Re: Awesome mod...

[Tina K.]

On 2010/11/01 23:43, Jeff Bequette so eloquently wrote:

Now if we could just squeeze a macbook into a clamshell...


That would be too cool for school! Imagine the reaction you would get 
when you are working on a Tangerene MacBook.


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Re: Awesome mod...

[Jeff Bequette]

On Nov 1, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:





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Jeff Bequette
Now if we could just squeeze a macbook into a clamshell...





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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

[Ralph Green]

On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 12:55 -0700, Al Poulin wrote:
> On Oct 31, 10:15 pm, Dan  wrote:
> >> 
> >
> > In particular, see sections 2.2 and 2.3.
> > "you may not modify, publish, transmit," (etc)_
> 
> My bad, Dan is correct.  Giving the reference URL and title of the
> item is the legal and acceptable method.  Also, it reduces bandwidth
> on the list.
> 
> There remains one question that begs resolution.  I download an
> article as legally authorized.  I cannot legally store it
> electronically.

Al,
  Don't worry about that.  Section 2.3 explicitly gives you permission
to download it for your "personal, non-commercial use".
Good day,
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Re: Awesome mod...

[Ralph Green]

On Mon, 2010-11-01 at 10:45 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote:
> 
> 
Howdy Bruce,
  That is a very nice mod.  I hope he uses the machine often and doesn't
just bring it out to show off.  I would think it could bring a good bit
of daily cheer.  Thanks for sharing.
Ralph

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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

[glen]

- Original Message 

> From: Dan 

> 
> Raise your hand if you  used the link instead of reading the email!  ya right.

Here's my hand. I did not see the article at the end of the email; did see the 
link and went directly to the article. Another click for the ad guys.

I would have been more concerned of taking up too much wordage and wasted 
bandwidth when a link was all that was needed.

But hey, you are right in defending copyright laws, though they are somewhat 
vague and untested. These days someone may end up in the county jail for jay 
walking. So are the times.

Good call, --glen



  

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Re: Calling Apple Script Experts

[Doug McNutt]

At 15:39 -0700 11/1/10, glen wrote:
>- Original Message 
>> From: Jason Brown 
>> I am actually very surprised that I have received 0 responses to this. I 
>>thought  sure that there would be a ton of people that were good with 
>>Applescript. Oh  well, thank you to each of you that read it and tried to 
>>figure 
>>things  out.
>> On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jason Brown wrote:
>> 
>> > I have a  problem that I need some help with. 
>
>The only help I can suggest is to find an Applescript group. Maybe someone on 
>list can suggest a good one. I know they exist from my experience in the 
>graphic 
>arts industry. I remember posts for needs of scripts for a specific needs and 
>know there is a great group or two out there that can help. I don't remember 
>the 
>name of the group(s).  Search? --glen
***

List-Post: 
List-Help: 
List-Subscribe: , 


These folks are quite helpful, especially Apple's Chris Nebel.

Be sure you provide the version of AppleScript you want, or are required, to 
use. The details change with every OS release. It also helps to show what you 
have tried.

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Re: Calling Apple Script Experts

[glen]

- Original Message 
> From: Jason Brown 
>
> I am actually very surprised that I have received 0 responses to this. I 
>thought  sure that there would be a ton of people that were good with 
>Applescript. Oh  well, thank you to each of you that read it and tried to 
>figure 
>things  out.
> 
> On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jason Brown wrote:
> 
> > I have a  problem that I need some help with. 

The only help I can suggest is to find an Applescript group. Maybe someone on 
list can suggest a good one. I know they exist from my experience in the 
graphic 
arts industry. I remember posts for needs of scripts for a specific needs and 
know there is a great group or two out there that can help. I don't remember 
the 
name of the group(s).  Search? --glen


  

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Re: Awesome mod...

[glen]

- Original Message 
> From: Bruce Johnson 

> Subject: Awesome mod...
> 
> 
> 

Super! Saw it on the Vintage List a day or two ago and it blew me away. --glen



  

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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

[Dan]

At 12:55 PM -0700 11/1/2010, Al Poulin wrote:

I download an article as legally authorized.
I cannot legally store it electronically.


