Re: OS9, OS X and Partitioning
You can install OS9 then 10.4 and 10.5 in that order on one partition to save space, and be able to access the other OSs', and their programs while using 10.5. then leave the partitions for backups. On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:21 PM, jonas ulrich jonasulrich3...@gmail.com wrote: The mdd's have large drive support, they are not affected by any hard drive limit. I am not sure though if os9 has a hd size limit. If it does you will just need to partition using os9 and make sure that os 9 will be able to see both partitions. Then you can install 10. Just make sure to install 9 FIRST and do NOT format the hd using 10 because 9 won't recognize it. -Jonas On 1/9/09, Dan A. Currie danc...@frontiernet.net wrote: Hello All, I will be giving my son my G4 MDD dual 1.25 and it will have a 160GB HDD. I want to install OS9.2 and OSX 10.4.11 or if possible OSX 10.5 on the HDD. I know there is a rule about partitioning the HDD so that both drives can be installed ... but I can not for the life of me remember what it was! Something about 9 being installed on a smaller partition @%^%$#$...@!! And there was another rule about the MDD's not recognizing all of a HDD above a certain ?? number. Help would be greatly appreciated, Dan Currie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS9, OS X and Partitioning
On Jan 10, 2009, at 4:29 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: You can install OS9 then 10.4 and 10.5 in that order on one partition to save space, and be able to access the other OSs', and their programs while using 10.5. then leave the partitions for backups. Kyle; My understanding is that this method would leave you with only OS9 OSX 10.5 available for use. [10.5 replacing 10.4]. Am I incorrect? [Vast sea of ignorance where 10.5 is concerned. 10.4.11 works fine for me.] Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Where do I learn.... becomes archiving files and images- the future
On Jan 9, 2009, at 10:08 PM, aussieshepsrock wrote: On Jan 9, 8:07 pm, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: On Jan 9, 2009, at 7:30 PM, aussieshepsrock wrote: Hi Chuck! Topic: Storing Original Prints As Best Option - A Discussion Upfront! Well Kept Prints Are By leaps and bounds this is UNEQUIVOCABLY The Best Option! Any and All Atempts To Explain Doing So Is Best Is To Be 'Preaching To The Choir'. My Photographic Skils Come Out Of Large Format Cameras And Sporting Darkroom Tans. Give me properly processed 4x5 negatives and fibre based prints or Cibachrome Color Prints and I'll be the Most Happy guy around! Which is why you are aware that 'photographic' (chemical/ paper/ negative) copies have the potential to NOT lose hidden data. [Talking about 'granularity' of the image, for BW, Color is a bit different, but still BOTH contain far more data than a 'granularity = 600 or 1200 dpi can record. I am still 'source material' limited here. Your arguments are exceptionally valid and I don't dispute them in any way. Being satisfied with the appearance of a 4x6 at 600 dpi, is fine, IF that 600 dpi is derived from 1200 dpi or 2400 dpi original data. Nice chunks of this collection have solidly visible film grain. Ouch!!! There goes that avenue of attack! I have almost NO negatives to confirm this, but I suspect 110 and Disc camera sources for some of these images. Even the ones sourced from 35mm were either shot on horrifically bad film stock, shot with astonishingly bad cameras, or printed quite poorly in a high volume situation - Likely combinations of all three at once! Blury highly visible film grain scanned at 1200 dpi is legitimately wasting at least half the pixels. :-) although, I do really like over scans of this type for doing heavy duty dust, speckle, and scratch removal activity in photoshop. You've been further into this than I was conscious of. you have the higher resolution data available, you can drop quality all you want when you are printing, with no problem. But there is a limit as to how much you can enlarge things depending on the dpi available to you AT THAT TIME. Once you cut the dpi information, that's the NEW limit. Can't magically get those pixels back. :-) Agreed! - I also face the loss of info from the horrific printing process these negatives experienced! Having established THAT data point! :-) I have to accept the photos in this box for what they mostly are. CHEAP Color Prints from the late Seventies to Early Nineties. By Definition that makes them NON-Archival. But you can transfer those pics to current 'photo quality' with attention to using archival grade materials when appropriate. I