Re: guidance sought on keeping home synched between Powerbook and Desktop Mac

2006-01-17 Thread John Siple
I've been wrestling with this for a few months now and found that some things 
work and some don't. 

I don't think you can keep your entire home directory identical on the two 
machines using iSync.

ISync in 10.4 will do a good job of keeping your iCal data in step, and works 
well with the address book. But there are some oddities when syncing mail, 
particularly with multiple accounts that get frequently manipulated. Certain 
mail messages seem only to appear on one machine, and copies of outgoing 
messages sometimes only remain on the machine they were sent on. Because I'm 
using two POP accounts and one DotMac account I get some behaviors I haven't 
been able to figure out. There are many combinations with each account on both 
machines and on the DotMac account up on the server.

And one other small problem is that I would really like to keep some of my 
accounting files synchronized between desktop and laptop but haven't found a 
way to do that gracefully. I keep the files on a USB flash drive sometimes, but 
that's a fragile system with a chance of lost data. I don't entirely trust 
flash drives, at least not for data I can't replace.

Throw in a Palm device and things get even more complicated. Palms synchronize 
using a special iSync conduit that writes calendar events to iCal and addresses 
to Address on the Mac, but puts the palm notes in the Palm desktop application, 
which is necessary for synching even when you're using iCal for your calendar. 
Palm suggests users only synchronize with one Mac. I can't imagine what can 
happen when a Palm files gets changed, the Palm gets synchronized to Mac A, Mac 
A gets synchronized to DotMac on the Mac server. Mac B then gets synchronized 
via DotMac with the Mac server and the Palm device gets hooked up to Mac B. Oh, 
and I think only later versions of Tiger will do the Palm dance. I don't think 
Panther's iSync can do Palms.

The head spins with the possibilities.

My final solution is to have my Palm only talk to the laptop, and to do my 
e-mail and accounting only on the laptop. Then I sync the laptop with DotMac. 
My desktop Mac just reads the files on DotMac and I avoid making changes there. 
It's not an elegant system.

If a list member out there has a cleaner application to do this sort of thing I 
hope the solution gets posted.

J

 
On Monday, January 16, 2006, at 03:27PM, Alan Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Maybe you should give it a try. If you go to apples web site you can  
get a 2 month free trial.

I did, synced a few times, but haven't been back in a few weeks. It  
seemed to work well for me.

Not the fastest, but can be done at remote locations, besides just at  
home.
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Re: guidance sought on keeping home synched between Powerbook and Desktop Mac

2006-01-17 Thread sandra ragan

Have you tried You Syncronize? http://www.yousoftware.com/
Mostly I use iSync for the calendar in the iPod!

Sandra Ragan
www.plumdigital.com
On Jan 17, 2006, at 12:07 AM, John Siple wrote:

I've been wrestling with this for a few months now and found that some 
things work and some don't.


I don't think you can keep your entire home directory identical on the 
two machines using iSync.


ISync in 10.4 will do a good job of keeping your iCal data in step, 
and works well with the address book. But there are some oddities when 
syncing mail, particularly with multiple accounts that get frequently 
manipulated. Certain mail messages seem only to appear on one machine, 
and copies of outgoing messages sometimes only remain on the machine 
they were sent on. Because I'm using two POP accounts and one DotMac 
account I get some behaviors I haven't been able to figure out. There 
are many combinations with each account on both machines and on the 
DotMac account up on the server.


And one other small problem is that I would really like to keep some 
of my accounting files synchronized between desktop and laptop but 
haven't found a way to do that gracefully. I keep the files on a USB 
flash drive sometimes, but that's a fragile system with a chance of 
lost data. I don't entirely trust flash drives, at least not for data 
I can't replace.


Throw in a Palm device and things get even more complicated. Palms 
synchronize using a special iSync conduit that writes calendar events 
to iCal and addresses to Address on the Mac, but puts the palm notes 
in the Palm desktop application, which is necessary for synching even 
when you're using iCal for your calendar. Palm suggests users only 
synchronize with one Mac. I can't imagine what can happen when a Palm 
files gets changed, the Palm gets synchronized to Mac A, Mac A gets 
synchronized to DotMac on the Mac server. Mac B then gets synchronized 
via DotMac with the Mac server and the Palm device gets hooked up to 
Mac B. Oh, and I think only later versions of Tiger will do the Palm 
dance. I don't think Panther's iSync can do Palms.


The head spins with the possibilities.

My final solution is to have my Palm only talk to the laptop, and to 
do my e-mail and accounting only on the laptop. Then I sync the laptop 
with DotMac. My desktop Mac just reads the files on DotMac and I avoid 
making changes there. It's not an elegant system.


If a list member out there has a cleaner application to do this sort 
of thing I hope the solution gets posted.


J


On Monday, January 16, 2006, at 03:27PM, Alan Miller 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Maybe you should give it a try. If you go to apples web site you can
get a 2 month free trial.

I did, synced a few times, but haven't been back in a few weeks. It
seemed to work well for me.

