Re: MDD G4 and GeForce 6200 - compatible?
On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:36 PM, Dana Collins wrote: > > > > > On 4/19/09 8:25 PM, insightinmind of billycarm...@verizon.net sent > >> On Apr 19, 2009, at 7:57 PM, Adam Vaughn wrote: >> >>> >>> Hello everyone. I recently picked up a Dual 1.0GHz MDD G4, which is >>> currently equipped with a (stock?) Radeon 9000 card. Since it's >>> equipped with Leopard, I'd like to upgrade the video card. I have a >>> 933MHz QS2002 which I've upgraded with a flashed GeForce 6200 card. >>> Some sources I've checked say that the 6200 doesn't work at all with >>> an MDD G4, while others say that it does, if the proper pin >>> connections are cut (which it appears is the case, since the card >>> works just fine in my QS2002). Which one is correct? If not, why >>> wouldn't the 6200 work in my MDD? And finally, would it hurt to try >>> the 6200 in the MDD anyway? As usual, thanks in advance. >>> >> >> According to Mactracker, these were the stock video cards for the >> MDDs: >> NVIDIA GeForce4 MX, GeForce4 Ti, or ATI Radeon 9000 Pro >> >> Don't know a lot about flashed cards, but they are sometimes the ones >> you have to tape out certain connectors to get them to work. I'd be >> careful about just trying it, without a guru's blessing ... >> >> Bill Connelly > > Hi Adam and Bill, > I have a flashed GeForce 6200 (256Mb model) in my QuickSilver 2002 > and an > identical unit in my 1.6GHz G5. The QS one is indeed taped at the > proper > contacts. The tape came off of the second one, making it > incompatible with a > 4x AGP, but worked fine for the 8x G5. Nice cards for a reasonable > rate. > Best regards, > Dana Thanks for the info so far. My main concern in all of this is hoping that either video card or computer wouldn't be fried if I were to install the 6200 in the MDD. The 6200 was purchased on eBay from mac_geniuses, who sold it as modified for use in Macs; it works perfectly in the QS2002 when running OS X, but the resolution for OS 9 must be set from OS X (a rather finicky process). All the eBay ads I've seen for Mac-type 6200s state explicitly that they work in neither MDD or FW800 G4s; however, LowEndMac states that they "will work with all AGP Macs" once modified; otherwise, it won't boot. Quite confusing, really... -Adam -- Adam Vaughn Collector of old computers, video game systems, radios and other electronic equipment... Visit my page at http://www.electronixandmore.com/adam/index.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MDD G4 and GeForce 6200 - compatible?
On 4/19/09 8:25 PM, insightinmind of billycarm...@verizon.net sent > On Apr 19, 2009, at 7:57 PM, Adam Vaughn wrote: > >> >> Hello everyone. I recently picked up a Dual 1.0GHz MDD G4, which is >> currently equipped with a (stock?) Radeon 9000 card. Since it's >> equipped with Leopard, I'd like to upgrade the video card. I have a >> 933MHz QS2002 which I've upgraded with a flashed GeForce 6200 card. >> Some sources I've checked say that the 6200 doesn't work at all with >> an MDD G4, while others say that it does, if the proper pin >> connections are cut (which it appears is the case, since the card >> works just fine in my QS2002). Which one is correct? If not, why >> wouldn't the 6200 work in my MDD? And finally, would it hurt to try >> the 6200 in the MDD anyway? As usual, thanks in advance. >> > > According to Mactracker, these were the stock video cards for the MDDs: > NVIDIA GeForce4 MX, GeForce4 Ti, or ATI Radeon 9000 Pro > > Don't know a lot about flashed cards, but they are sometimes the ones > you have to tape out certain connectors to get them to work. I'd be > careful about just trying it, without a guru's blessing ... > > Bill Connelly Hi Adam and Bill, I have a flashed GeForce 6200 (256Mb model) in my QuickSilver 2002 and an identical unit in my 1.6GHz G5. The QS one is indeed taped at the proper contacts. The tape came off of the second one, making it incompatible with a 4x AGP, but worked fine for the 8x G5. Nice cards for a reasonable rate. Best regards, Dana --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: MDD G4 and GeForce 6200 - compatible?
