Re: Install script for fresh OS install?
Hey this links are pretty cool!!! I wish I knew that when I was redoing those computers... I always used the user name as Apple Computer and set up the password as whatever OS I used like: jaguar or tiger so I could download all the updates and software without any trouble, then the user could just go in and change the password if they wanted... Thanks for that info!!! Cool!!! -Original Message- From: Dana Collins dlcatft...@verizon.net Sent: Aug 3, 2010 1:11 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Install script for fresh OS install? On 8/3/10 1:07 AM, Dana Collins of dlcatft...@verizon.net sent On Aug 2, 10:38 pm, DLC dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: Greetings all, I hope my description is accurate to the point that it rings a bell. I do remember this being briefly chatted up on this list, but I can't come up with the correct syntax to register a winning query. Here goes: etc I seem to recall a little utility script that one runs to make this so, or a start-up preference that needs deleting. Does this make sense, or ring a bell with anyone? If so, let me know. Thanks in advance for any input. Best regards, Dana On 8/2/10 11:58 PM, JoeTaxpayer of joetaxpaye...@gmail.com sent That will happen on its own, with a new install. I just did some drive swaps, and wanted to made a new one the main OS drive, so I started from scratch. Big welcome screen and all. Hi Joe, Thanks for the response. Yes, I know that, a fresh install provides the welcome procedure. I just wanted the new user to experience the same thing after I had finished with the updates. Maybe not..? Thanks again, Dana Ah, I think THIS was what I was thinking of: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2009072008431183 And this: http://ksbarnt.com/Clean_Install_App/Clean_Install_App.html Regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Monitor Question
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:46 PM, admin oneluc...@mac.com wrote: How do you do that? I always wondered why one monitor couldn't work for all uses. Thanks. It's not difficult. I have a KVM switch set up to allow me to share the monitor between multiple CPUs. One of the CPUs has an ATSC tuner in it, allowing me to watch TV on the same monitor They also have digital converter boxes with VGA output. Unfortunately they are rare and relatively expensive. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Install script for fresh OS install?
On Aug 2, 2010, at 7:38 PM, DLC wrote: Greetings all, I hope my description is accurate to the point that it rings a bell. I do remember this being briefly chatted up on this list, but I can't come up with the correct syntax to register a winning query. Here goes: I am putting a fresh install of OS X (Leopard) on a person's new (to- them) G5. When i am finished with all the updates, I would then like the unit to boot up as if they were the new owner, starting up the Mac for the first time and being asked to set up their account and register with Apple. I seem to recall a little utility script that one runs to make this so, or a start-up preference that needs deleting. Does this make sense, or ring a bell with anyone? If so, let me know. Thanks in advance for any input. Best regards, Dana After the fresh install just power off the machine with the power button and it will boot to the welcome screen. You will then need to do the updades. Or give them the update combo on a DVD or a USB stick. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Install script for fresh OS install?
On Aug 2, 2010, at 11:29 PM, Kris Tilford wrote: On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:11 AM, Dana Collins wrote: Ah, I think THIS was what I was thinking of: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2009072008431183 And this: http://ksbarnt.com/Clean_Install_App/Clean_Install_App.html It's admirable when people solve their own problems, but this is a solution in search of a problem in my opinion. I'd ask the new ~user what short name they wanted for their Home folder, assuming they'd want their real name as the long name, and leave the password blank by hitting the Return key in the password field, and then tell the new ~user to boot the install DVD and use the Change Password from the menu bar. For a little eye-candy and a song, you're creating make-work for the new ~user, and perhaps more work for yourself if they need guidance for the setup. I'd bet the average new ~user ends up with a short name Home folder with the silly default firstlast name because they won't realize that there's no relationship between the long name short name and that both can be anything they wish rather than the suggested default names. I'd like to find a simple application that would change a short name and then self destruct. The methods of changing them are a little PITA but doable, I like to have a generic system that I can CCC to a machine and the personalize. John Carmonne Yorba Linda USA Sent from my MBP -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Xserve q
I used to own a G4 Xserve (which I traded for a G5 PMac) and I used it as a regular desktop computer. Actually my PPC Macs are the only Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC architecture. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:27 AM, TVirkkala multi...@wirkman.com wrote: Hi, Anyone here use an Xserve as a desktop computer? Can it be done? (Previous Mac servers were, usually, just slightly differently configured Macinboxen. Xserves appear different, more strikingly different. What difference does that make, desktop-usage-wise?) Timo V PowerPC G5x2.3GHz MacBook Pro 13 / Workgroup Server 9650 / Power Macintosh 6500 / Power Macintosh 5500/Macintosh SE/30/Macintosh Classic -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9 Apps on G5
It can't boot to OS9, though. Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC architecture. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Ted Treen ted.tr...@btinternet.com wrote: Les wrote: Hi, I just received a PowerPC G5 1.8 DP desktop tower running OS X 10.4.11. I would like to run some old Apps like Hypercard and Final Cut Pro 2.0 on this machine. Do I need to install OS 9? Is this possible? Thanks Yes, 10.4 will support OS9 classic (10.5 won't) so you'll need to instal OS9. Ted -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Apple Mail problem?
