iMac 333 cd reader / burner?

[MnDel]

I've dug my dear old green machine out of storage and have listed it
on the local  'Freecycle'.
Its tray cd reader is shot, so I went to OWC to see what I could
recommend the new owner get for a bootable USB1 CD reader/burner and
OWC didn't list G3 iMac accessories
Suggestions ? thanks, Del

( http://www.freecycle.org/  is a great local way to keep useful stuff
out of the landfill)
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Re: Damaged G5!!

[Dan A. Currie]

Kyle Hansen wrote:
> On 2/6/09 11:52 AM, "Wallace Adrian D'Alessio" 
> Broadcast into the ether:
>
>   
>> Well you just made a liar out of me.
>>
>> I remember now that a weird pic did show up on a LEM list last month.
>> I had put it out of my mind. It was wholly inappropriate!
>>
>> And G5s are cool looking even with moderate shipping damage. Gives 'em
>> that rugged look.
>> 
>
> I way grab a sawzall and cut the bent parts off and make it a simple box.
>
> Kyle Hansen
>   
I thought about that ... and where it will be located in my office it 
will not be seen at all ... but that is not what I purchased and I may 
want to sell it or "trade up" sometime in the future and either way its 
value is significantly reduced.

I am hoping UPS, the Seller, or eBay Protection will make it good ... 
and SOON!!

Dan

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Extra HDD

[Dan A. Currie]

Hello All,

Moving on from my G5 problems ... a new question.

I have an old but very functioning 6GB HDD that I would like to install 
in my G4 MDD DUAL 1.25 MHz / 2 GB RAM / 2 -120 GB and 1 - 200 GB HD / 
NETSCAPE 9.0.0.6 / OS X 10.5

I want to install OS 9.2 on it so that my son can still use some of the 
older MAC software.

Any particular place or order to install in the case?

Should the jumpers be set to MASTER or SLAVE since it will have an OS on it?

General advice accepted!!

TIA,

Dan Currie

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Re: Extra HDD

[Ken Daggett]

On 7 Feb 2009, at 06:13:19 PST, Dan A. Currie wrote:

> I have an old but very functioning 6GB HDD that I would like to  
> install
> in my G4 MDD DUAL 1.25 MHz / 2 GB RAM / 2 -120 GB and 1 - 200 GB HD /
> NETSCAPE 9.0.0.6 / OS X 10.5
>
> I want to install OS 9.2 on it so that my son can still use some of  
> the
> older MAC software.
>
> Any particular place or order to install in the case?
>
> Should the jumpers be set to MASTER or SLAVE since it will have an  
> OS on it?

I seem to recall there are places for 4 drives in my MDD. If you have  
just
the original drive, then the choice is simple. Attach it to the already
installed cable.

Settings. Hmmm. I am foggy here, but I think the jumper should be "cable
select."

Ken
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New DVD RW running slow on PowerMac G4 Dual 450

[ken...@gmail.com]

Hi, I'm new to this list and a lifetime mac user.  I'm not that
technical but have done my share of routine upgrades.

I have a G4 Dual 450 with 2GB RAM running OSX 10.3.9.  I bought and
installed this drive and ran an app call PatchBurn so it would work
with my OS:

PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-116D

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129023

It works for burning data DVDs and CD-Rs so far, haven't tried
anything else.  But it burns audio CDs pretty slowly, takes over 15
minutes, nowhere near the 40X peak capability of the drive.  I would
like to avoid intalling OSX 10.4 if possible.  The 40 pin cable is the
original that came with the computer.

Any ideas on how to get this thing to work faster?

Thanks
Ken


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Re: New DVD RW running slow on PowerMac G4 Dual 450

[Dan]

At 9:12 AM -0800 2/7/2009, ken...@gmail.com wrote:
>G4 Dual 450 with 2GB RAM running OSX 10.3.9.
>
>PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-116D
>
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129023
>
>It works for burning data DVDs and CD-Rs so far, haven't tried
>anything else.  But it burns audio CDs pretty slowly, takes over 15
>minutes, nowhere near the 40X peak capability of the drive.

You're burning from iTunes?  or ?

