Re: [G3-5]Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On 5/28/09 3:45 PM, dc at dbc...@verizon.net wrote: I ran Monolingual to get rid of all unneeded languages and also the G3 Intel architechtures Where can I get this program? Is it free? Does it work under 10.4? I¹m asking this because sometimes I feel a little squeezed on a 7.7GB partition (I¹ve got a Beige G3). -- MaGioZal. http://twitter.com/magiozal/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On May 29, 2009, at 4:29 AM, MaGioZal wrote: Where can I get this program? Is it free? Does it work under 10.4? http://monolingual.sourceforge.net/ I’m asking this because sometimes I feel a little squeezed on a 7.7GB partition (I’ve got a Beige G3). You don't need to be squeezed onto that tiny 7.7GB partition. Clone your System over to your largest partition outside the 1st 8GB partition, but still within the 128GB limit. If your HD is larger that 128GB you can also use the whole thing, but you need to either use the Intech Hi-Cap extension or do the LBA48 open firmware hack. Once you've cloned your OS onto the larger partition, use XPostFacto 4.0 and select the larger partition OS at the boot System, and any partition within the 1st 8 GB as the helper disk and you can now boot from the big partition. The helper disk partition can be small, as little as perhaps 100MB, but if you don't have a small dedicated helper partition, you can also just use your 7.7GB partition as the helper. You should always boot the largest available partition. My Beige has a 160GB HD partitioned as 1GB, 7GB (both within the 1st 8GB), 112GB (at the EXACT 128GB limit of 131,072MB) and the remaining 22GB outside the 128GB limit. I have OS 9.1 on the 1GB partition which I also use as the helper to boot OS 10.4.11 from the largest 112GB partition. I also have OS 10.4.11 on the 7GB partition so I can boot OS X directly without a helper as a just-in-case repair volume that has DiskWarrior and other utilities for fixing the large partition should anything go wrong. I use the 22GB as storage space only. For many years I booted from Firewire external HDs on the Beige using the XPF Helper Disk boot method. This has the advantage of being able to use large HDs without the 1st 8GB limit. I booted a 250GB Firewire external HD regularly until I needed it for my Mini. If you need a larger HD to boot from, I'd recommend booting from an external Firewire HD using the Helper Disk boot method. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Safari 4 bloat
On 5/28/09 11:36 PM, Kris Tilford at ktilfo...@cox.net wrote: On my main computer (G5), Safari 4 has over 2.6 GB of webpage preview cache files (meaning, it's saving every single page viewed as long as there's room). This is wrong, let's hope it's a beta known issue they're going to repair? It's because of those things that I still use the 3.x version...;-) -- MaGioZal. http://magiozal.blogspot.com/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
What are 2 key things to know about installing a new disk in 12 inch Powerbook?
Dear Collective Wisdom, Tomorrow is new disk day for my G4 1.5 GHz 12 (M9690LL/A) Powerbook, 1.25 GB RAM. I've studied the ifixit guide (I qualify to undertake this mission under the adventure clause); the new 160 GB Seagate drive just arrived from OWC. My question: what are the 2 most important things your experience tells me to watch for/do/not do? Thanks! Anne --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
G4 upgrade opinions welcomed
Hey folks, I am planning on upgrading a recently acquired G4 Gigabit PM. I'm looking at either the Sonnet Encore 1.6GHz or Newer Tech's MAXPower 1.6 GHz. I need opinions on which to get. First does anyone know if both are 7447 models? I know the MAXPower is (it says so on the site), but is the Encore also 7447 or 7448? Secondly is there a difference at all between the two? I'm leaning towards the Sonnet because it is slightly cheaper. Thanks! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: What are 2 key things to know about installing a new disk in 12 inch Powerbook?
