Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Dan A. Currie  wrote:
>
>Greetings to ALL here who have been there when needed, may you
> have a *VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS* and a most *PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR!!
>
> Enjoy the following and please pass it along to those you care about.
>
> http://heavens-gates.com/50s/whitechristmas/

Thanks I did pass it on.
All the best,

Adrian

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Stephen Conrad]

On 12/23/08, Paxton  wrote:
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> I have been using Goodwill printers at about $10 each, specializing in
> HP Photosmart 7350s and 7550s. I use these because I standardized on
> the 56, 57 and 58 ink carts. They seem to work well however the door
> to change the ink carts is a little flaky so I check those out before
> I buy one.

I have gotten quite a number of printers that the local Salvation Army
would toss out. They'd stick them on the shelves with a piece of tape
on them marked "Works" and when they didn't sell they'd simply toss
them.
I might have to post the list of tem one day.

-- 
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Henrietta, MO 64036

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to go forth and claim our place in outer space."
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Re: how to force a G3 to format its HD with 8.0 ( Has OSX)

[Charles Lenington]

Robert Gruber wrote:
> I've forgotten this computer's password; want to travel tomorrow with 
> it able to get on the web.
> (the black, shapely model of G3)
>
The only black G3 I know of is a laptop and it belongs on the G book list

http://groups.google.com/group/g-books?hl=en

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Re: Quicken no more? Need something else,... what?

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Dec 24, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

>
> On Dec 24, 2008, at 9:54 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
>
>> I looked into that already, it is strictly an online free thing
>> that they're doing
>
> It's a beta of a new product they will sell.
>
>> the wife isn't interested in the online banking.
>
> It's a stand-alone application, not an online banking interface.
>
> If you liked Quicken, why not continue with Quicken? You can run the
> Windows version of Quicken on any Intel Mac with Windows installed; or
> you can use Wine or CrossOver 7 to run PC Quicken WITHOUT installing
> Windows.
>
>

Ok. wow, some new stuff to look into :-) Thanks, Jeff

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Re: Quicken no more? Need something else,... what?

[Kris Tilford]

On Dec 24, 2008, at 9:54 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

> I looked into that already, it is strictly an online free thing
> that they're doing

It's a beta of a new product they will sell.

> the wife isn't interested in the online banking.

It's a stand-alone application, not an online banking interface.

If you liked Quicken, why not continue with Quicken? You can run the  
Windows version of Quicken on any Intel Mac with Windows installed; or  
you can use Wine or CrossOver 7 to run PC Quicken WITHOUT installing  
Windows.


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MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!!

[Dan A. Currie]

Greetings to ALL here who have been there when needed, may you 
have a *VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS* and a most *PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR!!

Enjoy the following and please pass it along to those you care about.

http://heavens-gates.com/50s/whitechristmas/
*

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Re: Quicken no more? Need something else,... what?

[Jeffrey Engle]

On Dec 24, 2008, at 7:48 PM, Kris Tilford wrote:

>
> On Dec 24, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:
>
>> I've been using Quicken 2007 for quite some time and now come to find
>> out that they're not going to make an update to it.
>
> The update for "Quicken 2007" is called "Quicken Financial Life for
> Mac":
>
> 
>
> Here's a sign-up to get the Beta:
>
> >


Kris, I looked into that already, it is strictly an online free thing  
that they're doing and the wife isn't interested in the online  
banking. Jeff

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Re: Quicken no more? Need something else,... what?

[Kris Tilford]

On Dec 24, 2008, at 9:38 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

> I've been using Quicken 2007 for quite some time and now come to find
> out that they're not going to make an update to it.

The update for "Quicken 2007" is called "Quicken Financial Life for  
Mac":



Here's a sign-up to get the Beta:



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Quicken no more? Need something else,... what?