That 15 minutes does it include the format conversion (aac or mp3 
-> WAV) and the verify time?

The media can support a faster burning speed?

What burning speeds does Finder offer when you do a data burn?

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Re: New DVD RW running slow on PowerMac G4 Dual 450

[insightinmind]

On Feb 7, 2009, at 12:12 PM, ken...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Hi, I'm new to this list and a lifetime mac user.  I'm not that
> technical but have done my share of routine upgrades.
>
> I have a G4 Dual 450 with 2GB RAM running OSX 10.3.9.  I bought and
> installed this drive and ran an app call PatchBurn so it would work
> with my OS:
>
> PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-116D
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129023


Curious why you needed Patchburn ... wasn't the Pioneer 116D  
automatically recognized?

Do you need to set Master Slave settings ... can't remember about  
ATAPI DVRs ...

Probably already know ... but there's a Patchburn for 10.3 and  
another for 10.4 ... just in case you need it further.

Bill Connelly
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Re: New DVD RW running slow on PowerMac G4 Dual 450

[ken...@gmail.com]

Yes I'm just burning from iTunes.  I had a firewire CD-R before and it
wrote much faster (14X +) before it finally died.  The wierd thing
with this new drive is that iTunes rarely displays the write speed,
just finish time, but when it does it doesn't really get above 8X.  I
have my setting in iTunes to use maximum possible speed for burning.
For data I'm not sure, I will have to try it again.

I hope this is helpful.

On Feb 7, 9:48 am, Dan  wrote:
> At 9:12 AM -0800 2/7/2009, ken...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >G4 Dual 450 with 2GB RAM running OSX 10.3.9.
>
> >PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-116D
>
> >http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129023
>
> >It works for burning data DVDs and CD-Rs so far, haven't tried
> >anything else.  But it burns audio CDs pretty slowly, takes over 15
> >minutes, nowhere near the 40X peak capability of the drive.
>
> You're burning from iTunes?  or ?
>
> That 15 minutes does it include the format conversion (aac or mp3
> -> WAV) and the verify time?
>
> The media can support a faster burning speed?
>
> What burning speeds does Finder offer when you do a data burn?
>
> - Dan.
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Re: New DVD RW running slow on PowerMac G4 Dual 450

[ken...@gmail.com]

On Feb 7, 10:06 am, insightinmind  wrote:
> On Feb 7, 2009, at 12:12 PM, ken...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi, I'm new to this list and a lifetime mac user.  I'm not that
> > technical but have done my share of routine upgrades.
>
> > I have a G4 Dual 450 with 2GB RAM running OSX 10.3.9.  I bought and
> > installed this drive and ran an app call PatchBurn so it would work
> > with my OS:
>
> > PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-116D
>
> >http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129023
>
> Curious why you needed Patchburn ... wasn't the Pioneer 116D
> automatically recognized?

I was originally looking at MacMall and their tech support said this
drive would work on my OS but to intstall PatchBurn, I had never used
it before.

>
> Do you need to set Master Slave settings ... can't remember about
> ATAPI DVRs ...

I have never done this before, how do I check? The only other thing
I've found online that affects drive speed is the cable, and that it
should be an 80 pin cable?  I don't know how much difference it would
make and I think the original cable is in there...

Thanks
Ken

>
> Probably already know ... but there's a Patchburn for 10.3 and
> another for 10.4 ... just in case you need it further.
>
> Bill Connelly
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> myspace:http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio
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Endless problems with little windows on screen

[Jonas Lopez]

Endless problems with little windows on screen

I am not smart enough to know exactly what this is, but here goes: 

1. A small square of about 3 inches comes bouncing across the screen, I have to 
stop and click the X button to make it go away. 

Then on another site:

2. A 2 inch window keeps coming up from below the lower right edge of the main 
window, repeatedly clicking on it's X simply will not rid me of this irritation.

Is this a low form of a virus? 

They are all ads for one thing or another.

Any ideas will be greatly appreciated. 

Pop up is set, but still these come.