Not the fastest, but can be done at remote locations, besides just at
home.
--
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Re: guidance sought on keeping home synched between Powerbook and Desktop Mac

2006-01-17 Thread John Siple
Is it new, or maybe part of You Control? I went to the YOU site but  
found only the YOU control series for fonts, desktops and tunes.


J
On Jan 17, 2006, at 8:51 AM, sandra ragan wrote:

Have you tried You Syncronize? http://www.yousoftware.com/
Mostly I use iSync for the calendar in the iPod!

Sandra Ragan
www.plumdigital.com
On Jan 17, 2006, at 12:07 AM, John Siple wrote:

I've been wrestling with this for a few months now and found that  
some things work and some don't.


I don't think you can keep your entire home directory identical on  
the two machines using iSync.


ISync in 10.4 will do a good job of keeping your iCal data in step,  
and works well with the 


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Re: guidance sought on keeping home synched between Powerbook and Desktop Mac

2006-01-17 Thread Don

I looked, too. Per their site, they no longer distribute You Sync.

Don

John Siple wrote:

Is it new, or maybe part of You Control? I went to the YOU site but  
found only the YOU control series for fonts, desktops and tunes.


J
On Jan 17, 2006, at 8:51 AM, sandra ragan wrote:

Have you tried You Syncronize? http://www.yousoftware.com/
Mostly I use iSync for the calendar in the iPod!

Sandra Ragan
www.plumdigital.com
On Jan 17, 2006, at 12:07 AM, John Siple wrote:

I've been wrestling with this for a few months now and found that  
some things work and some don't.


I don't think you can keep your entire home directory identical on  
the two machines using iSync.


ISync in 10.4 will do a good job of keeping your iCal data in step,  
and works well with the 






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Re: guidance sought on keeping home synched between Powerbook and Desktop Mac

2006-01-17 Thread sandra ragan
That's odd... it isn't new - I downloaded a demo back in October and 
bought it in December -  but it's only showing up on the Support 
pages... http://www.yousoftware.com/support/syncfaq.php


Sandra Ragan
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On Jan 17, 2006, at 11:02 AM, John Siple wrote:

Is it new, or maybe part of You Control? I went to the YOU site but 
found only the YOU control series for fonts, desktops and tunes.


J
On Jan 17, 2006, at 8:51 AM, sandra ragan wrote:

Have you tried You Syncronize? http://www.yousoftware.com/
Mostly I use iSync for the calendar in the iPod!

Sandra Ragan
www.plumdigital.com
On Jan 17, 2006, at 12:07 AM, John Siple wrote:

I've been wrestling with this for a few months now and found that 
some things work and some don't.


I don't think you can keep your entire home directory identical on 
the two machines using iSync.


ISync in 10.4 will do a good job of keeping your iCal data in step, 
and works well with the 


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Re: guidance sought on keeping home synched between Powerbook and Desktop Mac

2006-01-17 Thread sandra ragan
The demo is one of those keep hitting the not now button types if you 
want to contact me off list I can send you a copy to play with.


Sandra Ragan
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On Jan 17, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Don wrote:


I looked, too. Per their site, they no longer distribute You Sync.

Don

John Siple wrote:

Is it new, or maybe part of You Control? I went to the YOU site but  
found only the YOU control series for fonts, desktops and tunes.


J
On Jan 17, 2006, at 8:51 AM, sandra ragan wrote:

Have you tried You Syncronize? http://www.yousoftware.com/
Mostly I use iSync for the calendar in the iPod!

Sandra Ragan
www.plumdigital.com
On Jan 17, 2006, at 12:07 AM, John Siple wrote:

I've been wrestling with this for a few months now and found that  
some things work and some don't.


I don't think you can keep your entire home directory identical on  
the two machines using iSync.


ISync in 10.4 will do a good job of keeping your iCal data in step,  
and works well with the 






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guidance sought on keeping home synched between Powerbook and Desktop Mac

2006-01-16 Thread Brian Steere

Hi - my first posting here having just got an ali Powerbook 1.67 (the older
than last model with 1280 resolution screen).
I want to be able to move frequently between my Desktop and Powerbook and
find the best way to keep in synch.

I can just synch via superduper which is a cloner that can incrementally
clone one to the other and back again. Are there any particular risks or
penalties from using a clone back and forth?

I also have Chronosynch which can synch any folders and may be a better way
to go but not sure what to exclude.

I am using Entourage and have been manually copying the identity over thus
far as well as Address Book.

One issue is that their are subjective items to each Mac that DON'T want to
synch but I am not sure what and where they are.

Most of my data is on another partition on each Mac which makes that easy to
keep synched.

Any advice guidance or pointers would be gratefully appreciated.
(I am not using .Mac)


all the best
Brian



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Re: guidance sought on keeping home synched between Powerbook and Desktop Mac

2006-01-16 Thread Alan Miller
Maybe you should give it a try. If you go to apples web site you can  
get a 2 month free trial.


I did, synced a few times, but haven't been back in a few weeks. It  
seemed to work well for me.


Not the fastest, but can be done at remote locations, besides just at  
home.

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On Jan 16, 2006, at 6:20 PM, Brian Steere wrote:


(I am not using .Mac)



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