If they licensed the copy to you (by explicitly permitting the 
download) then you CAN legally keep it.



immediately and before I can delete it, Time Machine puts it away.
[snip]
So how does the written law get interpreted today?


Yea, the exact status of the backup copy is untested in court, as far 
as I know.



And therein lies the rub over much of the DMCA.  So much of it is 
draconian BS.  Those terms survive because they haven't been tested 
and the average consumer hasn't got the means, legal or financial, to 
do so.


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Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?

[Tina K.]

On 2010/11/01 10:11, t...@io.com so eloquently wrote:

The trick, then, is to find the proper chipset.


This applies to firewire enclosures as well, probably a lot of other 
things too.


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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

[Tina K.]

On 2010/11/01 02:51, Ted Treen so eloquently wrote:

Tina, you must be related to my wife...


If she is astonishingly brilliant and stunningly gorgeous than we just 
might be related. ;-)


Seriously though, great minds think alike!

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Re: Awesome mod...

[Tina K.]

On 2010/11/01 11:45, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote:




That is awesome! I love to see old Mac hardware brought back to life.

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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

[Al Poulin]

On Oct 31, 10:15 pm, Dan  wrote:
>
> It is quite common for publishers to provide mechanisms to let you
> make ONE OFF copies of an article for PERSONAL use.  Doing so does
> not magically make their copyright protections vanish.  ... Think
> about that.  Are you saying that because a book is available in a
> Public Library that it's suddenly ok to steal the book from another
> source?
>
> In this case, the article was ***REPUBLISHED*** *IN FULL* BY THE
> POSTER to thousands of people.  Beyond the copyright violation, there
> is a sleeze factor here.  It was filched from a commercial web site,
> that depends on advertising dollars to survive.  Mass-republishing
> without the ads has ripped them off AND potentially made LEM liable.
>
> 
>
> In particular, see sections 2.2 and 2.3.
> "you may not modify, publish, transmit," (etc)_

My bad, Dan is correct.  Giving the reference URL and title of the
item is the legal and acceptable method.  Also, it reduces bandwidth
on the list.

There remains one question that begs resolution.  I download an
article as legally authorized.  I cannot legally store it
electronically.  But, immediately and before I can delete it, Time
Machine puts it away.  Worse yet, innocent and clueless folks in major
corporations download the same article, and it ends up stored in
corporate servers.  I do not think that the written law has caught up
with such ramifications of evolving technology.  So how does the
written law get interpreted today?

Al Poulin

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Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

[Bill Connelly]

On Nov 1, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Gottick International wrote:

I have an old, unbreakable, Quicksilver nearby. Can I try out a 500  
gig serial ATA disc on that old warhorse?


T


Not unless you have a PATA to SATA adapter or a SATA PCI card installed.

I have a SeriTek/1S2 PCI card in my QS 2002 with a 500GB Seagate SATA  
and it works great.


Adapters are such as these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-SATA-Serial-ATA-IDE-PATA-Bidirectional-Converter-/180368057190?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0#ht_1669wt_962

which I have not tried.

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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

[Dan]

At 9:14 PM +0200 11/1/2010, Baha Ata wrote:

At that point, we are in a position that we cannot share a link!


No, sharing a link, a pointer to the copyrighted content, is 
perfectly legit.  You can even include some quoted excerpts from the 
article, under the Fair Use provisions.  You just cannot republish 
the whole work (without permission)...


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Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

[Kris Tilford]

On Nov 1, 2010, at 2:20 PM, Gottick International wrote:

OK - this drive has jumpers. As had the old one. In a iMac G5. What  
about jumper settings?


On SATA drives the jumpers generally aren't used.


Cable looks fine. Conects well. Can one test it in one way or another?


I've wondered about this, you keep saying "cable" when there are two  
"cables" plural for any SATA HD, one is the data cable, the other is  
the power cable. Is it possible you're not connecting BOTH cables?