  

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Re: New DVD RW running slow on PowerMac G4 Dual 450

[Dan]

At 1:06 PM -0500 2/7/2009, insightinmind wrote:
>On Feb 7, 2009, at 12:12 PM, ken...@gmail.com wrote:
>Curious why you needed Patchburn ... wasn't the Pioneer 116D 
>automatically recognized?

Panther includes few profiles.

(All PatchBurn does is create a profile file that says the thing can burn).

>Do you need to set Master Slave settings ... can't remember about
>ATAPI DVRs ...

If he'd gotten it wrong, he'd have other problems.

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Re: Extra HDD

[Charles Davis]

On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:13 AM, Dan A. Currie wrote:

>
> Hello All,
>
> Moving on from my G5 problems ... a new question.
>
> I have an old but very functioning 6GB HDD that I would like to  
> install
> in my G4 MDD DUAL 1.25 MHz / 2 GB RAM / 2 -120 GB and 1 - 200 GB HD /
> NETSCAPE 9.0.0.6 / OS X 10.5
>
> I want to install OS 9.2 on it so that my son can still use some of  
> the
> older MAC software.
>
> Any particular place or order to install in the case?
>
> Should the jumpers be set to MASTER or SLAVE since it will have an  
> OS on it?

Master/Slave is a function of it's location in the 'Hardware  
Universe', NOT what is installed on the drive.
Chuck D.
>
> General advice accepted!!
>
> TIA,
>
> Dan Currie
>

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Re: Endless problems with little windows on screen

[Dan]

At 11:03 AM -0800 2/7/2009, Jonas Lopez wrote:
>Endless problems with little windows on screen
>
>1. A small square of about 3 inches comes bouncing across the 
>screen, I have to stop and click the X button to make it go away.

URL?

>2. A 2 inch window keeps coming up from below the lower right edge 
>of the main window, repeatedly clicking on it's X simply will not 
>rid me of this irritation.

URL?

Browser?

>Is this a low form of a virus?
>They are all ads for one thing or another.

Not a virus.  Just an annoying javascript that re-incarnates the 
window every time you close it.  Turning off pop-up windows should 
fix.

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PACE ??

[Charles Davis]

MDD Dual 1.25 1GB RAM

Using latest 'webkit' --- [problem also shows up with Firefox]

Running Activity Monitor continuously.

Dialup Internet connection (to watch transfer speeds)

Downloading "installed-ps3-minimal-20071212-r1.iso"
 From "http://gentoo.osuosl.org/experimental/ppc64/livecd/";

On 'Activity Monitor' a strange Process shows up.  "175PACE (Not  
Responding)"

Googled PACE, found that it May be 'download ownership/ permission/  
whatever'
Experimentation does show that it is associated with the 'downloading  
opertation'
It is possible to 'Quit Process', whereupon, Python makes a brief  
appearance in the 'process list'.

The 'Quit Process' also kills the download operation.

Chuck D.

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Re: OT Woz News

[Charles]

R.I.F.
Reading is Fundamental.

The article says "Chief Scientist" not "CEO"



On Feb 6, 9:39 am, Bruce Johnson  wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>
>
> > Was hoping he would fill in for Steve,
>
> He's had no day-to-day experience at Apple in decades, and Woz has  
> always been always an engineer at heart, a hacker, a tinkerer, not a  
> CEO.
>
> --
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PACE ?? more

[Charles Davis]

MDD Dual 1.25 1GB RAM

Using latest 'webkit' --- [problem also shows up with Firefox]

Running Activity Monitor continuously.

Dialup Internet connection (to watch transfer speeds)

Downloading "installed-ps3-minimal-20071212-r1.iso"
 From "http://gentoo.osuosl.org/experimental/ppc64/livecd/";

On 'Activity Monitor' a strange Process shows up.  "175PACE (Not  
Responding)"

Googled PACE, found that it May be 'download ownership/ permission/  
whatever'
Experimentation does show that it is associated with the 'downloading  
opertation'
It is possible to 'Quit Process', whereupon, Python makes a brief  
appearance in the 'process list'.

The 'Quit Process' also kills the download operation.

Oh yeah, after a bit (3 ~ 5 minutes),  " 357python (Not  
Responding)" shows up and stays on the 'process list"

Chuck D.

