Re: Installing 3rd Party Drivers under OS X 10.5.6
On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Bill Connelly wrote: > All USB/FW > onboard ports are working. I needed extras for other devices, > currently not connected. I'd look into hubs, both USB and FW. You can't remover the drivers for the onboard ethernet, your Rosewill card uses the same ones, iirc. (It's a realtek-based card, isn't it?) The issue, as always, when something gets fried on a logic board, is what else was damaged by the voltage spike. Sadly, this is a simple but expensive thing to check...just get a known-good logic board and swap it in. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing 3rd Party Drivers under OS X 10.5.6
On Mar 18, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: > >> OS X 10.5.6 1.5GB SDRAM (2 new from OWC, 1 old from DMS ... all 512 >> PC133) >> >> AGP Slot1 ATI Radeon 9800Pro Mac Edition >> PCI Slot2 empty (for air circulation around the video card) >> PCI Slot3 M-Audio 2496 Rev B (v 2.0.8) >> PCI Slot4 Rosewill NIC 10/100/1000 >> PCI Slot5 Sonnet Tango USB1.1/FW400 > > Is something wrong with the onboard ethernet, FW and USB? Onboard ethernet got zapped a year ago. Used a USB Wireless for awhile. Then moved to my NIC a month ago. One USB port in the back of the QS is a bit loose, but seems to hold its own for now. All USB/FW onboard ports are working. I needed extras for other devices, currently not connected. Anything I might do to remove any dependence on trying to startup the onboard ethernet? I'm able to go into IONetworkingFamily.kext and remove the Plugin(s) ... well with some refresher help. The Rosewill NIC uses the Realtek 8169 plugin supplied by Apple. > > > My first inclination would be to temporarily remove the NIC and the > Sonnett card, and see if you get the kinds of problems you're seeing. > > Then I'd move the M-audio card to another slot to see if it IS the > slot. I experimented with the other M-Audio card being alone, and in a different slot. Same behavior, IIRC. > > >> >> Everything works fine in 10.5.6 before the M-Audio drivers try to >> kick >> in. Ran for about a week before the replacement audio card arrived >> and >> I installed the drivers. Week of light duty use ... but multiple Cold >> Boots and Restarts with no problems. >> > > I don't know how much current the M-Audio card pulls, it's possible > that you're skating close to some limit or another. > > See what happens if you remove the other cards. If it still happens > it's either the drivers or something flaky with your logic board. Thanks. Just replaced the PRAM Battery (had a new one lying close by), and did the CUDA (although I think removing the battery does that too?) First Startup and the M-Audio driver didn't load. AppleJack is next. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing 3rd Party Drivers under OS X 10.5.6
On Mar 18, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Bill Connelly wrote: > OS X 10.5.6 1.5GB SDRAM (2 new from OWC, 1 old from DMS ... all 512 > PC133) > > AGP Slot1 ATI Radeon 9800Pro Mac Edition > PCI Slot2 empty (for air circulation around the video card) > PCI Slot3 M-Audio 2496 Rev B (v 2.0.8) > PCI Slot4 Rosewill NIC 10/100/1000 > PCI Slot5 Sonnet Tango USB1.1/FW400 Is something wrong with the onboard ethernet, FW and USB? My first inclination would be to temporarily remove the NIC and the Sonnett card, and see if you get the kinds of problems you're seeing. Then I'd move the M-audio card to another slot to see if it IS the slot. > > Everything works fine in 10.5.6 before the M-Audio drivers try to kick > in. Ran for about a week before the replacement audio card arrived and > I installed the drivers. Week of light duty use ... but multiple Cold > Boots and Restarts with no problems. > I don't know how much current the M-Audio card pulls, it's possible that you're skating close to some limit or another. See what happens if you remove the other cards. If it still happens it's either the drivers or something flaky with your logic board. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: g4 MDD fw 400 mhz no start with os 9
2009/3/18 Ken Daggett > > > On 18 Mar 2009, at 04:56:33 PDT, k l wrote: > > > secind hand bought - Its not able to start in os 9 it freezes > > just before the extensionparade - startin from original g4 > > 9.2.2 install cd or from a copied from my D A g4, same > > thing - with or without extensions off - it stops just before > > extension load, works flawless with os X 2 x 867 mhz - > > 1.5 g ram 400 mhz firewire > > help ! > > and I need os 9 for my hobbies > > The MDD is VERY particular about the version of OS 9.2.2 > installed. It MUST be the version that shipped with the > machine. Versions for other G4s will NOT work. > > Speaking from experience, trying other versions will give > you nothing but frustration. > > Ken > http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs > > > THANK YOU - thatr was very interesting to read ! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing 3rd Party Drivers under OS X 10.5.6