Anne Brataas wrote: Dear Collective Wisdom, Tomorrow is new disk day for my G4 1.5 GHz 12 (M9690LL/A) Powerbook, 1.25 GB RAM. I've studied the ifixit guide (I qualify to undertake this mission under the adventure clause); the new 160 GB Seagate drive just arrived from OWC. My question: what are the 2 most important things your experience tells me to watch for/do/not do? Keep track of the screws. I learned to print out the fixit guide and tape the screws into position on the page as I disassembled it. Then as I reassembled it I ran my hand over the page to make sure no screws were left on them. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: UPS's
On May 28, 4:10 pm, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: Someone on another list mentioned these:http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-SurgeCube-Surge-Protector-1-Outlet/dp/B0... Any experience with them or similar? View its specifications. Where does it list each type of surge and protection from that surge? It does not. Many claim it will absorb surges. Ok. It is 885 joules. That means 295 joules and never more than 590 joules absorb a surge that is hundreds of thousands of joules. It provides nothing to absorb all that energy. So where does a surge get absorbed? Either inside that protector (destructively), or maybe inside adjacent appliances. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground (also applies to the UPS). Either a surge is diverted short to and absorb harmlessly in earth. Or that surge is inside the building looking for earth ground destructively via electronics. Stop looking for a magic box. There is none. Either a surge is harmlessly connected to earth and does not enter the building. Or the surge dissipated its energy inside the building. You are having an electrician come. He can install protector for everything in the house at the breaker box and upgrade what provides protection - breaker box earthing. You were taught this in elementary school science. Lightning found a more conductive path to earth - wooden church steeples. To protect steeples, Franklin simple diverted lightning to earth via a lightning rod. Again, what provided the protection? Earth ground. Did the lightning rod magically block or absorb that surge? Of course not. Protection is always about diverting surges to not enter a building. Even wood and concrete are conductors. Surge protection means an earthing connection is more conductive than anything else. A better protector connects short to earth - ie 'less than 10 feet'. No sharp wire bends, No splices, etc. Where does that Belkin device claim protection in its numeric specs? 1) It has no dedicated connection to earth. 2) Manufacturer avoids all discussion about earthing. Two factors that identify ineffective protectors. Your Belkin unit meets both conditions; is that ineffective. Claims to protect from a surge that is typically not destructive. No earth ground means no effective protection. What makes Franklin's lightning rod so effective? Earthing - where surge energy gets absorbed so as to not enter the building. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: [G3-5]Re: Safari 4 bloat
Is this: On May 29, 2009, at 5:57 AM, MaGioZal wrote: Re: [G3-5]Re: Safari 4 bloat the same topic as: Re: Safari 4 bloat ??? Bill Connelly artsite: http://mysite.verizon.net/moonstoneartstudio myspace: http://www.myspace.com/moonstoneartstudio --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 upgrade opinions welcomed
On May 29, 2009, at 4:56 AM, Arnel Tuazon wrote: First does anyone know if both are 7447 models? I know the MAXPower is (it says so on the site), but is the Encore also 7447 or 7448? When I inquired, Freescale's production of G4 chips had been terminated with the 1.4 Ghz chip, which the OEMs (Giga Designs, etcetera) were individually testing and rebranding as 1.5 or 1.6 or whatever their testing showed these 1.4 GHz chips to run at, with stability. http://groups.google.com/group/hq-a + A home for the Hackintosh community. To subscribe to the HQ-A group, send email to hq-a +subscr...@googlegroups.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Updating Max OS X 10.4.11
On May 28, 2009, at 6:35 PM, Len Gerstel wrote: And for those who do not care for tinyurl, here it is via another shortener: http://www.socuteurl.com/popopuppysaur WTF? Hello Kitty URL? X-P -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External HD noy showing up on Desktop
On May 28, 2009, at 8:05 PM, jim wrote: Thanks for your reply... The proper box is checked. If I throw out the com.apple.Finder.plist (I'm guessing that's a file?), will the Finder rebuild it? Jim Yes, it will be in /Users/your user short name/Library/Preferences/ System-wide preferences are in /Library/Preferences Generally any file with a .plist on the end can be safely trashed and the application will create a new, default one the next time the applications starts (the Finder is an application like any other) The biggest exception to this rule is your mail prefs, which will cause your mail accounts to disappear if deleted. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: UPS's