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Re: Extra HDD

[PeterH]

On Feb 7, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Charles Davis wrote:

>> Should the jumpers be set to MASTER or SLAVE since it will have an
>> OS on it?
>
> Master/Slave is a function of it's location in the 'Hardware
> Universe', NOT what is installed on the drive.

Master and Slave are misnamed as these are really peers of each other.

If there is only one drive, then it must be on the end of the cable,  
and it must be plugged as Master.

If there are two drives, then either drive may be Master. Obviously  
the remaining drive must be Slave.

These conventions have only partly to do with the normal functioning.

During initialization and drive "roll call", the special 80-wire/40- 
pin cable allows the IDE chip to interrogate the drives and set  
itself up for best possible performance of both drives.

The drives, therefore, need not be in the same performance class,  
although that us usually a good practice.





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Re: OT Woz News

[Charles Davis]

On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Charles wrote:

>
> R.I.F.
> Reading is Fundamental.
>
> The article says "Chief Scientist" not "CEO"

That IS what Bruce is saying!!!
Chuck D.
>
>
>
> On Feb 6, 9:39 am, Bruce Johnson  wrote:
>> On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Was hoping he would fill in for Steve,
>>
>> He's had no day-to-day experience at Apple in decades, and Woz has
>> always been always an engineer at heart, a hacker, a tinkerer, not a
>> CEO.
>>
>> --
>> Bruce Johnson
>> University of Arizona
>> College of Pharmacy
>> Information Technology Group
>>
>> Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs

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Re: OT Woz News

[Charles]

Missed the obvious, that the obvious was being stated!


On Feb 7, 2:12 pm, Charles Davis  wrote:
> On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Charles wrote:
>
>
>
> > R.I.F.
> > Reading is Fundamental.
>
> > The article says "Chief Scientist" not "CEO"
>
> That IS what Bruce is saying!!!
> Chuck D.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 6, 9:39 am, Bruce Johnson  wrote:
> >> On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:11 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
> >>> Was hoping he would fill in for Steve,
>
> >> He's had no day-to-day experience at Apple in decades, and Woz has
> >> always been always an engineer at heart, a hacker, a tinkerer, not a
> >> CEO.
>
> >> --
> >> Bruce Johnson
> >> University of Arizona
> >> College of Pharmacy
> >> Information Technology Group
>
> >> Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs- Hide quoted text -
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Re: Endless problems with little windows on screen

[Len Gerstel]

On Feb 7, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Jonas Lopez wrote:

>
> Endless problems with little windows on screen
>
> I am not smart enough to know exactly what this is, but here goes:
>
> 1. A small square of about 3 inches comes bouncing across the  
> screen, I have to stop and click the X button to make it go away.
>
> Then on another site:
>
> 2. A 2 inch window keeps coming up from below the lower right edge  
> of the main window, repeatedly clicking on it's X simply will not  
> rid me of this irritation.
>
> Is this a low form of a virus?
>
> They are all ads for one thing or another.
>
> Any ideas will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Pop up is set, but still these come.

Welcome to the World Wide Web.

This is part of the long running battle between advertisers and  
developers. The advertisers will almost always be a step ahead of the  
developers and what users will install.  The main reason is the  
motivation. Advertisers are motivated by the money to be made, and  
the developers are motivated by by the annoyances created by the  
advertisers. And cold, hard cash will almost always trump annoyance.

The hard thing to remember here is that those annoying windows are  
put there by people paying the web sites you visit to allow them to  
provide you with "free" content, like the commercials on free  
television. If no one either sees them (advertisers pay per viewing  
of the ad) or clicks through (pay per click), then the content  
providers make no money from the site, and have trouble keeping the  
site running.

See the following post from slashdot.org:

> Why Your Pop-Up Blocker Doesn't Work Anymore:
> An anonymous reader writes "If you've noticed that pop-up ad  
> windows seem to have made an unwelcome return into your life, it's  
> because they're not using the same easily blockable technology as  
> before. The Adimpact system uses DHTML to annoy you, and there's no  
> immediate prospect of a solution."

at:

http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/02/05/1410230
http://tinyurl.com/d8fxwg

Doing the following will help some, but nothing is 100% effective,  
and the following may block some content on the sites you are trying  
to visit.