On Mar 18, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Dan wrote: > > The driver package you're installing... how big is it? is it > available for public download? Yes. Delta_OSX_2.0.8.dmg from www.m-Audio.com > Support > Drivers & Updates > Delta Series > Delta Audiophile 2496 > OS X 10.5.6: http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=support&tab=driver&serie_ID=1&PID=adf95efc30b88aba043fa8b83343bfb8&OS=81#tabs > > >> The reason I'm asking ... Their Installer was written to comply with >> 10.4.11 ... it didn't change when 10.5 came out. They're Un-installer >> doesn't work under 10.5 ... although it works under 10.4. > > yea, I saw that in your forum thread. Doubt that's the problem tho. Just thought that might indicate an Installer bookkeeping problem on m- audio tech staff's part. If they don't know how to remove the files they Install, could they be installed incorrectly? That was just a test I would use if I were their programmer. >> >> I did a Safe Boot thinking that replenished caches. > > It does. > >> But I will try the CUDA again, and Applejack. > > I'm just thinking maybe there's something the power manager needs to > see. Hitting the CUDA reboots it, making it go back thru its > autoconfigure sequence. I will try it again soon. > > Starting to smell like a timing issue; maybe the driver is poking at > the card, before it's ready, then not sticking around for the > response. Looking at the system.log and panic reports to Apple seems to me it occurs "around" LoginWindow ... before / after timing problem ... I'm just guessing though ... don't really know how to read these reports ... > > > What else do you have in that PCI bus? OS X 10.5.6 1.5GB SDRAM (2 new from OWC, 1 old from DMS ... all 512 PC133) AGP Slot1 ATI Radeon 9800Pro Mac Edition PCI Slot2 empty (for air circulation around the video card) PCI Slot3 M-Audio 2496 Rev B (v 2.0.8) PCI Slot4 Rosewill NIC 10/100/1000 PCI Slot5 Sonnet Tango USB1.1/FW400 Everything works fine in 10.5.6 before the M-Audio drivers try to kick in. Ran for about a week before the replacement audio card arrived and I installed the drivers. Week of light duty use ... but multiple Cold Boots and Restarts with no problems. Could my PCI bus be flaky? AHT runs and tests the mobo ok. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! I've lost one harddrive and now the main harddrive won't boot!
Hi All - thanks for your advice. I think it's definitely a corrupted system problem. Tried to do an Archive and Install and the problem got worse, to the point where Disk First Aid has gone from saying there is nothing wrong with the disk, to saying it cannot be repaired! Yuck! >From the OS X install disk, I can select OS9 on my computer as a startup disk and it starts and loads fine, with all files present and everything functioning. OS X won't load and now I just get a blue screen (before I was getting my custom desktop picture and the dock and file headers) I have ordered an upgrade for my Disk Warrior, and will just have to sit tight until it gets here! I'll be sure to let you know if it fixes the problem. BTW - I started to notice little problems with my system after I installed the last system update from Apple. Has anyone else experienced problems after that update? Just wondering, because my system was very stable until then. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing 3rd Party Drivers under OS X 10.5.6
At 12:34 PM -0400 3/18/2009, Bill Connelly wrote: >On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Dan wrote: > > At 12:13 AM -0400 3/18/2009, insightinmind wrote: >>> Is it possible to install 3rd party drivers during a Safe Boot? > > yes. > >> If so, is it better? > > No. > > Slap the files in and you still have to reboot to load 'em. > >So there's no difference in Ownership or Permissions that might affect >Startup loading, if I install drivers in a Safe Boot versus >"Administrative User" Mode? Maybe not OS X 10.5 - wise, but if the 3rd >party Installer isn't written quite right ... could a difference be >made? No. If the files are being put there by an installer with bad permissions, then it won't matter how you're booted - the installer is foo. You can just change the permissions manually. WRT kernel extensions it really should be moot - they're loaded under root, which ignores permissions anyway. The driver package you're installing... how big is it? is it available for public download? >The reason I'm asking ... Their Installer was written to comply with >10.4.11 ... it didn't change when 10.5 came out. They're Un-installer >doesn't work under 10.5 ... although it works under 10.4. yea, I saw that in your forum thread. Doubt that's the problem tho. > >> Stumped again ... this involves a new replacement PCI audio card >>> installed in my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz, OS X 10.5.6, 1.5GB SDRAM. >>> >>> Same Old Problem New PCI Audio card. >>> >>> I'm having trouble with its drivers loading sometimes, and other >>> times not ... seems to be having problems "around" "Login Window". >>> >>> I use auto Login on Startup and Restarts. Cold Boot sometimes gives > >> me a Blue Screen, Restarts sometimes fixes things. > > > > hum. Hit the CUDA, to restart the power manager after you install > > the card. Use AppleJack to clear the kernel