Mail messages containing eBay links don't work (the links)
Here's a new problem I'm having with Leopard's Mail (10.5.6), and I don't know if it's a problem with Mail or with Safari 3.2.1. When I sell an item on eBay, I get an e-mail from eBay letting me know. In this eBay message is a button labeled Send Invoice that is supposed to take me to an eBay webpage so I can send a bill to the buyer. When Safari is my default browser, I hit that button and instead of going to the webpage, Safari puts up a box that says Safari can't open the page http:// because it's an invalid address. But if I make Firefox my default browser and hit the button, the eBay webpage opens up in Firefox just fine. In fact, Safari can't open ANY Mail message's link to an eBay page. If I get an e-mail from some eBay member asking a question about something I've got up for sale on eBay, there is always a link in the message to the auction page. If Safari is the browser I'm using, clicking on that link brings up the same message that it's an invalid address, while if I use Firefox, it opens the eBay page just fine. So, what could be the problem between Mail and Safari with regard to e- mail links to eBay? Any ideas what I might do to fix it? Many thanks, Tom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Last.fm to charge for streaming (BBC).
In connection with the following news item, I am wondering if anyone knows of a program that will change the IP address in OS X to an address that shows another geographical location, such as the US? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7963812.stm At this time, EU countries either are or are in the process of getting locked out of a number of streaming audio/video services. Cheers, Brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Last.fm to charge for streaming (BBC).
On Mar 30, 2009, at 2:02 AM, Brian Durant wrote: In connection with the following news item, I am wondering if anyone knows of a program that will change the IP address in OS X to an address that shows another geographical location, such as the US? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7963812.stm At this time, EU countries either are or are in the process of getting locked out of a number of streaming audio/video services. You need to find a proxy server within the location you need to be within to receive the stream. There are free proxies, and there are pay for proxies. In this case, you'll need a proxy within the USA, Britain, or Germany. Google Anonymous Proxy Servers with or without quotes for more information. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
How many bookmarks do you have? Are they in folders? Thousands, all in folders, I don't know where one would get a total number One other thing that slows it way down is all the little bookmark icons, whatever they are called. Loading those slows it down too, maybe there is a corrupted one? Called Favicons I believe, but no idea how to tell of a corrupted one, or how to prevent them loading. On a PC, you're supposed to export your bookmarks and settings and create a new profile. This often solves problems in Windoze Firefox, I'm not sure if it applies to Mac Firefox. Hope this helps, Stephen Thanks, guess I'll hold off on that unless a mac guru says it's a good idea Del --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Wireless Cards
Steve, Suggest you check out WiFi Hardware Compatible with Desktop Macs Running OS X http://lowendmac.com/macdan/md09/mac-wifi-desktop.htm, a comprehensive resource for 802.11a/b/g/n hardware compatible with desktop Macs. Without knowing the brand for either of the products you've mentioned, you have to depend on whether you trust the seller's Mac savvy. Dan On Mar 30, 8:02 am, shooby sshoob...@gmail.com wrote: Hi This is the first time for me on this list. I have an old Blue White Mac running sys 10.3.9. It has not been used for over 12 months. I want to set it up in my daughters room and install a wireless card rather than drillilng a hole in the floor to connect with the router (Belkin N Wireless Router). I was looking on eBay and have found several items that may do the job. 1. Airport Extreme Compatible 802.11g Wireless PCI Network Card (54Mbps) for G3, G4 G5 Power Mac 2. After the Mac USB WIRELESS CARD G3 G4 G5 APPLE AIRPORT. G54SL+ Mac USB Wireless Adapter 802.11 g/b. This product promises a lot but is an after market product (non genuine). Does any one have knowlege of the suitability of these products? Thanks for your thoughts Steve --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail messages containing eBay links don't work (the links)
That is a little odd! I am not on Safari 4 and I can open my ebay links just fine (just tried one). I am using Eudora though so it does sound like it's more of an application specific issue Diane --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Last.fm to charge for streaming (BBC).
On 30-Mar-09, at 3:02 AM, Brian Durant wrote: I am wondering if anyone knows of a program that will change the IP address in OS X to an address that shows another geographical location, such as the US? Try HotSpot Shield, available for Tiger and Leopard: http://www.hotspotshield.com/ - Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Last.fm to charge for streaming (BBC).