On Apr 19, 2009, at 7:57 PM, Adam Vaughn wrote: > > Hello everyone. I recently picked up a Dual 1.0GHz MDD G4, which is > currently equipped with a (stock?) Radeon 9000 card. Since it's > equipped with Leopard, I'd like to upgrade the video card. I have a > 933MHz QS2002 which I've upgraded with a flashed GeForce 6200 card. > Some sources I've checked say that the 6200 doesn't work at all with > an MDD G4, while others say that it does, if the proper pin > connections are cut (which it appears is the case, since the card > works just fine in my QS2002). Which one is correct? If not, why > wouldn't the 6200 work in my MDD? And finally, would it hurt to try > the 6200 in the MDD anyway? As usual, thanks in advance. > According to Mactracker, these were the stock video cards for the MDDs: NVIDIA GeForce4 MX, GeForce4 Ti, or ATI Radeon 9000 Pro Don't know a lot about flashed cards, but they are sometimes the ones you have to tape out certain connectors to get them to work. I'd be careful about just trying it, without a guru's blessing ... Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
MDD G4 and GeForce 6200 - compatible?
Hello everyone. I recently picked up a Dual 1.0GHz MDD G4, which is currently equipped with a (stock?) Radeon 9000 card. Since it's equipped with Leopard, I'd like to upgrade the video card. I have a 933MHz QS2002 which I've upgraded with a flashed GeForce 6200 card. Some sources I've checked say that the 6200 doesn't work at all with an MDD G4, while others say that it does, if the proper pin connections are cut (which it appears is the case, since the card works just fine in my QS2002). Which one is correct? If not, why wouldn't the 6200 work in my MDD? And finally, would it hurt to try the 6200 in the MDD anyway? As usual, thanks in advance! -Adam -- Adam Vaughn Collector of old computers, video game systems, radios and other electronic equipment... Visit my page at http://www.electronixandmore.com/adam/index.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OT: Accidental malware download?
On Apr 19, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: > > On Apr 18, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Wendell Mendell wrote: > >> iMovie was modified at 12:17. In the Receipts folder are 2 >> subfolders with the same modification time. The folder db has one >> file, . The folder bom has no files with the folder >> modification time, but the most recent file in it is >> , dated April 9. (Today is April 17.) > > Check your software update prefs...this is a legit Apple update, that > it looks like your system just got and applied. If the 'INstall > important updates automatically' box is checked, this would account > for the behavior. Also, in the same prefs pane, you can see the > up[date name and date and time it was installed. Updates via Software > Update are very difficult, if not nearly impossible to spoof, so if it > shows there it's legit. > > -- > Bruce Johnson > U of Az College of Pharmacy > Information Technology Group > Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs > Thanks, Bruce. Everything checked out in the Software Update preferences in the System Preferences pane. My mind is now at ease. Wendell --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: OT: Accidental malware download?
On Apr 18, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Wendell Mendell wrote: > iMovie was modified at 12:17. In the Receipts folder are 2 > subfolders with the same modification time. The folder db has one > file, . The folder bom has no files with the folder > modification time, but the most recent file in it is > , dated April 9. (Today is April 17.) Check your software update prefs...this is a legit Apple update, that it looks like your system just got and applied. If the 'INstall important updates automatically' box is checked, this would account for the behavior. Also, in the same prefs pane, you can see the up[date name and date and time it was installed. Updates via Software Update are very difficult, if not nearly impossible to spoof, so if it shows there it's legit. -- Bruce Johnson U of Az College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions don't have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Banned
At 11:12 AM -0400 4/19/2009, Tim Gochnour wrote: > >Now, your post is way off topic for this list. Only if you exclude that pesky one-off rule. >There is an appropriate way to ask questions of the moderators by going to the >LEM page at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/index.shtml and emailing >the list mom and moderators. > >This topic is now flagged as off-topic and closed Or you could just give the guy the assistance he needs instead of slamming the door in his face. >Tim >LEM list moderator - Dan. - LEM list annoyance. - No peopling allowed! by Order of the King! -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: "SAFE BOOT" Questions