[Jeffrey Engle]

I've been using Quicken 2007 for quite some time and now come to find  
out that they're not going to make an update to it. So we're looking  
for something like it that works really well? what do you use? how do  
you like it? Jeff



Jeff Engle
Kamiah, Idaho 83536

208-935-0992
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Re: Merry Christmas

[Kyle Hansen]

On 12/24/08 6:36 PM, "Amanda Ward"  Broadcast into
the ether:

> 
> Hi All,
> 
> I've gotten a lot of good advice from the crowd on this list and just
> want to say thanks and wish everyone Happy Holidays.
> Oh, and for you pet owners... Fleas Navidad!
> 
> Running away quickly
> 
> Amanda

I would expect this behavior from Bruce, or maybe even Clark...but Ms.
Amanda Ward?  You are so banned for posting an OT subject.

Just kidding.  Happy holidays.

Kyle Hansen
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LEM list nanny



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Re: 2 ATI 9200 video cards in G4 Sawtooth?

[Kris Tilford]

On Dec 24, 2008, at 8:40 PM, jonas ulrich wrote:

> What exactly is quartz extreme?



Quartz Extreme
Mac OS X v10.2 introduced Quartz Extreme: graphics processor (GPU)  
acceleration for the Quartz Compositor. With Quartz Extreme, no  
central processor (CPU) cycles are utilized for scene composition.  
Quartz Compositor runs using the graphics processor (GPU) by  
encapsulating each rendered backing store in an OpenGL texture map or  
surface. The GPU then composes the surfaces and maps to provide the  
final image, which is delivered to its frame buffer.
Quartz Extreme only uses OpenGL commands, and requires a graphics card  
connected to an AGP 2X or faster bus (including AGP 4X, 8X, and PCI  
Express), supporting textures and maps of arbitrary size, since many  
of the renderers have no size limitation (Quartz 2D for example).[4]  
It is automatically enabled on Mac systems with one of the following  
types ofgraphics cards:[5]
• AMD (ATI) Radeon, AGP-based, 16MB VRAM minimum, or better
• NVIDIA GeForce2 MX, 16MB VRAM minimum, or better
Quartz Extreme is not the same as Quartz 2D Extreme, which is optional  
GPU acceleration for the Quartz 2D renderer. Further, any GPU that is  
capable of rendering Core Imageinstructions is also capable of Quartz  
Extreme.


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how to force a G3 to format its HD with 8.0 ( Has OSX)

[Robert Gruber]

I've forgotten this computer's password; want to travel tomorrow with it
able to get on the web.
(the black, shapely model of G3)

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Re: 2 ATI 9200 video cards in G4 Sawtooth?

[jonas ulrich]

What exactly is quarts extreme?

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 6:37 PM, Kris Tilford  wrote:

>
> On Dec 24, 2008, at 8:33 PM, jonas ulrich wrote:
>
> > As long as there is enough free ports. I ran 2 pci video cards a 1
> > agp video card in my G4 gigabyte ethernet powermac.
>
> Using a PCI video card in an AGP Mac will kill off Quartz Extreme
> acceleration for both cards unless you enable it with PCI Extreme 3.1.
> It's normally better to get one good AGP card that has enough
> horsepower and VRAM for two monitors.
>
>
> >
>

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Re: 2 ATI 9200 video cards in G4 Sawtooth?

[Kris Tilford]

On Dec 24, 2008, at 8:33 PM, jonas ulrich wrote:

> As long as there is enough free ports. I ran 2 pci video cards a 1  
> agp video card in my G4 gigabyte ethernet powermac.

Using a PCI video card in an AGP Mac will kill off Quartz Extreme  
acceleration for both cards unless you enable it with PCI Extreme 3.1.  
It's normally better to get one good AGP card that has enough  
horsepower and VRAM for two monitors.


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Merry Christmas

[Amanda Ward]

Hi All,

I've gotten a lot of good advice from the crowd on this list and just  
want to say thanks and wish everyone Happy Holidays.
Oh, and for you pet owners... Fleas Navidad!

