Re: Which used Mac to buy?

2010-11-14 Thread Jeff Bequette


On Nov 13, 2010, at 5:40 PM, Alex Smith (K4RNT) wrote:


I believe PowerMax has systems in your budget.

www.powermax.com

On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 16:57, Tom tba...@nmia.com wrote:

Thanks much, everybody. Well, you've convinced me that I need to move
up into the Intel world for the sort of work I do, but I think I'll
have to get a tower rather than an iMac or Mini, because I'd like to






Also keep an eye on http://www.cwioutlet.com/


Jeff Bequette






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Re: G5 Dual processors not bad?

2010-11-14 Thread ah...clem
On Nov 12, 11:51 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:

 I got  ASD 2.5.7 and upon booting and selecting the Thermal calibration is 
 says calibration not needed. And It will not allow the initiation of the 
 calibration operation, however the ASD 2.5.8 says not needed but will let me 
 try anyway. So I think that the 2.5.8 may produce a false reading if 
 calibration is not needed. And again the OS and OF passed all two hours 
 of it :-)


what exactly did the ASD report as the specific test failed when it
said the processor needed replaced?


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Re: Blueberry iMac

2010-11-14 Thread Ralph Green
Howdy,
  After reading your message, I am thinking a used Pismo might indeed
make a good bedroom system.  I have two questions.
 1. How quiet is the Pismo?  I have never used one.  Some laptops have
noisy fans, but I don't know about this one.
 2. This one is a long shot.  Do you know how much power it consumes?  I
would hope it draws a lot less than the iMac that started this thread.
I use a Kill a Watt to measure true power consumption on my computers.
You don't happen to have a device like that, do you?
Good day,
Ralph

On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 15:34 -0800, Ashgrove wrote:
 It is not a fast machine by any standard, but
 usable. Mine served as a bedroom iTunes jukebox for years, until it
 was replaced by my Pismo. 

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Re: Blueberry iMac

2010-11-14 Thread Baldassare Guzzo
I have had a Pismo for almost 10 years now.  It is a great machine,  
very reliable.  I put a new 120gb hard drive in it because I needed  
more space.  It is powerful enough for most applications I use and  
for its day.  The 15 inch screen is so nice. My only issue is now it  
needs a new battery and the video quality for some of todays  
applications shows its age.  I dont have  power consumption info but  
my Pismo is quiet.



On Nov 14, 2010, at 2:18 PM, Ralph Green wrote:


Howdy,
  After reading your message, I am thinking a used Pismo might indeed
make a good bedroom system.  I have two questions.
 1. How quiet is the Pismo?  I have never used one.  Some laptops have
noisy fans, but I don't know about this one.
 2. This one is a long shot.  Do you know how much power it  
consumes?  I

would hope it draws a lot less than the iMac that started this thread.
I use a Kill a Watt to measure true power consumption on my  
computers.

You don't happen to have a device like that, do you?
Good day,
Ralph

On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 15:34 -0800, Ashgrove wrote:

It is not a fast machine by any standard, but
usable. Mine served as a bedroom iTunes jukebox for years, until it
was replaced by my Pismo.


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Re: Which used Mac to buy?

2010-11-14 Thread Bruce Johnson


On Nov 13, 2010, at 3:57 PM, Tom wrote:


As to the software issues, what if I got an Intel Mac Pro of some
flavor and just stayed in 10.5 with it, in case there might be
problems with some of my old software in Snow Leopard? I could work my
way up to 10.6 gradually.


10.6 is a no-brainer update for Intel-based Macs; and the performance  
improvement is probably worth it for you, even with the added cost of  
updating Adobe (the Apple apps will run no problem)


Being a technology ignoramus, I don't know one type of Intel Mac Pro
from another; Bruce up above mentions a second generation of them,
and I don't know from this Core Duo/Core 2 duo 32/64 bit processor
stuff.



This was a discussion of iMacs, mot Mac Pros. Mac Pros have has Intel  
Xeon CPU's, not Core CPU's. Considerably different critters,  
performance-wise.



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Re: G5 Dual processors not bad?

2010-11-14 Thread Illirik Smirnov
Off topic, but I filled my coolant system with this oil that doesn't harm
the components inside.
So that when it leaks twice a year the cleanup is easy.
Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC
architecture.


On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:15 AM, ah...clem boneheads...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Nov 12, 11:51 pm, John Carmonne carmo...@aol.com wrote:

  I got  ASD 2.5.7 and upon booting and selecting the Thermal calibration
 is says calibration not needed. And It will not allow the initiation of the
 calibration operation, however the ASD 2.5.8 says not needed but will let me
 try anyway. So I think that the 2.5.8 may produce a false reading if
 calibration is not needed. And again the OS and OF passed all two hours
 of it :-)
 

 what exactly did the ASD report as the specific test failed when it
 said the processor needed replaced?