Hi All I have a TiBook G4 800 that's got a problem with Apple Mail. I can compose and forward letters but I can't use the reply button. when I select reply I get a blank top of the page where the send button should be. If I use my AOL account all works fine? I have redone my Mail account a lot of times but no cigar. Also the rebuild selection is always greyed out. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda USA From TiBook 800 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
Ok I found this hard drive on ebay for $75 with the shipping: 7200rpm 250GB Maxtor HARD DRIVE Apple Power Mac iMac G4|eMac... Is this a good drive for the money and can I split it into 2 125g partitions??? I have someone else sending me all the details for a simular one for $79.95... I will post that info when I get it... Thanks again everyone!!! -Original Message- From: Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net Sent: Jul 28, 2010 12:27 AM To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! Once again for anyone who doesn't know the computer is G4 Power Mac M5183 tower and keyboard she doesn't have the monitor... On the back it has 1-AGP slot, 4-PCI slots, 2-USB's 2-FireWire 400's, 3 slots for memory (and I already know the max is 1.5g (3-512's) ram... The computer was built around July 2002 it has a 466mhz processor, 896mb (1-128mb/1-256mb/1-512mb), ATI rage 128 pro video card, 30G 5400rpm IBM Deskstar HD (March 2001), Sony CD-RW CRX140E, IOMEGA ZIP 250... She has a HP 23 monitor (pretty new) from the PC she is using now and would like to use this (so she can switch back and forth from Apple tower to PC tower) depending on what she is working on... I already bought a AGP PNY Tech NIVDIA GeForce FX 5200 128mb Video card and an airport card together for $34 ebay, a Pioneer DVR-118LBK DVD/CD Writer for $28 from NewEgg... I'm working on now 2-512mb someone I know is working on getting for me... My biggest question is for the hard drive which way should I go??? She has about $160 left to spend she told me she can go as high as $200 total (but if I could get the rest for less this would be great) She can probably move her work off to a external devise??? This is why I was leaning towards a 128g max 7200rpm HD PATA instead of a SATA... Or would it be better to go with a SATA PCI card and a SATA HD that is a 128g max 7200rpm??? This is where I am stuck??? Also which way would be faster and how much faster??? Thank You everyone very much!!! Rich Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Apple Mail problem?
I have the same problem on my PM g4 sawtooth. Either get an update to the program, delete it an replace it with another copy, or just use time machine to Go back in time using the Leopard copy and everything should work. If all fails like what i said here, i will do some extensive research to help. Ever since i installed the frostwire toolbar on safari, safari had the same problem where it turned all grey. -- From Mark's PM G4 Sawtooth -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: OS 9 Apps on G5
Yeah, like I said there is almost no way you'll be able to get OS 9 to work on a G5. Even if you install on a G4 or a G3 and transplant the HDD to a G5, it still won't boor because a G5 is 64-bit, and OS 9 only has 32 bit code in it. Try it, but no guarantee. Try CCC. -- From Mark's PM G4 Sawtooth -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
The last PATAs I bought were $80 for 500GB. You can create 4 partitions of 125GB. search eBay for [500gb pata] no brackets, and see what's there. For maybe $5 more you'll have twice the space. On Aug 3, 2:41 pm, Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net wrote: Ok I found this hard drive on ebay for $75 with the shipping: 7200rpm 250GB Maxtor HARD DRIVE Apple Power Mac iMac G4|eMac... Is this a good drive for the money and can I split it into 2 125g partitions??? I have someone else sending me all the details for a simular one for $79.95... I will post that info when I get it... Thanks again everyone!!! -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Question
On Aug 2, 10:30 pm, DLC dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: My main question is: which slot of the three is the 8-lane slot? I suspect its the one closest to the CPU, is that correct? Correct, the bottom slot, the one closest to the CPU. Open up the Expansion Slot Utility program and you will see some configuration options. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Install script for fresh OS install?