At 9:52 AM -0700 4/19/2009, darkey wrote: > >Can anyone Please clear up the Correct "safe boot" procedure for me?" >Once I get to the log in screen {displaying safe boot in red}, do I >immediately restart right then and there - using the log in window >restart option? > - OR - do i log in, let the desktop load and THEN restart??? I can't >seem to clarify this anywhere. Depends on what you need. By the time the login window has displayed, the cache rebuild etc has been completed. If that was your purpose for going into Safe Mode, then just hit the restart button. >Can/should this be used a maintenance procedure; if so, how often? "this" Depends on what you mean. Safe Mode can be used to fix a lot of things. No, booting into Safe Mode is not really a maintenance procedure. You'd be better off using real maintenance tools, such as as Disk Utility and OnyX. >Should it be performed to {somehow?} supplement - or substitute - >running disk utility repair from the OS install disc? No. Repairing the engine has nothing to do with retreading your tires. >Should OS upgrades should be installed in safe boot? No. But if after installing one of Apple's packages you find you cannot boot, try booting in Safe Mode. Often the problem is that Apple didn't clear and rebuild the caches correctly. - Dan. -- - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
"SAFE BOOT" Questions
Greetings! Can anyone Please clear up the Correct "safe boot" procedure for me?" Once I get to the log in screen {displaying safe boot in red}, do I immediately restart right then and there - using the log in window restart option? - OR - do i log in, let the desktop load and THEN restart??? I can't seem to clarify this anywhere. Can/should this be used a maintenance procedure; if so, how often? Should it be performed to {somehow?} supplement - or substitute - running disk utility repair from the OS install disc? Should OS upgrades should be installed in safe boot? {i've never done that - and never had a problem going back to OS X 10.0 - but just read it on macfixit} The units I'm using are a G4 dp450; 10.4.11 and MDD 1.25dp fw800 10.5.6. Many, many thanks - as always! chris in ny --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Banned
On Apr 19, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Norm Rowe wrote: > > Why am I banned from the LEM list? I just tried to post an old mac > mouse > and after 3 attempts and not meeting the list nanny's criteria I am > banned. Why? I think this is very unfair. If I'm not reinstated who do > go to to resolve this? > Norm Norm... THREE attempts? The swap list rules are VERY easy to understand and are for the protection of the members. I am not sure how it would take someone more than once to understand that they need to put their name and address on the post... The list moderators have to continue to weed out the bad apples on every list and if someone can't follow rules or treat others with courtesy, they get bumped. There are so many swap list members that sorting through them all to keep people from getting ripped off is tough. Now, your post is way off topic for this list. There is an appropriate way to ask questions of the moderators by going to the LEM page at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/index.shtml and emailing the list mom and moderators. This topic is now flagged as off-topic and closed Tim LEM list moderator --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Banned
On Apr 19, 2009, at 7:01 AM, Norm Rowe wrote: > Why am I banned from the LEM list? I just tried to post an old mac > mouse > and after 3 attempts and not meeting the list nanny's criteria I am > banned. Why? I think this is very unfair. If I'm not reinstated who do > go to to resolve this? LEM operates numerous e-mail lists, none of which is considered as "the LEM list." Each list has nannies who assist the list owner in making sure that list rules are followed. Since you are not banned from the G3-5 List, please do not discuss your problem with another list here. Contact the appropriate list nanny privately. Fabian Fang G3-5 List Nanny --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Banned
Good luck. I had a disagreement with a seller a few months back. He contacted the nanny. During the long, long time it took the nanny to respond we worked out our differences to mutual satisfaction. Yet when the nanny finally got around to it, I ended up being banned. When I ask for how long, I never got a reply. So, I assume it's for life. On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Norm Rowe wrote: > > Why am I banned from the LEM list? I just tried to post an old mac > mouse > and after 3 attempts and not meeting the list nanny's criteria I am > banned. Why? I think this is very unfair. If I'm not reinstated who do > go to to resolve this? > Norm > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Banned
Why am I banned from the LEM list? I just tried to post an old mac mouse and after 3 attempts and not meeting the list nanny's criteria I am banned. Why? I think this is very unfair. If I'm not reinstated who do go to to resolve this? Norm --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---