Thanks to everyone for the help :-) On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:21 PM, Peter peter1...@gmail.com wrote: Or use an public proxy server from the country you want to be :-) Peter M. Sent with my mobile divice -Original Message- From: Tony Gamble seemybr...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:00:35 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Last.fm to charge for streaming (BBC). On 30-Mar-09, at 3:02 AM, Brian Durant wrote: I am wondering if anyone knows of a program that will change the IP address in OS X to an address that shows another geographical location, such as the US? Try HotSpot Shield, available for Tiger and Leopard: http://www.hotspotshield.com/ - Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Last.fm to charge for streaming (BBC).
Heh... Oh to be sitting on the veranda sipping a cool one (while browsing) at the Village Hotel on Pohnpei where they are Mac friendly. JT (Who will be there on his next birthday!) Peter wrote: Or use an public proxy server from the country you want to be :-) Peter M. Sent with my mobile divice -Original Message- From: Tony Gamble seemybr...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 08:00:35 To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Last.fm to charge for streaming (BBC). On 30-Mar-09, at 3:02 AM, Brian Durant wrote: I am wondering if anyone knows of a program that will change the IP address in OS X to an address that shows another geographical location, such as the US? Try HotSpot Shield, available for Tiger and Leopard: http://www.hotspotshield.com/ - Tony --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail messages containing eBay links don't work (the links)
On Mar 29, 2009, at 11:39 PM, Tom wrote: When Safari is my default browser, I hit that button and instead of going to the webpage, Safari puts up a box that says Safari can't open the page http:// because it's an invalid address. Does it say this exactly or ar you substituting for the actual address? See if the web link is breaking in Mail: stretch the message window out as wide as you can make it and see if the url can be made to fit on one line. Mail has a bad habit of breaking URL's in half...though I'd exoect if you had that problem it would affect both firefox and Safari. Try clearing the Safari caches, too. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OS X Server 10.4 v's OS X Client 10.5 for home server
On Mar 29, 2009, at 3:59 PM, nestamicky wrote: I'd like to find a way to only respond to sections of the OT. I'm trying but I'm not good at it yet. In Thunderbird, in the compose section of the prefs, there's a selection to quote only the selected part of a message. Mail does this by default. I don't have T-bird on my home system, I can check at work. To break up parts of an OP to interleave your message, simply click inside the OP anf hit return a couple of times to open a space. -- Bruce Johnson Wherever you go, there you are B. Banzai, PhD --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail messages containing eBay links don't work (the links)
Have a very careful look for embedded spaces in URLs that get anywhere near Apple's mail application. URLs cannot have spaces in them! They must be encoded with %=20 if they're really needed. The mail APPL uses content type format-flowed with a desp = yes option. That is a fairly new addition to the RFCs and it puts a requirement on the receiving mail client to watch out for space followed by return characters at then ends of lines. That is supposed to indicate that an 80 character line length limit can be treated by a client as text that wraps to window width. What happens with the delsp = yes option is that long URLs lose part of their text in the wrapping process. If you look at the source of the message you might well discover that Apple Mail has dropped a few characters at the end. -- - Stocks are getting pelloreid - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Upgrade to Leopard leaves mailboxes empty
This is a very helpful review of steps I have found for myself to work several times in Erase Install and in migrating to new machines. I offer a few modifications. On Mar 28, 2:16 pm, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote: Since this thread will end up archived somewhere, I thought I'd add another person's solution to this problem of Mail breaking after an OS upgrade, that was sent to me. It's basically what I did myself, but for anyone who needs to be walked through it, here is his solution, step-by-step: 3. If Mail is running, make it stop. Trash the file; /Users/ (yourusername here)/Library/Preferences/com.apple.mail.plist I do not trash this. I set it aside and then copy it into the library where this preference does not yet exist in the new OS. 6. Launch Mail. It will ask you to configure it for the first time. Since it is not on the network, you will need to configure it manually, using the settings you documented in step 1. Don't let it configure itself, because it is not on the network and will not be able to find any servers. My old accounts carried forward with the preferences. You may need to recreate your rules/filters. You are on your own there. Maybe document them in step 1 along with the other documentation you make of your previous setup. I do not use rules, but note Gary D.'s message pointing to the Apple article TS2537. That could have saved me having to retrain the new Mail about Junk. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Firefox memory?