Tried it. Found the small button on the keyboard. No luck.


I don't think you reset the SMU using a "small button on the  
keyboard"? Here are instructions:



I have an old, unbreakable, Quicksilver nearby. Can I try out a 500  
gig serial ATA disc on that old warhorse?


Only if you have a PCI SATA card installed, which probably isn't the  
case unless you bought one as an upgrade item.


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Re: Dead Drive? - Group Reply.

[Gottick International]

OK - this drive has jumpers. As had the old one. In a iMac G5. What  
about jumper settings?


OK. That solves that probem. ;-) Any other idea? Can the drive be  
too big for the machine to handle?


Probably not. How about the cable ... is that new? a good one?  
Connected well at both ends ... didn't come loose when the machine  
was shut?


Cable looks fine. Conects well. Can one test it in one way or another?


I would also check to see if the iMac G5 has a SMU you can reset??


Tried it. Found the small button on the keyboard. No luck.

only one of the pins had snapped where the connector sitts on the  
main board but that was enough to stop the drive being seen at all.


The pins on the drive looks as the pins on the old drive. OK. I say,


1) The old drive didn't really have issues. Rather the problem is
someplace else such as a bad SATA cable or a poorly seated connector.
Or maybe even something is wrong on the G5's mainboard. Have you tried
any type of diagnostic program?


What kind of diagnostics cen be used to figure out if the mainboard is  
toast?


Try hooking it up to another computer or hook it up through an  
external case.



I have an old, unbreakable, Quicksilver nearby. Can I try out a 500  
gig serial ATA disc on that old warhorse?


Thnks for all your advice.

A

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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

[Baha Ata]

At that point, we are in a position that we cannot share a link!

2010/11/1 Dan 

> At 10:32 PM -0400 10/31/2010, Chance Reecher wrote:
>
>> At 10:15 PM 10/31/2010, Dan wrote:
>>  >Mass-republishing without the ads has ripped them off
>>
>> I see it a different way. Exactly how many list members do you think
>> would have seen the article had it not been re-posted to the list?
>>
>
> Thousands, if the url was posted.  Just the url.
>
>
>  The post had the link back to the original site, which could and most
>> likely did generate traffic to it.
>>
>
> Raise your hand if you used the link instead of reading the email!  ya
> right.
>
>
>   >AND potentially made LEM liable.
>>
>> If anyone is liable it's Google Groups and/or the OP. LEM itself had
>> no direct involvement.
>>
>
> Google is protected by their size and common carrier type status. LEM, no
> so well protected.  Ziff could hit them with a take-down and lawsuit -- and
> it would cost LEM thousands of dollars to deal with it.
>
>
> At 11:38 AM + 11/1/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:
>
>> And either way( or in any case, a " fair use" argument would be thrown at
>> it.
>>
>
> No.  The "one off" personal copy is covered by Fair Use. Republishing a
> copyrighted work, in full, without the copyright holder's explicit
> permission is NOT Fair Use.
>
>
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Re: Awesome mod...

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> 
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Awesome mod...

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Re: USB 2.0 for a G4 MDD?

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On Oct 31, 3:21 pm, JoeTaxpayer  wrote:
> The card I got WAS OHCI but still not 2.0, despite the website saying
> OHCI.
> The box it came in said "Supports USB 1.1 and USB 2.0 devices at full
> speed" so I don't hold "We Love Macs" 100% responsible. Yet after a
> number of calls and emails, their site isn't clear that this card is
> not really 2.0. The card is made by Macally, Part number UH-241, for
> what it's worth.
> I repeat, buyer beware.

The best thing to do when buying a USB card is identify a chipset
which does what you want it to do and then find a card with that
chipset on it.   This minimizes (but does not completely eliminate)
the possibility of such unfortunate surprises.

The trick, then, is to find the proper chipset.

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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

[Dan]

At 10:32 PM -0400 10/31/2010, Chance Reecher wrote:

At 10:15 PM 10/31/2010, Dan wrote:
 >Mass-republishing without the ads has ripped them off

I see it a different way. Exactly how many list members do you think
would have seen the article had it not been re-posted to the list?