am trying to put together a print process to go alongside the digital storage arrangement. It might be the 2nd stage of the my project. That could work, more time to gather resources ($), methods, whatever. The later stuff will take a fair bit longer to self destruct, but self destruct they will. They have also lived a semi-rough life in the environs of my Grand Mothers home. Loved, but not well stored or temperature protected for the most part. The clock is ticking on these pictures. Fortunately, you shouldn't be having 'Next Week' deadline problems. :-) Agreed! I just wanted to differentiate these prints versus the much longer living black and white prints people might have in their heads. Color prints, especially early high volume stuff are an entirely different beast. Most of the Treasures in Grandma's Collection were BW and THEY ARE GONE. The ones that are physically gone, we can only commiserate over, the ones that are physically present, but lousy quality, can be looked at with the eye to eventually trying 'wild ideas' for restoration of detail' (Newer methods of processing, whatever.) I would like to have a Non Computer Based Solution to 'Saving' these images and distributing them. I actually have one, but the agreggate cost might be daunting. I can take the Digital Files I am making and print them at the local Professional Photo Lab we have in this town. It's actually a semi- major player nationally and draws clients globally. I used to work there 7 or 8 years ago. Great People. For anything beyond snapshots EVERYTHING I need printed goes to them. Period. They aren't overwhelmingly expensive, but their Quality is Many Orders Of Magnitude Better than using Walgreens or Walmart or Snapfish or Whatever. The only thing I would question Re: the commercial lab, is whether they are doing things via FILM, or using 'Digital' steps in their processing. People may never notice (to complain about) loss of 'foundational' data from the frames. Remember, as good as you say they are, you have already 'reduced' the grain/pixel information. The 'Reduction' of Information Argument you are presenting is Valid. The response I'm giving is to say that the Grain of The Paper
Re: OS9, OS X and Partitioning
On Jan 10, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Kyle Parish wrote: I believe that you would only have 10.5 and OS9 as start up disks, but 10.4 applications should work with 10.5 this way. You may call Simply Mac or the Mac store to find out for sure. This way you will be able to open applications from 10.4 and OS9 from 10.5. I would also do updates as you install each OS before installing the next OS. If you install 10.4; When you install 10.5 the additional 10.4 applications should still remain. Yes I could be wrong but I do'nt think so. That's different from what I got from your earlier post. The inference I was seeing, was that you could RUN 10.4, or 10.5, or 9,? (I gotta turn OFF the 'Nitpick' gene somehow) Chuck D. On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Charles Davis c...@gamewood.net wrote: On Jan 10, 2009, at 4:29 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: You can install OS9 then 10.4 and 10.5 in that order on one partition to save space, and be able to access the other OSs', and their programs while using 10.5. then leave the partitions for backups. Kyle; My understanding is that this method would leave you with only OS9 OSX 10.5 available for use. [10.5 replacing 10.4]. Am I incorrect? [Vast sea of ignorance where 10.5 is concerned. 10.4.11 works fine for me.] Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS9, OS X and Partitioning
On Jan 10, 12:55 pm, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Jan 10, 2009, at 2:29 AM, Kyle Parish wrote: You can install OS9 then 10.4 and 10.5 in that order on one partition to save space, and be able to access the other OSs', and their programs while using 10.5. then leave the partitions for backups. You would need to have three separate partitions for this, (or two, one for 10.4/OS 9, and one for 10.5 which does not support OS9 or Classic at all.) What I would do is make two partitions, a small one for OS 9 and the rest for 10.5. When making the partitions and formatting them make sure you check the box for install OS 9 drivers, at least on the OS 9 partition. Depending on the original poster's suite of peripherals, there is another wrinkle in this discussion that argues for installing OS 9 and 10.4 on one partition and OS 10.5 on a second partition. Printers and scanners rarely if ever work off drivers in both OS 9 and OS X. If you have a printer that runs with OS 9 and