caches and rebuild them. > >I did a Safe Boot thinking that replenished caches. It does. >But I will try the CUDA again, and Applejack. I'm just thinking maybe there's something the power manager needs to see. Hitting the CUDA reboots it, making it go back thru its autoconfigure sequence. > > Get rid of auto-login. Having things STOP and display that login >> screen tells you if it got that far properly. Then you can see how >> things go from there. >> >> Loading sometimes... Does it seem to load more often on a warm >> restart or a cold boot (from power off). I'm thinking maybe the card >> isn't coming to life and responding to the driver's initial probe >> fast enough. > >More so in a warm, Restart. > >Funny ... earlier today ... they didn't load on Cold Boot ... but did >so later in the same session ... have 2 Apple System Profiler's to >prove it. Starting to smell like a timing issue; maybe the driver is poking at the card, before it's ready, then not sticking around for the response. What else do you have in that PCI bus? - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 iMac desktop screen keeps redrawing
> > At 11:24 PM + 3/17/2009, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: >> G4 iMac, running 10.4.11. >> In the past week, I have noticed that the desktop screen keeps >> re-drawing every few minutes. > > I've had this happen a few times, in Tiger. Turned out to be a > poorly sized background picture. The fix was to dump > ~/Library/Caches/Desktop/ then select a different picture in the > system prefs. > > Could also be apps like StuffIt or even hardware, as others suggest, tho. > > - Dan. Look in System Pref. If you have a pref pane called Stuffit AVR and it's checked... Uncheck it. Andy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing 3rd Party Drivers under OS X 10.5.6
On Mar 18, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Dan wrote: > > At 12:13 AM -0400 3/18/2009, insightinmind wrote: >> Is it possible to install 3rd party drivers during a Safe Boot? > > yes. > >> If so, is it better? > > No. > > Slap the files in and you still have to reboot to load 'em. So there's no difference in Ownership or Permissions that might affect Startup loading, if I install drivers in a Safe Boot versus "Administrative User" Mode? Maybe not OS X 10.5 - wise, but if the 3rd party Installer isn't written quite right ... could a difference be made? The reason I'm asking ... Their Installer was written to comply with 10.4.11 ... it didn't change when 10.5 came out. They're Un-installer doesn't work under 10.5 ... although it works under 10.4. > > >> Stumped again ... this involves a new replacement PCI audio card >> installed in my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz, OS X 10.5.6, 1.5GB SDRAM. >> >> Same Old Problem New PCI Audio card. >> >> I'm having trouble with its drivers loading sometimes, and other >> times not ... seems to be having problems "around" "Login Window". >> >> I use auto Login on Startup and Restarts. Cold Boot sometimes gives >> me a Blue Screen, Restarts sometimes fixes things. > > hum. Hit the CUDA, to restart the power manager after you install > the card. Use AppleJack to clear the kernel caches and rebuild them. I did a Safe Boot thinking that replenished caches. But I will try the CUDA again, and Applejack. > > > Get rid of auto-login. Having things STOP and display that login > screen tells you if it got that far properly. Then you can see how > things go from there. > > Loading sometimes... Does it seem to load more often on a warm > restart or a cold boot (from power off). I'm thinking maybe the card > isn't coming to life and responding to the driver's initial probe > fast enough. More so in a warm, Restart. Funny ... earlier today ... they didn't load on Cold Boot ... but did so later in the same session ... have 2 Apple System Profiler's to prove it. > > >> Apologies for being vague ... particulars can be found on M-Audio's >> site Forum (if you're really interested): >> http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?t=3856 > > Off to read that. It's the "Plus" file in the M-Audio Forum (go to page 5 ). Sorry for it being in pdf ... they won't allow spx, although I can trick their system by calling it a pdf file ... except it has to be less than 1MB. Thanks for your help. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Installing 3rd Party Drivers under OS X 10.5.6
At 12:13 AM -0400 3/18/2009, insightinmind wrote: >Is it possible to install 3rd party drivers during a Safe Boot? yes. >If so, is it better? No. Slap the files in and you still have to reboot to load 'em. >Stumped again ... this involves a new replacement PCI audio card >installed in my QS 2002 Dual 1GHz, OS X 10.5.6, 1.5GB SDRAM. > >Same Old Problem New PCI Audio card. > >I'm having trouble with its drivers loading sometimes, and other >times not ... seems to be having problems "around" "Login Window". > >I use auto Login on Startup and Restarts. Cold Boot sometimes gives >me a Blue Screen, Restarts sometimes fixes things. hum. Hit the CUDA, to restart the power manager after you install the card. Use AppleJack to clear the kernel caches and rebuild them. Get rid of auto-login. Having things STOP and display that login screen tells you if it got that far properly. Then you can see how things go from there. Loading sometimes... Does it seem to load more often on a warm restart or a cold boot (from power off). I'm thinking maybe the card isn't coming to life and responding to the driver's initial probe fast enough. >Apologies for being vague ... particulars can be found on M-Audio's >site Forum (if you're really interested): >http://forums.m-audio.com/showthread.php?t=3856 Off to read that. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 iMac desktop screen keeps redrawing