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Re: G5 Dual processors not bad?

2010-11-14 Thread Andy
 Off topic, but I filled my coolant system with this oil that doesn't harm the
 components inside.

Which oil is that?

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Re: G5 Dual processors not bad?

2010-11-14 Thread Illirik Smirnov
I'm not sure. I got it off of a friend who had some because of his computer
that is literally filled with this oil.
http://www.flixxy.com/mineral-oil-cooled-computer.htm
Sent from a computer running either the SPARC, Itanium, or PowerPC
architecture.


On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Andy andy.the...@gmail.com wrote:

  Off topic, but I filled my coolant system with this oil that doesn't harm
 the components inside.


 Which oil is that?

 Andy

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iTunes EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)

2010-11-14 Thread Cliff Rediger
Tiger on miniG4
itunes 9.2.1

When i try to burn a play list in iTunes
iTunes crashes

error report reads:

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:  KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x7fbda691

Log in as different User: No problem

Google search turns up EXC_BAD_ACCESS problems with almost any app.
so apparently not app specific.

various recommendations including clearing caches, trashing prefs etc.

Advice appreciated.
Cliff

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Re: iTunes EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)

2010-11-14 Thread Cliff Rediger


On Nov 14, 6:49 pm, Cliff Rediger redicl...@yahoo.com wrote:
 error report reads:
 Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
 Codes:      KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x7fbda691

P.S. Consul log reads:

CrashReporter/iTunes.crash.log
iTunes[291]: [WSX] Version of iTunes is 0x9218000 (153190400)
Nov 14 18:26:44 Cliffs-MiniG4 Toast This: pluginFactory\n
Nov 14 18:26:44 Cliffs-MiniG4 Toast This: queryInterface\n
Nov 14 18:27:05 Cliffs-MiniG4 crashdump[292]: iTunes crashed
Nov 14 18:27:05 Cliffs-MiniG4 crashdump[292]: crash report written
to: /Users/cliffrediger/Library/Logs/

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Re: iTunes EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)

2010-11-14 Thread Kris Tilford

On Nov 14, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote:



error report reads:
Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:  KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x7fbda691


P.S. Consul log reads:

CrashReporter/iTunes.crash.log
iTunes[291]: [WSX] Version of iTunes is 0x9218000 (153190400)
Nov 14 18:26:44 Cliffs-MiniG4 Toast This: pluginFactory\n
Nov 14 18:26:44 Cliffs-MiniG4 Toast This: queryInterface\n
Nov 14 18:27:05 Cliffs-MiniG4 crashdump[292]: iTunes crashed
Nov 14 18:27:05 Cliffs-MiniG4 crashdump[292]: crash report written
to: /Users/cliffrediger/Library/Logs/


I think it's a Toast plugin causing the problem.
Why not burn directly within iTunes?
Why not upgrade iTunes to 10.1?

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Re: iTunes EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)

2010-11-14 Thread Cliff Rediger
On Nov 14, 7:57 pm, Kris Tilford ktilfo...@cox.net wrote:
 I think it's a Toast plugin causing the problem.
 Why not burn directly within iTunes?
 Why not upgrade iTunes to 10.1?

I too wondered about this Consul log entry, Kris, since I AM trying to
burn directly from iTunes.
i.e. select playlist / burnplaylist (button at bottom right)

is iTunes 10.1  Tiger compatible?

You know, I haven't burned a CD for awhile so not sure if immediately
previous activity is relevant;
but, for the record...

A friend, who has gone Intel, gave me his 12 PB G4 that he could not
boot after HD replacement.
I got it running and set up a local LAN profile.
Naively (read unthinking) I gave the PB the same user name as my
Mini.
The Mini didn't like that, so I changed the PB name.

Next project was CD burn and all the trouble.

Cliff

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Re: iTunes EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)

2010-11-14 Thread Bruce Johnson

On Nov 14, 2010, at 7:49 PM, Cliff Rediger wrote:

 Tiger on miniG4
 itunes 9.2.1
 
 When i try to burn a play list in iTunes
 iTunes crashes
 
 error report reads:
 
 Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
 Codes:  KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x7fbda691
 
 Log in as different User: No problem

Try a different playlist, see if ti's that particular one? Perhaps one of the 
songs?
 
 Google search turns up EXC_BAD_ACCESS problems with almost any app.
 so apparently not app specific.

This is pretty much the generic crash error: a program tried to access memory 
it's not allowed to and the kernel killed the process.



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