a second printer that runs with OS X, then you can have OS 9 on its own bootable partition and OS 5 on the other. If you have only one printer that you need to use with OS X, then the only access your OS 9 applications have to printing is via OS 10.4 when running in Classic mode. If you want to run OS 10.5, you have the option of setting up three partitions, one for each OS. Some transition users found problems with some OS 9 applications when OS 9 and OS X are installed on the same partition/volume/drive. But in our situation at home, we never had problems running OS 9 apps in Classic mode with OS 10.3 and never needed to boot into OS 9 after the first week or so of familiarity with OS 10.3. If you install OS 10.4 before installing OS 9, make sure to check the box for installing OS 9 drivers. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: An external HDD casing, with Firewire and DB-25 scsi
On Jan 9, 10:21 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On Jan 9, 2009, at 9:55 PM, Mullin9 wrote: I own a iMac G4, and a beige Mac, is there an external HDD casing, with Firewire and DB-25SCSI, so I hook it up to a DB25 on my Powermac 5300, and transfer my file to an iMac, using the FW 400 No, there's no case with Firewire andSCSI. Firewire cases all use PATA or SATA HDs, whileSCSIcases all useSCSIHDs. They are incompatible. Thank You very much for the reply --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Fwd: Time Machine Failing
Honestly - TM is simply not reliable. You'd be better off if you used CCC or SuperDuper. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth You were right. I wiped out the Time Machine backup volume and restarted it. Sure enough, I got the same failure note. I certainly would like to know what is causing this problem, but I haven't been able to find the log that would help. In the meantime, I'm using Super Duper as you recommended. Thanks Wilton Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
Without knowing exactly what error it ran into originally... the only choice left is to wipe out the backup and restart it. Chances are pretty good in n days it will slam into the same problemo tho. Honestly - TM is simply not reliable. You'd be better off if you used CCC or SuperDuper. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth I'm getting ready to wrap up my investigation concerning my Tine Machine problem. I have one last question. If I reinstall OS 10.5 would that resolve my problem? Thanks Wilton Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
On Jan 10, 2009, at 10:42 PM, Wilton Shaw wrote: Without knowing exactly what error it ran into originally... the only choice left is to wipe out the backup and restart it. Chances are pretty good in n days it will slam into the same problemo tho. Honestly - TM is simply not reliable. You'd be better off if you used CCC or SuperDuper. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth I'm getting ready to wrap up my investigation concerning my Tine Machine problem. I have one last question. If I reinstall OS 10.5 would that resolve my problem? Thanks Wilton Wilton Shaw whs...@verizon.net If the problem is caused by failing sectors on the HD, then the only thing that MIGHT help, is to 'Zero' all data. Erase option in Disk Utility. The 'Erase operation allows the HD firmware to map out sectors that are starting to fail. This MAY solve the problem, unless the 'failing' areas are growing in size (a likely thing to happen). Chuck D. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Time Machine Failing
At 10:42 PM -0500 1/10/2009, Wilton Shaw wrote: If I reinstall OS 10.5 would that resolve my problem? I doubt reinstalling OS X will help wrt Time Machine. At this time, TM is, IMO, a cute thing to play with, but that's all. Um... When you get a chance, please boot from your OS X DVD and do a repair disk on all your volumes. Let's make sure your internal (especially) is clean. (We still don't know exactly *why* TM is punting - it could be because it's falling into a hold on the source). - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G3 on Car Talk.
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates together. I think you all will like this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Z7eal4uXI On Jan 9, 1:05 am, KP parishky...@gmail.com wrote: I thought all of you would appreciate seeing the G3 on the bottom of Car Talks web-site.http://www.cartalk.com/content/features/carbon/ I think it's funny that commercials' or tv programs', use Macs' for the most part. You also see them in a lot of Movies. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