At 05:34 -0700 5/29/09, w_tom wrote: On May 28, 4:10 pm, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: Someone on another list mentioned these:http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-SurgeCube-Surge-Protector-1-Outlet/dp/B0... View its specifications. Where does it list each type of surge and protection from that surge? It does not. Many claim it will absorb surges. Ok. It is 885 joules. That means 295 joules and never more than 590 joules absorb a surge that is hundreds of thousands of joules. and a bunch more about grounding and where energy is dissipated. Analysis: One joule (a unit of energy) is one watt (a unit of power) applied for one second (of time). Power is the rate of delivering energy just as speed is the rate of delivering distance moved. The mechanical equivalent of heat is 4.18 joules = 1 gram.calorie which is the amount of heat required to raise one gram of water one degree Celsius. 885 joules would thus raise a one gram metal oxide varistor (MOV) about 200 degrees. That's about right for a specification written to be distributed by an advertising agency. 295 joules would probably be more realistic unless the MOV actually weighs more than a gram. The real problem with MOVs is that they will only handle a few hundred such pulses in their lifetime. Some manufacturers add a green LED to their boxes as an indicator that the MOV has been damaged too many times. Those 270 volt pulses mentioned before are less than a millisecond long and are not easily converted to absorbed energy in joules but you can get an idea by imagining 270 volts applied to a 120 volt , 100 watt, incandescent lamp for a thousandth of a second. I get about 0.4 joules for that. As for grounding to earth: If the destination computer uses an isolated power system - like a typical ATX switcher - that is not directly connected to earth, common mode voltage surges that raise both power lines together are insignificant. It's not like a church steeple which is grounded at the bottom to the moist earth. It's when the computer is also connected to a telephone line, a TV antenna, or a TV cable that a path for common mode power spikes to ground can be a problem. Even with the best of protection it's possible to break down those isolation transformers on your 10 base T Ethernet connections. We really know about that out here on the the front range of the Rocky Mountains. It's easy to see a kilovolt spike between grounds at each end of the house that is caused by lightning returning through the soil. Exam questions: How much water can you bring to a boil by applying a hundred thousand joules? How many volts does it take to produce a 1 centimeter spark when you shuffle your feet over the floor and touch a grounded lamp? -- -- A fair tax is one that you pay but I don't -- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 upgrade opinions welcomed
I've had great experiences with Sonnet upgrades. Their hardware, software and tech support is first class. Having said that, are you sure you want to invest $200 in such an outdated machine? You can probably find an Apple DP 500 MHz processor for around $50 and, if you max out the RAM, you'll run 10.4.11 nicely. Save up for an Intel Mac; the 1.83 core2duo's are going for around $400 now. On May 29, 7:56 am, Arnel Tuazon a.tua...@gmail.com wrote: I am planning on upgrading a recently acquired G4 Gigabit PM. I'm looking at either the Sonnet Encore 1.6GHz or Newer Tech's MAXPower 1.6 GHz. I need opinions on which to get. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: UPS's
On May 28, 4:10 pm, diane di...@mathermotorsports.com wrote: Someone on another list mentioned these:http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-SurgeCube-Surge-Protector-1-Outlet/dp/B0... Any experience with them or similar? I have several of these. They are okay, have been fine for several years. I consider them to be of minimal capability. One for microwave, one for refrigerator, one used to be for 9 inch TV but not replaced by a six-tap unit replacing the electrical outlet's cover plate. This is in a house that also has a D-Square whole house surge protector mounted in the entrance panel. Al Poulin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 upgrade opinions welcomed
I'd max out the RAM first, then look at CPU replacements. I got a Mercury 1.7 GHZ CPU to replace the 400 GHz CPU in my Sawtooth and it's made the biggest difference. The third thing I would look at would be a newer video card. If the total of the above would come to more than $300, you might want to look at newer Macs. --- On Fri, 5/29/09, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: From: dc dbc...@verizon.net Subject: Re: G4 upgrade opinions welcomed To: G3-5 List g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, May 29, 2009, 2:06 PM I've had great experiences with Sonnet upgrades. Their hardware, software and tech support is first class. Having said that, are you sure you want to invest $200 in such an outdated machine? You can probably find an Apple DP 500 MHz processor for around $50 and, if you max out the RAM, you'll run 10.4.11 nicely. Save up for an Intel Mac; the 1.83 core2duo's are going for around $400 now. On May 29, 7:56 am, Arnel Tuazon a.tua...@gmail.com wrote: I am planning on upgrading a recently acquired G4 Gigabit PM. I'm looking at either the Sonnet Encore 1.6GHz or Newer Tech's MAXPower 1.6 GHz. I need opinions on which to get. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: DiskWarrior will not run after Applejack ran
From: Bruce Johnson On May 28, 2009, at 11:32 AM, Jonas Lopez wrote: It has ran for several years with no problems. Select OS9 on the 10.4 disk and start up in nine. Run DW ON THE OS9+10.2.8 partition. Works just fine. When done, change to OS9+10.2 as the start up. Run DW from OS9 on the OS9+10.4 disk. You are extremely lucky. Running an OS 9 directory repair program cam completely screw up an OS X volume. What is one to make of this? Could it be that the DW looks at the bits in the 9 system folder and ignores the rest and the trouble happened to be in the 9 and so no attempt to fix things in the rest was made... I would not trust a 9 repair algorithm on a X setup. dorayme --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: G4 upgrade opinions welcomed
On 29/05/09 2:06 PM, dc dbc...@verizon.net wrote: I've had great experiences with Sonnet upgrades. Their hardware, software and tech support is first class. Having said that, are you sure you want to invest $200 in such an outdated machine? You can probably find an Apple DP 500 MHz processor for around $50 and, if you max out the RAM, you'll run 10.4.11 nicely. Save up for an Intel Mac; the 1.83 core2duo's are going for around $400 now. Yeah, but the G4 Gigabit was free. Also the fact that it's NOT an Intel is why I want to update before investing in an Intel Mac. I'm a bit sentimental when it comes to PPC Macs. All my Macs save for the IIsi and my wife's Macbook are PPC. When I do switch to the Intel Macs I'm going for a new Mac Pro. I just bought a 256MB nVidia AGP card. I going upgrade the RAM to a min. of 1GB (not sure if I'll go higher). I want to run Tiger on it for my daughter, but still be able to run OS 9 for the educational software I still have collecting dust. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: UPS's