On 8/3/10 2:29 AM, Kris Tilford of ktilfo...@cox.net sent On Aug 3, 2010, at 12:11 AM, Dana Collins wrote: Ah, I think THIS was what I was thinking of: http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2009072008431183 And this: http://ksbarnt.com/Clean_Install_App/Clean_Install_App.html It's admirable when people solve their own problems, but this is a solution in search of a problem in my opinion. I'd ask the new ~user what short name they wanted for their Home folder, assuming they'd want their real name as the long name, and leave the password blank by hitting the Return key in the password field, and then tell the new ~user to boot the install DVD and use the Change Password from the menu bar. For a little eye-candy and a song, you're creating make-work for the new ~user, and perhaps more work for yourself if they need guidance for the setup. I'd bet the average new ~user ends up with a short name Home folder with the silly default firstlast name because they won't realize that there's no relationship between the long name short name and that both can be anything they wish rather than the suggested default names. Thanks, Kris - point taken. Normally I find out what the new user wants and leave it at that, however this time I was running the risk of not being able to interface with the owner, and wanted to give them this option after I had installed all updates and additional software. Fortunately, the owner chimed in, and all's well. Still, a pretty nifty AppleScript for future use. Best regards, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
Also take a look on eBay at White Label Hard Drives. There are some ATA/APATA still available. Usually, one year warranty but what I like is that this are previously unused, clean, etc. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: G5 Question
On 8/3/10 4:02 PM, dc of dbc...@verizon.net sent On Aug 2, 10:30 pm, DLC dlcatft...@verizon.net wrote: My main question is: which slot of the three is the 8-lane slot? I suspect its the one closest to the CPU, is that correct? Correct, the bottom slot, the one closest to the CPU. Open up the Expansion Slot Utility program and you will see some configuration options. Thanks, DC for the info (and you too Eric) - I've never had a G5 w/PCI-E slots so I did not know what to look for. Nor have I even yet booted it up. So, I presume that this Expansion Slot Utility is an app found in the Utilities folder? Out of curiosity, is this utility installed on the Mac Pros as well? Thanks much, Dana -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Monitor Question
--- On Mon, 8/2/10, Kevin Barth godai@gmail.com wrote: From: Kevin Barth godai@gmail.com The monitors of interest is Hannspree 225DPB available at the local Staples office supply that I could not find the p rating. The advantage is I can pick this one up tomorrow and no lost time. First off, Hannspree is a common, if low-end, brand of hd televisions and video monitors. They aren't unique to Staples. Second, the 225DPB is capable of higher resolution than 1280x720 (the ad on Staples' site says it can do 1920x1080) which means it is either a 1080i or a 1080p. Probably the former, as they would be trumpeting it up in their ads if it were 1080p. Which doesn't make it a bad deal, necessarily. The difference between 1080i and 1080p is likely to be insignificant at that size of monitor, unless you are watching Blu-Ray discs on it. And even then I'm not sure you would notice a difference. The other finalist is a ViewSonic 2260wm from ComputerGeeks. This has the 1080p spec and I know as a long time commercial printer and as a much less qualified graphics artist that ViewSonic has a good track record, I still use one of their old CRT's for personal use that I got from FreeCycle. I have never heard of Hannspree and assume it is some Staples' house brand. I like Viewsonic. I have a 22 viewsonic CRT that I'm still using, more than 10 years after it's date of manufacture. It has never shown a single problem, has beautiful images, and I use it for television viewing as well as hooking up several CPUs. I also have a Hanspree 17 LCD HD display that I use primarily when composing on my electronic keyboard. It's OK. Nothing special, no problems either. It gets the job done, and was cheap. but I don't know that I would necessarily recommend it for commercial work. My reply: Thanks Kevin, I went with the Hannspree 22 mostly because it was an easy, cheap and fast replacement. Like most new monitors the screen images are crisp and clear. No real complaints it will suit my purpose. The only thing difficult was adjusting/calibrating the monitor. Hannspress hides the adjustment button UNDER the monitor frame. The button symbols are pressed on the black plastic and are invisible in my lighting. It really took me too long to get the monitor calibrated for my work. But I did and all is well. Really miss the adjustment buttons on the frame of the old 20 Dell 2005 UltraSharp that died. --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Monitor Question
