Re: Help! I've lost one harddrive and now the main harddrive won't boot!
What about SMART (S.M.A.R.T.) status and functionality? Shouldn't the drive's built-in SMART routines map out bad blocks? If they do, will the Surface Scan still try to read those blocks? BTW, is Tech Tools Deluxe really TechTool Pro, or is it a different program I haven't encoountered yet? - Aaron Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:34:52 -0700 (PDT) From: gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com Greetings ( + )!( + ) What you describe is exatly the same that I was having. Used Tech Tools Deluxe Surface Scan on my 320Gb drive (took about 12 Hrs.) and the report was Failed - Bad Blocks so I've laid that disk to rest RIP and have ordered a new drive. If you have Tech Tools Deluxe run the Surface Scan you will be surprised what it will find. Cheers - Harry - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: fans on G5 - off to the races!-Paging Dan-Psychoceramic Emeritus
Hey Bruce, if you're anywhere out there - Am absolutely fascinated by all this . . . I've often wondered about Carbon Copy Cloner whenever I've seen it mentioned in these posts. Since reading your recommendation I've downloaded it and it's now installed in my Apps folder good to go. But, up front, I must confess that although I'm fairly handy with managing my Macs, I don't claim to be even remotely techy. I've plowed thru Mike Bombich's FAQs and other CCC documentation but I'm still very apprehensive at the prospect of what I'm proposing to do: I want to clone the ageing Main 80Gig IBM drive on my G4 dual-1Gig MDD (running 10.4.11) onto a vacant partition on my newish 500Gig WD external drive. The IBM, although it's never missed a beat, is over 5 years old and its days are surely numbered. So I'm trying to insure myself against the day when it inevitably dies on me. All drives involved are formatted HFS+ Journaled. I've set up the 500Gig WD external with 3 partitions: 2 x 180Gig 1 x 100Gig The 2 x 180Gig partitions are regularly used for backing up all my treasured files (graphic art, Cubase Audio recordings etc). The 1 x 100Gig partition is vacant, has never been used - I've reserved it expressly for this purpose. What I'm concerned about is this: When Mike Bombich says that CCC erases the target drive in order to do its thing, does he mean it erases the ENTIRE drive? Or will it safely clone to the vacant partition leaving the files on the other two partitions intact? Also, considering CCC is installed in the Apps folder of the IBM, are there any issues regarding, basically, having this drive clone ITSELF while it's essentially the active drive? If I understand the documentation correctly, it seems to say it can be done, albeit preferably during idle time. Although it would be handy, the clone on the WD doesn't necessarily have to be bootable. Mike states that this can be a problem with certain WD externals. I just want to have a current copy of my main drive stored securely away ready to go onto a newly-installed Main drive when the IBM eventually gives up the ghost. Please forgive the non-tech speak . . . Any insight you can provide for this relative layman would be hugely appreciated. Cheers artemis --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! I've lost one harddrive and now the main harddrive won't boot!
On Mar 20, 2009, at 6:36 AM, Aaron wrote: What about SMART (S.M.A.R.T.) status and functionality? Shouldn't the drive's built-in SMART routines map out bad blocks? If they do, will the Surface Scan still try to read those blocks? AFAIK, original S.M.A.R.T. Status didn't do any disk corrective actions: only measures exceeding certain values. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T. Looks like newer technologies may also try to do this corrective action you talk about. I always thought (Re)Formatting a drive, zeroing out data, did the bad sector mapping out, but only during the formatting process. But that destroys all user data. Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [Thread Closed] Re: White MacBook Purchase?
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: Apologies to both fabian and technophobe. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! I've lost one harddrive and now the main harddrive won't boot!
On Mar 20, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Charles Davis wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Dan wrote: That's re-initializing a drive. You cannot reformat modern drives. The process of zeroing it -- writing zeros to each sector on the drive causes the hardware's bad block replacement mechanism to trigger as needed. What isn't being said here, is whether the 'bad block' mechanism is operational when zeroing at the partition level, or only when the complete hard disk is being 'zeroed'. Good point. I've always assumed partitions were being treated like a separate volume, and was being re-mapped. Gurus? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! I've lost one harddrive and now the main harddrive won't boot!