Running away quickly

Amanda

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Re: 2 ATI 9200 video cards in G4 Sawtooth?

[jonas ulrich]

As long as there is enough free ports. I ran 2 pci video cards a 1 agp video
card in my G4 gigabyte ethernet powermac.-Jonas

On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 2:56 PM, Mike Baker  wrote:

>
> Is it possible to run 2 ATI 9200 video cards in a G$ Sawtooth?
>
>
>
>
> >
>

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Re: Titanium 400Mhz Powerbook won't start

[jonas ulrich]

This may be totally unrelated, but my old 12in G4 Powerbook came with a 45w
power adapter, and my new 15in came with a 65w power adapter. None of those
sites with the melted powerbooks say which tibooks those are. One of the
known problems with these machines is the screen hinges, as you know.
Another problem is the trackpad cable. It is pinched in the frame and
sometimes short out. There are sites that show how to fix this problem
though. The tibook that I had would get so hot that it would burn any bare
skin. Oh hey i just found a site that sells 65w power adapters for your
exact laptop.
http://www.bitssite.com/apple-powerbook-g4-400mhz-15-2-inch-mercury-tibook-titanium-m7710ll-a/3072/us-110v-power-adapter/accessory.html
-Jonas

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Charles Lenington wrote:

>
> nestamicky wrote:
> >
> > jonas ulrich wrote:
> >> I had a tibook 2002 for about a week before I returned it with a bad
> >> mother board. When you say it doesn't give a beep are you talking
> >> about the apple chime? Does it even get power? These laptops were
> >> very inconsistent. Some of them will overheat and melt as shown in
> >> the five links. imgres
> >> <
> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://farm1.static.flickr.com/87/217048670_670bae408e.jpg%3Fv%3D0&imgrefurl=http://flickr.com/photos/howell/217048670/&usg=__SOu8Asea4bcdfe7P3NBRdbiAcag=&h=375&w=500&sz=134&hl=en&start=16&sig2=mQ0FsQw_yRDeqY1rdHqZkw&tbnid=p42pImuO14-zvM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=130&ei=mIVQSbW4GJ3aNIjm-M8P&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmelted%2Bpowerbook%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG>
> imgres
> >> <
> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.appledefects.com/images/keyboard_small-thumb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.appledefects.com/%3Fcat%3D37&usg=__6SUjIY3b1lTX2jDxi2VrI3LcejM=&h=188&w=398&sz=120&hl=en&start=11&sig2=eYKN5Mkggju5-52U0YJ4IQ&tbnid=Ncf-gdIjJ_A_lM:&tbnh=59&tbnw=124&ei=mIVQSbW4GJ3aNIjm-M8P&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmelted%2Bpowerbook%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG>
> imgres
> >> <
> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/01/melted1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/laptops/the-melted-g4-powerbook-part-3-231983.php&usg=__zPSPG1XLZ6ON1-blHyiUNHXR6PY=&h=390&w=520&sz=89&hl=en&start=4&sig2=SEVcG9Cuo8InxdKrZ-ffzg&tbnid=I61xANKsUAXRBM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=131&ei=mIVQSbW4GJ3aNIjm-M8P&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmelted%2Bpowerbook%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG>
> imgres
> >> <
> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/01/melted2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/laptops/the-melted-g4-powerbook-part-3-231983.php&usg=__NL2ks-ks-8GHAxnERVQ7bT60hqM=&h=390&w=520&sz=101&hl=en&start=3&sig2=T7RWav64o8M_zONoP_BjIw&tbnid=5thg59QI75i8rM:&tbnh=98&tbnw=131&ei=mIVQSbW4GJ3aNIjm-M8P&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmelted%2Bpowerbook%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG>
>  imgres
> >> <
> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2007/01/DCP_0005.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.appledefects.com/%3Fcat%3D23&usg=__apL47MtpKlgNgu7gfXv-Obr8hVA=&h=1440&w=2160&sz=866&hl=en&start=1&sig2=FQG-sxSthoPrAPg1UBIlYg&tbnid=ODshluKIin9wWM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=150&ei=mIVQSbW4GJ3aNIjm-M8P&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmelted%2Bpowerbook%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG>
> .
> >> Some just don't work well. But there are some, the later models, that
> >> work great.
> You might have better luck over on the powerbook
>  G4 list.
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/g4books?hl=en
>
> >
>