On Aug 3, 2010, at 5:13 PM, glen wrote: My reply: Thanks Kevin, I went with the Hannspree 22 mostly because it was an easy, cheap and fast replacement. Like most new monitors the screen images are crisp and clear. No real complaints it will suit my purpose. The only thing difficult was adjusting/calibrating the monitor. Hannspress hides the adjustment button UNDER the monitor frame. The button symbols are pressed on the black plastic and are invisible in my lighting. It really took me too long to get the monitor calibrated for my work. But I did and all is well. Really miss the adjustment buttons on the frame of the old 20 Dell 2005 UltraSharp that died. --glen Do you know what went bad? It is most likely either an inverter, caps or the likeliest problem, bulbs burned out. If you want that monitor repaired, I and likely a few others on this list can do them. I have a decent supplier for monitor bulbs, about 10-20 bucks per bulb, depending on the size of the display. 20 inch is likely around the 14 to 15 dollar range per bulb. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
-- Original message -- Subject: Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!! Date:Dienstag 03 August 2010N From:Richard Gerome onecoolka...@earthlink.net To: g3-5-list@googlegroups.com Ok I found this hard drive on ebay for $75 with the shipping: 7200rpm 250GB Maxtor HARD DRIVE Apple Power Mac iMac G4|eMac... Is this a good drive for the money and can I split it into 2 125g partitions??? I have someone else sending me all the details for a simular one for $79.95... I will post that info when I get it... Thanks again everyone!!! Isn't there a prize search engine in the U.S. available? Here in Germany+Austria/Europe we have a nice search site called geizhals.at (.de and .eu respectively). Searching for the cheapest 500 GB PATA drive: Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 500GB (HDP725050GLAT80) for around 60-65 EUR – that would be around 80 to 85 USD at the current rate. When it comes to hard disk drives I have some rules I always follow: 1) *always* buy it _new_ 2) buy it from a store where you will get a replacement if the drive should fail (when it is returned RMA to the manufacturer) 3) HDDs _will fail_ after 5 to 10 years. NEVER BUY USED DRIVES! These are my rules, because I want to keep my files safe – and because of recent personal experiences. I had a couple of HDDs (IDE=PATA, 7 to 12 years old) which all failed one after the other, some completely, others while I was reformating and reinstalling a fresh Mac OS X. The failures ranged from sector read failures (the least problem) to controller hardware failures to physical failures of the drive itself (rare, but happend with one drive). This tells me that these type of storage media only lasts 5 to 10 years and is very likely to fail thereafter. From 10 disks (4 of my own) 9 failed, and only one is still working. The one is 13 years old 30 GB original Apple from a G3 BW and I have a strange feeling every day because I expect it to fail anytime. This surviving drive was used when I got it. (Exception to the rule, so it seems.) On the other hand, a drive will fail within the first year or doesn't fail at all within the already mentioned 5 to 10 years. My advice to you: why not buy a drive at a local computer store? (if the prize is okay…) And one other thing. For the partitions: make one, say 80 to 120 GB (I always use 80 GB, has always been well enough for my applications) for the operating system, and the rest for your individual files. That works well if you use the Open Firmware patch to support LBA-48. And helps to keep things tidy. (who wants to work with more than 2 paritions? seriously, who?) Just remember to put all your files on the second partition (and not in your users folder!). http://4thcode.blogspot.com/2007/12/using-128-gib-or-larger-ata-hard- drives.html Whish you good luck with your project. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Revisited: Re: G4 Power Mac M5183 up grades!!!