On Mar 20, 2009, at 8:06 PM, insightinmind wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 7:12 PM, Charles Davis wrote: On Mar 20, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Dan wrote: That's re-initializing a drive. You cannot reformat modern drives. The process of zeroing it -- writing zeros to each sector on the drive causes the hardware's bad block replacement mechanism to trigger as needed. What isn't being said here, is whether the 'bad block' mechanism is operational when zeroing at the partition level, or only when the complete hard disk is being 'zeroed'. Good point. I've always assumed partitions were being treated like a separate volume, and was being re-mapped. That's the way I'd like it to be, which means that the 'Bad Blocks' routines probably only work when Zeroing the complete Hard Disk. Chuck D. Gurus? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! I've lost one harddrive and now the main harddrive won't boot!
On Mar 20, 2009, at 8:15 PM, Charles Davis wrote: Please note, I'm talking about the 'Write Zeros' operation, NOT just 'Erasing' ---[ Which is just Zeroing out the directory data, not elimination the 'bit patterns' on the platter surface.] Same meaning here ... sometimes called Secure Erase Zeroing or something. Zeroes get written, and bad sectors get mapped out ... hopefully for Partitions, too. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! I've lost one harddrive and now the main harddrive won't boot!
At 7:12 PM -0400 3/20/2009, Charles Davis wrote: The process of zeroing it -- writing zeros to each sector on the drive causes the hardware's bad block replacement mechanism to trigger as needed. What isn't being said here, is whether the 'bad block' mechanism is operational when zeroing at the partition level, or only when the complete hard disk is being 'zeroed'. The bad block replacement mechanism is in the controller. It is *always* active. Concepts such as partitions are logical things created as data on the drive, maintained WITHIN your computer - in the driver, file sytem, and OS *software*. The mechanism doesn't care about them, ever. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Help! I've lost one harddrive and now the main harddrive won't boot!
At 8:11 PM -0400 3/20/2009, Charles Davis wrote: I've always assumed partitions were being treated like a separate volume, and was being re-mapped. That's the way I'd like it to be, which means that the 'Bad Blocks' routines probably only work when Zeroing the complete Hard Disk. No. The HD has no clue as to any logical set-up created on it by the driver / file system / OS in your computer. IOW, the HD is simply a stream of data blocks, and the controller a server thereof. All the partitions and such are logical constructs created in your computer only. Operations you do - move files around, zero things, etc, are meaningless to the HD's controller. It just sees the individual read and write commands sent to it by the driver. The HD's controller is smart wrt individual data blocks and the physical geometry of the drive *only*. In general (and *highly* simplified),... - A chunk of disk space is reserved for block replacements. - The driver issues logical read or write commands to the controller. The controller buffers things, screws around, etc, and eventually performs physical read or write operations. - The results of a physical read or write operation is checked against some ECC type codes *by the controller*. If the i/o operation, a test is initiated: the block is read and written repeatedly to see if the correct data can be pulled off of it. If the block finally reads ok, life continues. If the block continues to fail then it is mapped out, a replacment block is chosen, and a best-guess of the data is written to it. The trick is... that this all occurs between the controller and the HD mechanism. The computer has no idea it happened unless it asks for status. (that's where the SMART reporting stuff comes in). Iffa it no ask, it stays clueless. Now... We often recommend zero'ing a HD in order to handle stale blocks. The controllers bad block replacement is always active --- but it doesn't see a bad block until it's commanded to actually touch (read or write) that block! Zero'ing touches every block, thus forcing bad block mapping, hopefully before you put critical data there. HTH, - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
iTunes now plays movies - What the ?
iTunes now plays movies - What the ? I nearly fell off my pin head when, to my great surprise, I clicked on a movie, it opened iTunes and played it! What in the world is going on? G4/10.4/iTunes 8.0 the movie kind is *.m4v. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes now plays movies - What the ?
iTunes has been able to play videos for about 2 years now. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: iTunes now plays movies - What the ? I nearly fell off my pin head when, to my great surprise, I clicked on a movie, it opened iTunes and played it! What in the world is going on? G4/10.4/iTunes 8.0 the movie kind is *.m4v. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes now plays movies - What the ?
It sure does, in my Powerbook G4 1 GHz Titanium, OS 10.3.9 --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com Subject: iTunes now plays movies - What the ? To: G3 G5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 6:11 PM iTunes now plays movies - What the ? I nearly fell off my pin head when, to my great surprise, I clicked on a movie, it opened iTunes and played it! What in the world is going on? G4/10.4/iTunes 8.0 the movie kind is *.m4v. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes now plays movies - What the ?