Turn on block pop ups
install Ad blocker software or add ons (I use Ad Block Plus on Firefox)
Install a "no script" add on and turn off Java script and Java

In addition, the latest developer overnight builds tend to have the  
most up to date blocking capabilities and can help block these at the  
possible risks of being a little more unstable or certain features  
not working. Dan swears by the latest Webkit builds, and I tend to  
use the latest Firefox overnight build, currently at beta for Firefox  
3.1.

  Don't know if that helped, but at least you know you are not alone.

Len



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What is my G4 Powerbook worth?

[Jeff Fox]

I was recently given a G4 Powerbook. When it is powered on it displays
the Apple logo and then freezes. The Apple Store told the previous
owner that the logic board is bad.

I have removed the hard drive to recover the data for the previous
owner. I plan to keep the hard drive and install it in an external
enclosure and use as with time machine.

The machine has 1 GB of RAM, airport extreme, and a 17" screen.
I'd like to sell it for a reasonable price. How much should I ask?
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PACE ?? more & more yet

[Charles Davis]

MDD Dual 1.25 1GB RAM

Using latest 'webkit' --- [problem also shows up with Firefox]

Running Activity Monitor continuously.

Dialup Internet connection (to watch transfer speeds)

Downloading "installed-ps3-minimal-20071212-r1.iso"
 From "http://gentoo.osuosl.org/experimental/ppc64/livecd/";

On 'Activity Monitor' a strange Process shows up.  "175PACE (Not  
Responding)"

Googled PACE, found that it May be 'download ownership/ permission/  
whatever'
Experimentation does show that it is associated with the 'downloading  
opertation'
It is possible to 'Quit Process', whereupon, Python makes a brief  
appearance in the 'process list'.

The 'Quit Process' also kills the download operation.

Oh yeah, after a bit (3 ~ 5 minutes),  " 357python (Not  
Responding)" shows up and stays on the 'process list"

Subsequent Re-Start of the download, does NOT get the PACE process,  
(but the python (Not Responding) is there.

Figuring that the 'Not Responding' means that there are very little  
resources being wasted, I'll let the download continue (Killing  
'python' may do in the download.

At the present time, it's got 6.3 of 275 MB (3.3 KB/sec)
Internet connect says the connection is "34667 bps", information from  
the 'Activity screen' indicates packets @ (present time, while  
writing this) 3.66,3.69,5.30,3.0   most at 3.66 but the 'retrain'  
gets things all over the ballpark'.
Supposedly another 22 hours, 42 minutes remaining.

Chuck D.

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Re: OT Woz News

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Charles  wrote:
>
> R.I.F.
> Reading is Fundamental.
>
> The article says "Chief Scientist" not "CEO"
>


With respect,


R.I.F. indeed. If you follow the thread beginning to end you will
understand what the discussion is.

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Re: OT Woz News

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Charles Davis  wrote:
>
>
> On Feb 7, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Charles wrote:
>
>>
>> R.I.F.
>> Reading is Fundamental.
>>
>> The article says "Chief Scientist" not "CEO"
>
> That IS what Bruce is saying!!!

Respectfully Charles not exactly.  The article talks about Woz' new position .
I said in my first post ; "
Was hoping he would fill in for Steve,"

to which Bruce said; " He's had no day-to-day experience at Apple in
decades, and Woz has
always been always an engineer at heart, a hacker, a tinkerer, not a
CEO."

I then said
 " But there would be no better interim figurehead!

 Bolster morale to the faithful troops and carry the flag etc."

Some think a " professional" CEO would care enough to do a good job
for the company.

If it was an Apple insider, perhaps.



Adrian D'Alessio

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Re: Apple pro speakers & Leopard?