On May 29, 12:56 pm, Doug McNutt dougl...@macnauchtan.com wrote: Analysis: ... The real problem with MOVs is that they will only handle a few hundred such pulses in their lifetime. Some manufacturers add a green LED to their boxes as an indicator that the MOV has been damaged too many times. Numerous pulses applied to an MOV only degrade it. A degraded MOV is not reported by that LED. That LED indicates the MOV was subjected to a surge massively in excess of what the manufacturer defines acceptable. A failed MOV also has its voltage changed by 10% (as stated in manufacturer datasheets). MOV is still functional and that light does not report the degradation. That light can only report a completely unacceptable failure - a one time massive current in excess of the manufacturer's Absolute Maximum Parameters. LED can only report one type of failure because the MOV was grossly undersized. Using same datasheets, a 270 volt spike on a 200 joule MOV for 1 millisecond will degrade that MOV in two pulses. Obviously that 270 volts spike will be less when conducted through that MOV. 270 volts for 1 millisecond through a light bulb is not a valid analysis. Your analysis must put that voltage across the MOV. Since current limit for that 270 volt spike is not known, then insufficient information exists to perform an analysis. This worst case analysis for a 200 joules MOV can only withstand two 270 volts spikes - from manufacturer datasheets. Surges are current - not voltage events. Voltage will rise as necessary to conduct that current. Two kilovolt isolation in a network card or power supply is not exceeded if that current has some other path to earth. Just like the church steeple. Lightning voltage (and therefore energy dissipation) is minimal on a church steeple if conducted to earth by Franklin's invention. 'Whole house' protector also does diverting to earth for a computer's power supply. UPS does not. ATX power supply (like all appliances) has internal protection. But that protection can be overwhelmed (voltage will increase) IF surge current is not diverted to earth. A dike cannot stop a flood. But a dike works if the flood has a downriver path. Same principle applies to a computer's power supply when downriver is a properly earthed 'whole house' protector. Bottom line: a protector is only as effective as its earth ground. Which is why all facilities that cannot suffer damage connect protectors short to an even better earthing electrode. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Nanny Note] Re: What are 2 key things to know about installing a new disk in 12 inch Powerbook?
On May 29, 2009, at 2:24 PM, Kyle Hansen wrote: Anne Brataas wrote: Tomorrow is new disk day for my G4 1.5 GHz 12 (M9690LL/A) Powerbook, 1.25 GB RAM. I've studied the ifixit guide (I qualify to undertake this mission under the adventure clause); the new 160 GB Seagate drive just arrived from OWC. My question: what are the 2 most important things your experience tells me to watch for/do/not do? I use an ice cube tray. And with that particular model remember the little screws in the battery bay and don't force anything. The top case is fussy, especially when putting it back together. Make sure you are grounded and no pets are around. Especially cats. I have heard from people many times over how a cat brushed up their leg and jumped up on the desk. While you have it open use a can of compressed air to clean it out. The OP realized that she posted her inquiry to the wrong list, has unsubscribed from the G3-5 List, and already reposted to the G4 Book List, thus can no longer read your responses here. Those who have further sage advice, beyond screw organization, may wish to pursue her new thread on the G4 Book List. Please be reminded that LEM operates four hardware lists on Macintosh laptops, PowerBooks, G Books, G4 Book, MacBook, all with numerous experienced members: http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/index.shtml Messages about laptop problems may well receive more appropriate answers on those lists. Fabian Fang G3-5 List Nanny --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: External HD noy showing up on Desktop
Bruce Johnson wrote: On May 28, 2009, at 8:05 PM, jim wrote: Thanks for your reply... The proper box is checked. If I throw out the com.apple.Finder.plist (I'm guessing that's a file?), will the Finder rebuild it? Jim Yes, it will be in /Users/your user short name/Library/Preferences/ System-wide preferences are in /Library/Preferences Generally any file with a .plist on the end can be safely trashed and the application will create a new, default one the next time the applications starts (the Finder is an application like any other) The biggest exception to this rule is your mail prefs, which will cause your mail accounts to disappear if deleted. Which is why when I don't know the details of the .plist file I trash it but don't empty the trash until I've tested everything out. If it's a more complicated set of files I'll create a folder on the desktop and duplicate the folder hierarchy in it move the config (and other) files in there. This way I know where to put the files back if needed. -- Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed Low End Mac's G3-5 List, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to g3-5-list-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list?hl=en Low End Mac RSS feed at feed://lowendmac.com/feed.xml -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