Thousands, if the url was posted.  Just the url.


The post had the link back to the original site, which could and most
likely did generate traffic to it.


Raise your hand if you used the link instead of reading the email!  ya right.


 >AND potentially made LEM liable.

If anyone is liable it's Google Groups and/or the OP. LEM itself had
no direct involvement.


Google is protected by their size and common carrier type status. 
LEM, no so well protected.  Ziff could hit them with a take-down and 
lawsuit -- and it would cost LEM thousands of dollars to deal with it.


At 11:38 AM + 11/1/2010, Wallace Adrian D'Alessio wrote:

And either way( or in any case, a " fair use" argument would be thrown at it.


No.  The "one off" personal copy is covered by Fair Use. 
Republishing a copyrighted work, in full, without the copyright 
holder's explicit permission is NOT Fair Use.


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Re: Calling Apple Script Experts

[Jason Brown]

I am actually very surprised that I have received 0 responses to this. I 
thought sure that there would be a ton of people that were good with 
Applescript. Oh well, thank you to each of you that read it and tried to figure 
things out.

On Oct 28, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Jason Brown wrote:

> I have a problem that I need some help with. I have an apple script that I 
> compile into an application that checks the server it is attempting to 
> connect to and makes sure the drives stay mapped. I will include the script 
> as well as the tag lines of where I obtained the original script that I 
> modified for my purposes for you to look at. The problem that I am having is 
> that as of 10.5 and 10.6, if a server is rebooted or even if the machine is 
> rebooted, there is a chance that it will create a folder with the servers 
> share name. For example on these machines they mount Vol1, Vol2 and 
> Onevision2 shares. If Vol1 and Vol2 get disconnected which are both on the 
> same server, one or both could be mounted as Vol1-1 and Vol2-1 for example 
> because an empty folder of the name of the share gets deposited in /Volumes. 
> I have an idea of how to correct this, but I am unsure as to how exactly it 
> would be best to implement it into the script. I want it as some form of 
> sanity check before it attempts to mount the drive. Check for the folder and 
> delete it and maybe have it check if the drive is mounted under anything but 
> its real name and then unmount it and let the script re-mount it. The line I 
> am looking at implementing, and I hope I have it right is below.
> 
> --
> 
> if (count items) of Vol1 is 0 or ((count items) of Vol1 is 1 and name of item 
> 1 of Vol1 is ".DS_Store") then delete Vol1
> 
> --
> 
> I am uncertain how or where to put this into place with the script and the 
> dismount remount commands I am completely unsure of. Any help or insight is 
> greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. The script is pasted below.
> 
> --
> 
> -- Original script courtesy of Jenny Kortina. Found at:
> -- 
> http://theappleblog.com/2008/05/15/hacktackulous-auto-remount-disconnected-shares/
> --
> -- Script Modifications by Jason Brown, The Birmingham News.
> 
> repeat
>   
>   set intnt to do shell script "ping -c 1 10.50.3.221; echo -n"
>   set paras to number of paragraphs in intnt
>   if paras < 5 then
>   else
>   set serverIP to "afp://10.50.3.221/Vol1"
>   set UserAccount to "sysadmin"
>   set ServerPassword to "password"
>   tell application "Finder"
>   try
>   if disk "Vol1" exists then
>   else
>   with timeout of 5 seconds
>   mount volume serverIP as user 
> name UserAccount with password ServerPassword
>   end timeout
>   end if
>   end try
>   end tell
>   end if
>   
>   set intnt to do shell script "ping -c 1 10.50.3.221; echo -n"
>   set paras to number of paragraphs in intnt
>   if paras < 5 then
>   else
>   set serverIP to "afp://10.50.3.221/Vol2"
>   set UserAccount to "sysadmin"
>   set ServerPassword to "password"
>   tell application "Finder"
>   try
>   if disk "Vol2" exists then
>   else
>   with timeout of 5 seconds
>   mount volume serverIP as user 
> name UserAccount with password ServerPassword
>   end timeout
>   end if
>   end try
>   end tell
>   end if
>   
>   set intnt to do shell script "ping -c 1 10.50.3.8; echo -n"
>   set paras to number of paragraphs in intnt
>   if paras < 5 then
>   else
>   set serverIP to "afp://10.50.3.8/Onevision2"
>   set UserAccount to "sysadmin"
>   set ServerPassword to "password"
>   tell application "Finder"
>   try
>   if disk "Onevision2" exists then
>   else
>   with timeout of 5 seconds
>   mount volume serverIP as user 
> name UserAccount with password ServerPassword
>   end timeout
>   end if
>   end try
>   end tell
>   end if
>   
>   delay 10
>   
> end repeat
> 
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Subject change notice /Copywrite: WAS Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