At 11:24 PM + 3/17/2009, janespra...@comcast.net wrote: >G4 iMac, running 10.4.11. >In the past week, I have noticed that the desktop screen keeps >re-drawing every few minutes. I've had this happen a few times, in Tiger. Turned out to be a poorly sized background picture. The fix was to dump ~/Library/Caches/Desktop/ then select a different picture in the system prefs. Could also be apps like StuffIt or even hardware, as others suggest, tho. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 iMac desktop screen keeps redrawing
On Mar 18, 2009, at 8:57 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: > > I have a G4 iMac, running 10.4.11. In the past week, I have noticed > that the desktop screen keeps re-drawing every few minutes. I ran > Disk permissions and Onyx and I didn't get any negative messages. > Any idea what could be causing the re-drawing? > > (i hope I am explaining "redrawing" as the right action. The > desktop blinks and then everything on it appears again.) > > jane This sounds more like a hardware issue than software. Do you hear any noises coming out of the monitor or computer when it blinks? Len --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: verbose mode during startup-sequence
On Mar 18, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Lawrence David Eden wrote: > When I used XPostFacto on my Beige G3, it defaulted to verbose mode; > the start-up sequence was written out so that I could follow each > step while the Mac was booting. Now that I have gone to a B&W, I no > longer need XPostFacto but I would still like to have verbose mode > displayed on my monitor. > I want this to be the B&W's default behavior. How is it done? Either: --- Use Terminal, in a Terminal command line type: sudo nvram boot-args="-v" To disable Verbose booting: sudo nvram boot-args= --- alternatively, you can set the verbose mode from the Open Firmware prompt by starting up in Open Firmware by holding the Cmd-Opt-O-F keys at startup, and then at the prompt, type: setenv boot-args -v hitting the Return key after any command. Then type "bye" or "boot" without quotes to restart. Similarly, to disable verbose: setenv boot-args --- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 iMac desktop screen keeps redrawing
Do you have StuffitDeluxe installed? If the answer is YES, do a search for Stuffit AVR. If you find it, disable it or delete it and see if the problem goes away. I have a G4 iMac, running 10.4.11. In the past week, I have noticed that the desktop screen keeps re-drawing every few minutes. I ran Disk permissions and Onyx and I didn't get any negative messages. Any idea what could be causing the re-drawing? (i hope I am explaining "redrawing" as the right action. The desktop blinks and then everything on it appears again.) jane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
verbose mode during startup-sequence
Dear List Members, When I used XPostFacto on my Beige G3, it defaulted to verbose mode; the start-up sequence was written out so that I could follow each step while the Mac was booting. Now that I have gone to a B&W, I no longer need XPostFacto but I would still like to have verbose mode displayed on my monitor. I want this to be the B&W's default behavior. How is it done? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: g4 MDD fw 400 mhz no start with os 9
On 18 Mar 2009, at 04:56:33 PDT, k l wrote: > secind hand bought - Its not able to start in os 9 it freezes > just before the extensionparade - startin from original g4 > 9.2.2 install cd or from a copied from my D A g4, same > thing - with or without extensions off - it stops just before > extension load, works flawless with os X 2 x 867 mhz - > 1.5 g ram 400 mhz firewire > help ! > and I need os 9 for my hobbies The MDD is VERY particular about the version of OS 9.2.2 installed. It MUST be the version that shipped with the machine. Versions for other G4s will NOT work. Speaking from experience, trying other versions will give you nothing but frustration. Ken http://mysite.verizon.net/res7gt1w/stackomacs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
g4 MDD fw 400 mhz no start with os 9
secind hand bought - Its not able to start in os 9 it freezes just before the extensionparade - startin from original g4 9.2.2 install cd or from a copied from my D A g4, same thing - with or without extensions off - it stops just before extension load, works flawless with os X 2 x 867 mhz - 1.5 g ram 400 mhz firewire help ! and I need os 9 for my hobbies. k --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