Thanks for that info Andreas!!! I was planning on getting a new one... I also have another question can I keep the orig hard drive in there too (is there 2 plugs in the ribbon for them I didn't notice if there was)??? This way she can save stuff on that HD too... I don't know of any Prize Search Engs??? I use ask.com, google.com and yahoo.com and I come up with the same types of websites (ebay always comes up in everyone)... I bought 2 hard rives off someone from ebay for my clamshells and had very good luck with them and her, she had me return the first one with no questions and sent me a new one!!! It was my fault i didn't know it had to be formatted... I am planning on buying this one from her as soon as she gets back to me with the specs on the one for $79.95... I think HD's may be going bad is because of leaving the computer running all the time??? With my experience in knowing how things are made and the way they build them to fail after x-#'s of yrs, I wouldn't expect a HD to last that long but I am suprised that most of them do last that long??? After yrs of spinning and collecting dust and dirt any kind of bearing would ware out... The ones I replaced in my clamshells were not bad they were just too slow, so I cleaned them and sold them on ebay!!! - Ok I found this hard drive on ebay for $75 with the shipping: 7200rpm 250GB Maxtor HARD DRIVE Apple Power Mac iMac G4|eMac... Is this a good drive for the money and can I split it into 2 125g partitions??? I have someone else sending me all the details for a simular one for $79.95... I will post that info when I get it... Thanks again everyone!!! Isn't there a prize search engine in the U.S. available? Here in Germany+Austria/Europe we have a nice search site called geizhals.at (.de and .eu respectively). Searching for the cheapest 500 GB PATA drive: Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 500GB (HDP725050GLAT80) for around 60-65 EUR – that would be around 80 to 85 USD at the current rate. When it comes to hard disk drives I have some rules I always follow: 1) *always* buy it _new_ 2) buy it from a store where you will get a replacement if the drive should fail (when it is returned RMA to the manufacturer) 3) HDDs _will fail_ after 5 to 10 years. NEVER BUY USED DRIVES! These are my rules, because I want to keep my files safe – and because of recent personal experiences. I had a couple of HDDs (IDE=PATA, 7 to 12 years old) which all failed one after the other, some completely, others while I was reformating and reinstalling a fresh Mac OS X. The failures ranged from sector read failures (the least problem) to controller hardware failures to physical failures of the drive itself (rare, but happend with one drive). This tells me that these type of storage media only lasts 5 to 10 years and is very likely to fail thereafter. From 10 disks (4 of my own) 9 failed, and only one is still working. The one is 13 years old 30 GB original Apple from a G3 BW and I have a strange feeling every day because I expect it to fail anytime. This surviving drive was used when I got it. (Exception to the rule, so it seems.) On the other hand, a drive will fail within the first year or doesn't fail at all within the already mentioned 5 to 10 years. My advice to you: why not buy a drive at a local computer store? (if the prize is okay…) And one other thing. For the partitions: make one, say 80 to 120 GB (I always use 80 GB, has always been well enough for my applications) for the operating system, and the rest for your individual files. That works well if you use the Open Firmware patch to support LBA-48. And helps to keep things tidy. (who wants to work with more than 2 paritions? seriously, who?) Just remember to put all your files on the second partition (and not in your users folder!). http://4thcode.blogspot.com/2007/12/using-128-gib-or-larger-ata-hard- drives.html Whish you good luck with your project. Cheers, Andreas aka Mac User #330250 Scars only tell us where we have been, they do not have to dictate where we are going... -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: Monitor Question
Really miss the adjustment buttons on the frame of the old 20 Dell 2005 UltraSharp that died. --glen Do you know what went bad? It is most likely either an inverter, caps or the likeliest problem, bulbs burned out. If you want that monitor repaired, I and likely a few others on this list can do them. I have a decent supplier for monitor bulbs, about 10-20 bucks per bulb, depending on the size of the display. 20 inch is likely around the 14 to 15 dollar range per bulb. The Dell started having a problem with the screen image rolling down (or up depending on your reference). Sort of like the very old CRT TV's that needed the horizontal hold adjusted. I'm talking about 1950's or 60's TV's. Don't know if you are old enough to know what I am talking about. Once the Dell warmed up the problem went away. It got worse last Winter when the room temp was 50-60 F. The rolling was so fast it just a series of thin lines -- no image. Once the monitor warmed up, all was OK. The work around was to set the auto wakeup time for an hour or two before I needed to use the G4 DA the Dell was attached to. Recently the rolling started an hour or two after the monitor warmed up and was stable. This made for a difficult if not impossible to be useful in a work environment -- s time for a new monitor. The new monitor is definitely sharper than aged Dell -- but if a cheap repair is possible I would be willing to give it a try. I could find a very productive use for the old Dell. Thanks for the info --glen -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
all them Apple's?
is there a good software application out there that tells me about all the apple's ever produced? Jeff Engle Kamiah, Idaho 83536 My Mac Information: Power Mac G5 (Early 2005 Model) Dual 2.3ghz 6 gb DDR SDRAM Leopard 10.5.8 (Build 9L31a) Firmtek/Seritek 1V4 (Rom v. 5.1.3) G5-Jive w/3 500gb WD HD's Silicon Image 4-port PCI X eSata Samsung SyncMaster 245bw 24 Apple Wireless Keyboard MC184LL/A Apple Magic Mouse MB829LL/A -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
Re: all them Apple's?
On Aug 3, 2010, at 11:31 PM, Jeffrey Engle wrote: is there a good software application out there that tells me about all the apple's ever produced? MacTracker is fairly comprehensive. -- You received this message because you are a member of G-Group, a group for those using G3, G4, and G5 desktop Macs - with a particular focus on Power Macs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to g3-5-list@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/g3-5-list
