:
On 7/16/04 10:00 PM, "Timothy Luoma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ah, the old undeletable file test.
What happens when you goto Terminal and type
mv  -f  ./FILENAME  ~/.Trash
Ding. Ding. We have a winner. Thanks a lot!
But can you delete it out of the trash once it is there??
If not regular delete, try secure delete.
If not, try moving it to /tmp which is (I think) automatically cleaned 
out during the boot process, when no other process can "claim" the file 
is in use.

TjL
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Re: annoying desktop file

[Michael Levin]

On 7/16/04 10:00 PM, "Timothy Luoma" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ah, the old undeletable file test.
> 
> What happens when you goto Terminal and type
> 
> mv  -f  ./FILENAME  ~/.Trash
Ding. Ding. We have a winner. Thanks a lot!

Breathing easier,
Michael


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Re: annoying desktop file

[Alejandro]

Sometimes is more simple than you can think.
Try this:
- Make a new folder or duplicate other file.
- Rename it as the damaged one.
- Place it on the same location.
- The System will ask you about replacing that item.
- Once replaced, trash the new one.

Hope that helps.



--- Timothy Luoma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah, the old undeletable file test.
> 
> What happens when you goto Terminal and type
> 
> cd Desktop
> 
> rm -f ./FILENAME
> 
> OR
> 
> mv  -f  ./FILENAME  ~/.Trash
> 
> or
> 
> mv -f ./FILENAME /tmp/
> 
> what errors are given?
> 
> 
> 
> .. Original Message ...
> On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:50:33 -0500 "Michael Levin"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >I have a file with 8k on my desktop and I cannot
> get rid of it. Every time 
> I
> >try to move it to the trash or my hard drive, I get
> a message that the file
> >is in use and cannot be trashed.
> >
> >I tried booting in safe mode, Classic mode and from
> a start up DVD. No 
> dice.
> >
> >How do I get rid of it? What is really baffling? I
> can open the file, I can
> >save changes to it, I can rename it. I cannot trash
> it. Ugh!
> >
> >Any suggestions will be tried.
> >
> >Michael
> >
> >
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Re: annoying desktop file

[Clark Martin]

At 8:50 PM -0500 7/16/04, Michael Levin wrote:
I have a file with 8k on my desktop and I cannot get rid of it. Every time I
try to move it to the trash or my hard drive, I get a message that the file
is in use and cannot be trashed.
I tried booting in safe mode, Classic mode and from a start up DVD. No dice.
How do I get rid of it? What is really baffling? I can open the file, I can
save changes to it, I can rename it. I cannot trash it. Ugh!
Any suggestions will be tried.
Michael
What is the name of the file?
Try renaming it, restarting then trashing it.
BTW, Classic is OS 9 running as a process in OS X.  I believe you 
meant booting in OS 9.
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Re: annoying desktop file

[Timothy Luoma]

Ah, the old undeletable file test.

What happens when you goto Terminal and type

cd Desktop

rm -f ./FILENAME

OR

mv  -f  ./FILENAME  ~/.Trash

or

mv -f ./FILENAME /tmp/

what errors are given?



.. Original Message ...
On Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:50:33 -0500 "Michael Levin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>I have a file with 8k on my desktop and I cannot get rid of it. Every time 
I
>try to move it to the trash or my hard drive, I get a message that the file
>is in use and cannot be trashed.
>
>I tried booting in safe mode, Classic mode and from a start up DVD. No 
dice.
>
>How do I get rid of it? What is really baffling? I can open the file, I can
>save changes to it, I can rename it. I cannot trash it. Ugh!
>
>Any suggestions will be tried.
>
>Michael
>
>
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annoying desktop file

[Michael Levin]

I have a file with 8k on my desktop and I cannot get rid of it. Every time I
try to move it to the trash or my hard drive, I get a message that the file
is in use and cannot be trashed.

I tried booting in safe mode, Classic mode and from a start up DVD. No dice.

How do I get rid of it? What is really baffling? I can open the file, I can
save changes to it, I can rename it. I cannot trash it. Ugh!

Any suggestions will be tried.

Michael


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