[JoeTaxpayer]

On Oct 31, 10:15 pm, Dan  wrote:
> At 4:59 PM -0700 10/31/2010, Al Poulin wrote:
When the topic goes off onto another one, however interesting,
shouldn't subject line change?

> >On Oct 31, 2:03 pm, Dan  wrote:
>
> >  > But more importantly -- it is, um, inappropriate to re-post
> >complete copyrighted works without the author's permission.  Was
> >such permission obtained?
>
> >>  Nannies -- If permission was not obtained the pirated data should
> >>be deleted from our archive.
>
> >Further dissemination of copyrighted material is sometimes
> >inappropriate and illegal.  But not in cases such as this.  Three
> >points:
> >The article is attributed to the author and the publisher.
> >The original web page invites "Share This Article."
> >The original web page provides an "E-mail" icon, a "Print" icon, and a
> >"PDF Version" icon.
>
> It is quite common for publishers to provide mechanisms to let you
> make ONE OFF copies of an article for PERSONAL use.  Doing so does
> not magically make their copyright protections vanish.  ... Think
> about that.  Are you saying that because a book is available in a
> Public Library that it's suddenly ok to steal the book from another
> source?
>
> In this case, the article was ***REPUBLISHED*** *IN FULL* BY THE
> POSTER to thousands of people.  Beyond the copyright violation, there
> is a sleeze factor here.  It was filched from a commercial web site,
> that depends on advertising dollars to survive.  Mass-republishing
> without the ads has ripped them off AND potentially made LEM liable.
>
> 
>
> In particular, see sections 2.2 and 2.3.
> "you may not modify, publish, transmit," (etc)_
>
> - Dan.
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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

[Wallace Adrian D'Alessio]

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Chance Reecher  wrote:

> At 10:15 PM 10/31/2010, Dan wrote:
>  >Mass-republishing without the ads has ripped them off
>
> I see it a different way. Exactly how many list members do you think
> would have seen the article had it not been re-posted to the list? The
> post had the link back to the original site, which could and most
> likely did generate traffic to it.
>
> >AND potentially made LEM liable.
>
> If anyone is liable it's Google Groups and/or the OP. LEM itself had
> no direct involvement.
>

And either way( or in any case, a " fair use" argument would be thrown at
it.

In the digital age we are all considered " journalists" .

Online promotion not for profit is not a crime. It is an expectation.
Social networks and hence the internet is rife with it.

And as Barnum said " there are two kinds of publicity, some and none" .

In the digital age hits are money in the bank of some sort.






> Well, there's my .02 on this relatively pathetic issue.
> Chance



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Re: Mac OS X Lion Is a Must-Have: 10 Reasons Why

[Ted Treen]

On Oct 31, 2010, at 2:48 PM, Tina K. wrote:

> On 2010/10/31 12:03, Dan so eloquently wrote:
>> Nice fandom article with no real facts. *shrug*
> 
> Sorry, no OS is a must have for me. Unless it's going to make me breakfast in 
>the morning and then go to work for me while I shop, and clean my house while 
>I 
>sleep I can do just fine without it.
> 
> Tina


Tina, you must be related to my wife...


Ted

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