At 3:35 AM -0700 3/30/2009, MnDel wrote: How many bookmarks do you have? Are they in folders? Thousands, all in folders, I don't know where one would get a total number I think you'll find that Firefox (and perhaps most browsers) simply choke on bookmark lists that big. Probably best to do some serious weeding. Think hundreds, not thousands. An app such as BookDog or URL Manager Pro might be helpful. On a PC, you're supposed to export your bookmarks and settings and create a new profile. This often solves problems in Windoze Firefox, I'm not sure if it applies to Mac Firefox. Hope this helps, Stephen Thanks, guess I'll hold off on that unless a mac guru says it's a good idea Try moving your massive bookmark file aside, then launching Firefox. If that fixes the problem then you'll know it's the your bookmarks. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail messages containing eBay links don't work (the links)
At 11:39 PM -0700 3/29/2009, Tom wrote: Here's a new problem I'm having with Leopard's Mail (10.5.6), and I don't know if it's a problem with Mail or with Safari 3.2.1. When I sell an item on eBay, I get an e-mail from eBay letting me know. In this eBay message is a button labeled Send Invoice that is supposed to take me to an eBay webpage so I can send a bill to the buyer. When Safari is my default browser, I hit that button and instead of going to the webpage, Safari puts up a box that says Safari can't open the page http:// because it's an invalid address. Good! Get OUT of the habit of using links in emails! Phish-type emails are getting better and better - harder to distinguish from the real thing. If make it a habit of NEVER clicking on emailed links, then you won't have to worry about them. Long ago, eBay created my.ebay - a nice tailorable *secure* page that serves as a centralized buying and selling console. ALL the links / buttons you need are on that page. Use it. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 DA wireless woes
At 9:50 AM -0700 3/27/2009, Dana Collins wrote: Dig. Audio G4/733MHz w/ 1 Gig of RAM, OS 9.2.2 Actiontec MI424 Rev C On first boot of the DA's newly installed OS, Airport immediately recognized the ESSID of the router, and let me easily plug in the WEP password, set up a keychain, and launched connection with no problem - signal is clear as a bell. The Airport app shows that the unit is online for the network At 6:06 PM -0400 3/28/2009, Dana Collins wrote: Actiontec MI424 Rev C So... I went across the room to my G5 (running Leopard and connected via Ethernet) and read the following off of the Network SP panel: IP Address: 192.168.1.8 Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 Router: 192.168.1.1 DNS Server: 192.168.1.1 Search Domains: Home The screen snap shows these settings for your G5, but it's the wired Ethernet interface that's given preference. Does it show those same settings when you view the wireless settings? And does it work when you make that the preferred interface (either in software or by unplugging the cat5 cable from the G5)?. I then went to the TCP/IP control panel on the G4 DA (again, running OS 9.2.2), made sure to select Connect via to Airport, Configure manually, and copied the above information to the requisite fields, like so: IP Address: 192.168.1.x (x=another no. other than 8) Subnet mask: 255.255.255.0 Router: 192.168.1.1 Name server address (I presume this was DNS Server) Search Domains: Home I then saved this configuration and attempted to run an internet connection (after I turned Airport on, of course), as mentioned earlier, this was no go. Ok, if that's right for your wireless network. After saving the settings under OS 9, you have to wait up to 5 minutes for it to complete the faux DHCP cycle. Or reboot... - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Mail messages containing eBay links don't work (the links)
On Mar 30, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Dan wrote: Good! Get OUT of the habit of using links in emails! Phish-type emails are getting better and better - harder to distinguish from the real thing. If make it a habit of NEVER clicking on emailed links, then you won't have to worry about them. You can also look at these links by viewing the message as raw source in Mail. I remember the very first time I got a paypal spoof e-mail. I looked at the actual URL the link was going to, and it was obviously not the URL of paypal. Even though the look of the e-mail did a fine job of mimicking a paypal e-mail, the link was a dead giveaway. BTW, you should forward those things to sp...@paypal.com and sp...@ebay.com. (I'm sure other big companies have a similar place for reporting them.) Joe == Joe the Juggler 4148 Wyoming St. St. Louis, MO 63116 (314) 771-3243 http://joethejuggler.com == --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
VOIP Apps
What do you use for Voice Over IP? Open Source and Free are preferred. What gets your signal out? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