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Re: memory stick format error

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 24, 2008, at 3:48 PM, amoriellja...@att.net wrote:

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>
> Has anyone successfully fixed memory stick format errors in OS X.  I  
> see there's some Sony software on their support site for Windows  
> users who are having the same problem?  Thanks.
>


I've always used the camera to format mine...I've heard of people  
having problems with them being formatted by computer.

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Re: 2 ATI Radeon 9200 Pro 128 MB Mac Edition PCI cards?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 24, 2008, at 4:20 PM, Mike Baker wrote:

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> To be more specific, two ATI Radeon 9200 Pro 128 MB Mac Edition PCI  
> cards.



In theory, you can run as many video cards as you have slots.

A long time ago I saw an article that listed the total pixel limits in  
OS X, limiting you, effectively, to three monitors, but that was a  
long time ago.

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Re: 2 ATI Radeon 9200 Pro 128 MB Mac Edition PCI cards?

[Mike Baker]

To be more specific, two ATI Radeon 9200 Pro 128 MB Mac Edition PCI cards.


--- On Wed, 12/24/08, Mike Baker  wrote:

> From: Mike Baker 
> Subject: 2 ATI 9200 video cards in G4 Sawtooth?
> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 5:56 PM
> Is it possible to run 2 ATI 9200 video cards in a G$
> Sawtooth?
> 
> 
>   
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2 ATI 9200 video cards in G4 Sawtooth?

[Mike Baker]

Is it possible to run 2 ATI 9200 video cards in a G$ Sawtooth?


  

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memory stick format error

[amorielljason]

 

Has anyone successfully fixed memory stick format errors in OS X.  I see there's some Sony software on their support site for Windows users who are having the same problem?  Thanks.Jason

Re: what about 2 Airport Extreme base stations?

[MIKO ..]

Yes, using WDS, supposedly- but I have followed the exact correct  
procedure to set up WDS with one machine joining the main station  
network and extending the network- but there has always been a problem  
with what happens when a Mac connects to the machine close to the  
remote base station (non-main station):  I constantly see problems  
with successful IP address assignments coming back from the main base  
station.

On Dec 24, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

> Curious question, can I use an Airport Extreme to extend a network
> that has one Airport Extreme already in use?


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what about 2 Airport Extreme base stations?

[Jeffrey Engle]

Curious question, can I use an Airport Extreme to extend a network  
that has one Airport Extreme already in use?

Here's my situation... I have an Airport Extreme with an Airport  
Express in the living room to plug the stereo into. I need to extend  
my home network as well as plug the USB printer into "another  
device" ... and since the Airport express is so close in price to an  
Airport Extreme (both are the new 802.11n units) that If I could use  
the airport extreme for that purpose, I'd rather have that instead.  
What say you?

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Re: Strange Video card behavior

[insightinmind]

On Dec 24, 2008, at 11:46 AM, Len Gerstel wrote:

>
> This is a strange one. After doing all the below, I am guessing it is
> pram battery related. I had a power failure at work and the date went
> back in time so I have a pram battery on order from OWC that should
> be here soon.


Have you tested your RAM lately?

Blown the dust out of the RAM and PCI slots?

Maybe removed the battery for a 10-20 minute period, replace and  
startup anew.

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Strange Video card behavior

[Len Gerstel]

This is a strange one. After doing all the below, I am guessing it is  
pram battery related. I had a power failure at work and the date went  
back in time so I have a pram battery on order from OWC that should  
be here soon.