[Jeff Bequette]

On Feb 6, 2009, at 9:58 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:I'm looking to trade an external 2.5 80gb hd for a set that will work  with the mdd. J i think the pro speakers shipped with the cube or usb and wont work  on the mdd but the other set of pro spealers work fine with 10.5 i  know i have a set hooked into my mdd running leopardhope this helpsroger--- On Fri, 2/6/09, Jeffrey Engle  wrote: From: Jeffrey Engle Subject: Apple pro speakers & Leopard?I have an mdd fw800. I'd like to find a set of speakers,the roundapple "orbs" that will work with my mdd runningLeopard? any issues?and are the "orbs" the same as the ones shippedwith the Powermac G4Cube? or are they different? In other words, are all the"apple prospeakers" the same?Jeff EngleKamiah, Idaho 83536208-935-0992eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedbackPaypal strongly preferred at:twoapplen...@gmail.comShips from:Jeff EngleKamiah, Idaho 83536208-935-0992eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback The Apple Pro speakers have a "Apple Special Jack" Apple Pro Speakers (p/n 1001632)Apple Pro SpeakersM8756G/A Apple Pro SpeakersApple Pro SpeakersDescription  Apple Pro Speakers feature powerful Harman Kardon audio technology. They connect to your Power Mac G4 desktop systems using a single cable which provides 20 watts of sound (10 watts/channel) to the speakers with a frequency range of 70 hertz to 20 kilohertz.   Apple Pro Speakers are different from the speakers that came with the Power Mac G4 Cube: While the Apple Pro Speakers look very similar to the Power Mac G4 Cube speakers, the Apple Pro Speakers get their power from the computer and thus require a system with an Apple speaker minijack (like the one that's on the new Power Mac G4). The Power Mac G4 Cube speakers, on the other hand, are USB-powered and are designed to work only with Power Mac G4 Cube systems. Also, the G4 Cube speakers have an external amplifier, whereas the Power Mac G4 has an internal amplifier that supports the Apple Pro Speakers.   The analog-based speakers require systems with an Apple speaker minijack. They are not USB-based speakers  Jeff Bequettejbeque...@tconl.com 

Re: Apple pro speakers & Leopard?

[Jeff Bequette]

On Feb 6, 2009, at 9:58 AM, Jeffrey Engle wrote:

>
> I'm looking to trade an external 2.5 80gb hd for a set that will work
> with the mdd. J
> On Feb 6, 2009, at 7:56 AM, roger deghetto wrote:
>
>>
>> i think the pro speakers shipped with the cube or usb and wont work
>> on the mdd but the other set of pro spealers work fine with 10.5 i
>> know i have a set hooked into my mdd running leopard
>> hope this helps
>> roger
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 2/6/09, Jeffrey Engle  wrote:
>>
>>> From: Jeffrey Engle 
>>> Subject: Apple pro speakers & Leopard?
>>> To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 10:54 AM
>>> I have an mdd fw800. I'd like to find a set of speakers,
>>> the round
>>> apple "orbs" that will work with my mdd running
>>> Leopard? any issues?
>>> and are the "orbs" the same as the ones shipped
>>> with the Powermac G4
>>> Cube? or are they different? In other words, are all the
>>> "apple pro
>>> speakers" the same?
>>>
>>> Jeff Engle
>>> Kamiah, Idaho 83536
>>>
>>> 208-935-0992
>>> eBay ID: Bluebedheads w/290+ pos. feedback
>>>
>>>
>>>
Griffen made an "ifire adaptor"  if you can find one.


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Re: PACE ?? more & more yet

[glen]

> 
> Dialup Internet connection (to watch transfer speeds)
> 

> 
> At the present time, it's got 6.3 of 275 MB (3.3 KB/sec)
> Internet connect says the connection is "34667 bps", information from  
> the 'Activity screen' indicates packets @ (present time, while  
> writing this) 3.66,3.69,5.30,3.0   most at 3.66 but the 'retrain'  
> gets things all over the ballpark'.
> Supposedly another 22 hours, 42 minutes remaining.
> 

If you are on a dialup connection and getting 3.3 KB/sec download speed the 
time to download a 275 MB file will be 275000 KB/3.3 = 8 sec divided by 60 
seconds/minute = 1389 minutes divided by 60 minutes/hour = 23.15 hr. This not 
account for the 6.3 MB you have already downloaded.