Itunes always played movies, nothing new. Peter M. Sent with my BlackBerry Pearl -Original Message- From: Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:11:06 To: G3 G5 Listg3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: iTunes now plays movies - What the ? iTunes now plays movies - What the ? I nearly fell off my pin head when, to my great surprise, I clicked on a movie, it opened iTunes and played it! What in the world is going on? G4/10.4/iTunes 8.0 the movie kind is *.m4v. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: White MacBook Purchase?
On Mar 20, 11:45 am, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio fluxstrin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 2:25 PM, technophobic_...@comcast.net wrote: The gestapo has spoken. Better tremble. lol Fabian stepped up when others quit over the top posting rule change. They were frustrated over a rule change that made their previous evfforts meaningless. Fabian moderates a bit too seriously at sometimes but at least it beats no moderator at all. I got to give him credit and a certain respect. if I was a moderator I would be napping too much! I have seen a list or two on LEM descend swiftly into anarchy when the nannies nap. It ain't pretty! ;) I myself am pretty offended when people come on a list and push people to go up a notch (or more). Its fair to warn them maybe, but it oftentimes sounds to me like brainwashed commercialism proliferating itself, especially when with truth distortions. But I don't complain because a) its not my job, and b) oftentimes they just push harder (in my real life it happens). I wonder how many people leave the lists because of this without ever saying anything ? (they tell us in business marketing 9 out of 10 will). But don't mind me too much, I'm offended by apple these days almost as much as by intel almost as much as by microsoft. -- On topic: what happens if I try and plug a pair of ordinary speakers into my G4-DA ? I got a submini to mini stereo adapter, but I read on apples support site that apple speakers have a ROM which identifies them to the computer. There they say you shouldn't connect regular speakers, but they do not say it will hurt the computer or the speakers... has anyone tried it ? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: iTunes now plays movies - What the ?
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Jonas Lopez jonaslo...@yahoo.com wrote: iTunes now plays movies - What the ? I nearly fell off my pin head when, to my great surprise, I clicked on a movie, it opened iTunes and played it! What in the world is going on? G4/10.4/iTunes 8.0 the movie kind is *.m4v. __ It has become more of an extension of QT and the capability is more of a branding move to market content and product services. Even porn moves on iTunes these days. Actually that was probably the big money motivator. The adult industry is super huge. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
20-22 monitors: Seeking advice recommendations
My old 17 CRT still works fine, but I'm getting greedy at home for the same convenient screen real estate I have at the office (I often need to display two Word docs at once). I see 22 monitors for $140 that sound pretty good. I am VEEEY price-sensitive, and this is like the sirens singing to me. I also read that one monitor advertised it was Windows Vista-ready and had the drivers for that OS. (Drivers? For a monitor?) This raised a question I never even thought of: are some LCDs incompatible with OS X? Thanks as always, Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 20-22 monitors: Seeking advice recommendations
On Mar 20, 2009, at 9:21 PM, tonycd wrote: My old 17 CRT still works fine, but I'm getting greedy at home for the same convenient screen real estate I have at the office (I often need to display two Word docs at once). I see 22 monitors for $140 that sound pretty good. I am VEEEY price-sensitive, and this is like the sirens singing to me. I also read that one monitor advertised it was Windows Vista-ready and had the drivers for that OS. (Drivers? For a monitor?) More than likely this is color profiles for the monitor. a question I never even thought of: are some LCDs incompatible with OS X? None as far as I know. Whether features such as autorotation work (flipping it from landscape to portrait orientation) is dependent on the vide drivers, not the monitor. You don't mention what computer you have, and what video card you have...there are monitors on the market today that won't work with some of the very old Video cards in the earliest OS X compatible computers. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: 20-22 monitors: Seeking advice recommendations
On Mar 20, 2009, at 11:21 PM, tonycd wrote: My old 17 CRT still works fine, but I'm getting greedy at home for the same convenient screen real estate I have at the office (I often need to display two Word docs at once). I see 22 monitors for $140 that sound pretty good. I am VEEEY price-sensitive, and this is like the sirens singing to me. I also read that one monitor advertised it was Windows Vista-ready and had the drivers for that OS. (Drivers? For a monitor?) This raised a question I never even thought of: are some LCDs incompatible with OS X? Thanks as always, Tony I wouldn't settle for anything less that 1680x1050 resolution. The difference is worth the bucks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