I have a DA with a modded (pins 3 and 11 taped) genuine Mac, not a  
flashed pc, Radeon 9600 Pro driving my monitor. I also had a pci Rage  
128 installed as an emergency back up in case of problems with the  
modded card.

I pulled the Rage to put into a Sawtooth that I was setting up. On  
the next start up of my DA, I got no video from the AGP Radeon, but a  
completely normal start up and then shut down by keyboard commands.  
Tried resetting pram and even pressing the cuda, but still no video  
out on the AGP Radeon. I have not reset the openfirmware.

Put the Rage back in and started up off that with regular video out.  
Immediately shut down, hooked the monitor up to the Radeon leaving  
the Rage installed and got normal video out on the Radeon.

Shut down, pulled the Rage and restarted with no problems and video  
out on the Radeon.

This has happened three days in a row. Today, same thing. Normal  
startup, just no video out on the Radeon. As a test, I installed the  
Rage card, but left the monitor hooked up to the AGP Radeon. With the  
pci Rage installed, but nothing hooked up to it, I got a normal  
startup with video out on the Radeon.

Thanks,
Len

Scanning the System.log in console, I don't see any errors related to  
video, but I am including the possible error messages that I can make  
out from the log:

 From first start up with no Rage installed and no video out on the  
Radeon:

Dec 24 09:00:16 localhost launchd: Server 431f in bootstrap 1103 uid  
0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[45]: exited abnormally: Hangup
Dec 24 09:00:22 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 launchd: Server 0 in  
bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[63]: exited abnormally: Hangup
Dec 24 09:03:38 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 loginwindow[71]:  
sendQuitEventToApp (TWAINBridge): AESendMessage returned error -609
Dec 24 09:03:38 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 loginwindow[71]:  
sendQuitEventToApp (MicrosoftMouseHelper): AESendMessage returned  
error -609


 From the second startup with the Rage installed, but using the  
Radeon for video out:

Dec 24 09:05:03 localhost kernel[0]: ROM ndrv for ATY,Rage128o is too  
old (0xb3c2e331)
Dec 24 09:05:03 localhost launchd: Server 4317 in bootstrap 1103 uid  
0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[45]: exited abnormally: Hangup
Dec 24 09:05:09 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: ATY,Simone_A:  
vram [a000:0400]
Dec 24 09:05:09 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: ATY,Simone_B:  
vram [a000:0400]
Dec 24 09:05:09 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: ATY,Rage128o:  
Not usable
Dec 24 09:05:09 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 launchd: Server 4373 in  
bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[62]: exited abnormally: Hangup
Dec 24 09:05:09 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 launchd: Server 437b in  
bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[70]: exited abnormally: Hangup
Dec 24 09:05:37 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: USBF:  77.289   
AppleUSBOHCI[0x1bea000]::DoIOTransfer - error 0xe2ed queueing  
request
Dec 24 09:06:58 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: smb_maperr32: no  
direct map for 32 bit server error (0xc033)
Dec 24 09:06:58 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: smb_maperr32: no  
direct map for 32 bit server error (0xc033)
Dec 24 09:06:58 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: smb_maperr32: no  
direct map for 32 bit server error (0xc033)
Dec 24 09:06:58 len-gerstels-power-mac-g4 kernel[0]: smb_maperr32: no  
direct map for 32 bit server error (0xc033)


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Re: Which printer do you like?