The 3.3 KB/sec seems about the same average download speed I achieved when I 
was on dialup. If lucky I could 5 or 6 KB/sec.

The 34667 bps is bits/sec not bites/sec so you have to divide by 8 or is is 9 
for modems don't remember the modem conversion to Kilobites (KB)

I'm sure someone will correct my math but the time indicated does not seem out 
of the ordinary for dialup. ---glen



  

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Re: What is my G4 Powerbook worth?

[Robert MacLeay]

There are plenty of broken PowerBooks selling on eBay.

Check out the auctions and you will get a feel what people are willing
to pay for them.

On Feb 7, 1:40 pm, Jeff  Fox  wrote:
> I was recently given a G4 Powerbook. When it is powered on it displays
> the Apple logo and then freezes. The Apple Store told the previous
> owner that the logic board is bad.
>
> I have removed the hard drive to recover the data for the previous
> owner. I plan to keep the hard drive and install it in an external
> enclosure and use as with time machine.
>
> The machine has 1 GB of RAM, airport extreme, and a 17" screen.
> I'd like to sell it for a reasonable price. How much should I ask?
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Re: PACE ?? more & more yet

[Charles Davis]

On Feb 7, 2009, at 7:35 PM, glen wrote:

>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Dialup Internet connection (to watch transfer speeds)
>>
>
>>
>> At the present time, it's got 6.3 of 275 MB (3.3 KB/sec)
>> Internet connect says the connection is "34667 bps", information from
>> the 'Activity screen' indicates packets @ (present time, while
>> writing this) 3.66,3.69,5.30,3.0   most at 3.66 but the 'retrain'
>> gets things all over the ballpark'.
>> Supposedly another 22 hours, 42 minutes remaining.
>>
>
> If you are on a dialup connection and getting 3.3 KB/sec download  
> speed the time to download a 275 MB file will be 275000 KB/3.3 =  
> 8 sec divided by 60 seconds/minute = 1389 minutes divided by 60  
> minutes/hour = 23.15 hr. This not account for the 6.3 MB you have  
> already downloaded.
>
> The 3.3 KB/sec seems about the same average download speed I  
> achieved when I was on dialup. If lucky I could 5 or 6 KB/sec.
>
> The 34667 bps is bits/sec not bites/sec so you have to divide by 8  
> or is is 9 for modems don't remember the modem conversion to  
> Kilobites (KB)
>
> I'm sure someone will correct my math but the time indicated does  
> not seem out of the ordinary for dialup. ---glen
>
>
>
Hi Glen;
I wasn't worried about the Looong download time. That is one of the  
'crosses to ear' with Dialup.
What I was looking for, was some opinions Re The "PACE" process that  
appeared on the activity screen.

I know I didn't download anything like that ---  it's ACTING like a  
virus (I.E. Un-wanted, doing whatever, that I'm not interested in  
having done.)

Chuck D.

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Connect PC to Mac

[George Hozendorf]

I need to connect a PC to my Mac, but don't have an IP address for the  
PC.  Is there any way to do this?

George

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Re: 2002 iMac Flat Panel, boot in OS 9.2.2, not 9.2.1

[Mullin9]

>
> You can install the 9.2.2 netboot version from OS X:
>
> 
>
> Remove the two netboot extensions from the System folder>Extensions  
> folder before using.
>
> Remember you must have the OS 9 drivers installed on the HD.

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Power Macintosh 7600, with G3 Beige LoBo

[Mullin9]

I have the shell of a Power Mac 7600,
and the Powersupply/LoBo of Power Mac G3 Beige minitower.

Will the Parts fit and make a working G3 Desktop?



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Re: Power Macintosh 7600, with G3 Beige LoBo

[PeterH]

On Feb 7, 2009, at 7:20 PM, Mullin9 wrote:

> I have the shell of a Power Mac 7600,
> and the Powersupply/LoBo of Power Mac G3 Beige minitower.
>
> Will the Parts fit and make a working G3 Desktop?

No, the "7500 Case" was revised to accommodate the "riser" card.

But, I suppose you could try it as the "riser" is really only  
necessary for sound.



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