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On Dec 24, 9:58 am, Jeff Bequette  wrote:
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> side with caveats.  I currently run two printers, a HP Photosmart  
> 2610 5-in-1 (print/fax/scan/copy/photo and a Canon i860 which was  
> purchased first, to go along with a new digital camera in 04.  The HP  
> came home when the better half wanted some copying and fax  
> capability.  Little did we know what a journey we embarked on.  the  
> Canon is now hooked up to the airport and works flawlessly, as long  
> as it is fed.  The HP is now hooked up straight to main computer,  
> dual G5 1.8 (june '04, running 10.4.11).  What took almost 6 months  
> to discover was the inability of the 2610 to work its multiple  
> functions on a family computer set up for fast user switching.  That  
> is when it came off the Airport and was plugged in directly.  Then  
> last time I tried to scan/OCR some data in, hp wanted me to  
> deinstall, reload and reinstall the drivers-EACH & EVERY time someone  
> else used the computer.(on the 4 users who wasn't the main guy)  That  
> was about 6 months ago and I haven't seen lately if they have  
> upgraded the support/driver.  It boils down to failure of my  
> researching the product and the salesman's level of knowledge when I  
> described what I wanted to do.
>
> I realize both my printers are aged things now, but until I know  
> things will change for the better that is where I am stuck.  Enjoy  
> the quality of both and the ability to print to photo paper.
>
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My parents use a PSC 1315 at their house on windows. It is indeed a
pita. They've had constant trouble with it's drivers not loading for
everybody. I've had no trouble with it when I used it on my iBook, but
then I only had one user account.

IF ... and only IF you can get the drivers installed and you only have
yourself, the PCS works very well.


However the printers I've had myself I never had any problems. My
first printer was a Deskjet 550. then up to 613C. then to 850c.

I now have a Deskjet 990cxi and a Deskjet 5650. The only real problem
that I have is the 990 leaks. Otherwise the 990 works wonders from an
airport express.  The 5650 I keep connected directly to my main
computer. I have a doublesided printing module installed, and I keep a
photo ink cartridge so that I can print off scans from my flatbed
scanner.

Obviously there can be chances that you could get an equally bad HP as
with a Canon or Epson.  I have a Stylewriter 1200 that is still
chugging along.

Really depends on the quality of the materials used to make the
printer and how well they develop the driver. As with the previous
posters  Photosmart and my parents PSC, HP's all-in-one software for
these two models is nothing to write home about.

Curious question: How does Epsons or Canons AIO software and drivers
compare to HP's?


Bucky


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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Jeff Bequette]

As a johnny-come-lately to this discussion, I come down on the HP  
side with caveats.  I currently run two printers, a HP Photosmart  
2610 5-in-1 (print/fax/scan/copy/photo and a Canon i860 which was  
purchased first, to go along with a new digital camera in 04.  The HP  
came home when the better half wanted some copying and fax  
capability.  Little did we know what a journey we embarked on.  the  
Canon is now hooked up to the airport and works flawlessly, as long  
as it is fed.  The HP is now hooked up straight to main computer,  
dual G5 1.8 (june '04, running 10.4.11).  What took almost 6 months  
to discover was the inability of the 2610 to work its multiple  
functions on a family computer set up for fast user switching.  That  
is when it came off the Airport and was plugged in directly.  Then  
last time I tried to scan/OCR some data in, hp wanted me to  
deinstall, reload and reinstall the drivers-EACH & EVERY time someone  
else used the computer.(on the 4 users who wasn't the main guy)  That  
was about 6 months ago and I haven't seen lately if they have  
upgraded the support/driver.  It boils down to failure of my  
researching the product and the salesman's level of knowledge when I  
described what I wanted to do.

I realize both my printers are aged things now, but until I know  
things will change for the better that is where I am stuck.  Enjoy  
the quality of both and the ability to print to photo paper.

Jeff Bequette
jbeque...@tconl.com

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Re: Which printer do you like?

[Bruce Johnson]

On Dec 23, 2008, at 8:47 PM, Amanda Ward wrote:

> I have an HP Laserjet 4000, extracted from a client's leaky, rodent
> and bug infested storage building. Printed with streaks, smudges,
> lines and blank spots.


Good find!

Pretty much any HP laser printer with a model number > 2000 is a well  
made, reliable printer, any one with a number lower than that suxrox.


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